In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.
sovereign citizens and law enforcement
bhale187
Member Posts: 7,798
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_y-gLm9HrwPay attention to the commentary by James Cavanaugh, former BATF agent
He seems to think the BATF was not at fault for what happened at Ruby Ridge and Waco, and doesn't seem to beleive that the Sheriff is the ultimate law enforcement power within a county.
A disturbingly common ideal set amoungst federal agents. [V]
Comments
Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) spew is as bad as any other propaganda. They are insidious and they are subversive to our Republic, to individual liberty and to the Constitution itself.
I didn't watch past the murder of the police, so can't comment on the remainder of the vid.
Over my career, I have had more than my fill of SPLC anti-liberty propaganda and their lefty-collectivist, big collectivist-government supporting crap.
In reading your comments, Ben, I must assume that the video takes the typical SPLC path into demonizing constitution-based beliefs and people and in painting those who oppose liberty as extremists or terrorists, as a whole, whilst portraying as grim hero's those who stand on the battlements of a misunderstood, maligned and benevolent government.
police
politicians
preachers
[:0]
The DA, not the Sheriff.
The DA does not enforce the law, they prosecute alleged offenders. The Sheriff is the highest authority of law enforcement
IIRC, general Law Enforcement Authority resides with the states, not the political sub-divisions of them. Federal Law Enforcement Authority is a whole different animal and is based on Statutory Law, not Common Law which the states enforce.
The only exception I am aware of is the authority of the US Marshal which I believe has the authority to enforce any law of the US & the individual states.
The DA, not the Sheriff.
The Sheriff catches them; the DA decides whether or not to clean them, fry them up and serve them or just toss them back.
No, the DA does enforce laws as well. Over the DA is the State AG. Over the State AG is the AG of the US.
In Illinois there is no DA, but instead an SA. The SA has no law enforcement authority. The Illinois AG has seperate and distinct authority, including some enforcement authority. The US AG also has distinct and seperate authority, the USAG for example has no authority to enforce any Illinois state law, only federal law.
In Illinois the Sheriff is the top law enforcement official, this does vary from state to state, for example in Alaska there are no Sheriffs.
My point is President Obama has shown to be a liar and distribute his propaganda when he claimed the majority of guns brought into Mexico came through the United States. We now know this was a lie promoted by Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder (co-conspirators).
We knew it was a lie. Now we have proof.
The claim by the Obama administration that the threat to America is domestic is equally an absurd lie. We all know it. There is no justification for this hype and propaganda. It's a lie. We all know it.
We knew it with the Mexican gun issue and we know it now.
IIRC, general Law Enforcement Authority resides with the states, not the political sub-divisions of them. Federal Law Enforcement Authority is a whole different animal and is based on Statutory Law, not Common Law which the states enforce.
The only exception I am aware of is the authority of the US Marshal which I believe has the authority to enforce any law of the US & the individual states.
I was a part time Marshal for a few years, and got to know the local US Marshals well. As they explained it to me the only authority they have outside of federal jurisdictions is arrest powers for local warrants.
The 10th says "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The only enforcement powers granted to the fed in the constitution (that immediately come to mind) are for treason, murder, and counterfeiting. So if it's not in the constitution, and the bill of rights says the fed has no power outside of what is delegate in the constitution; how is their existance even constitutionally 'legal'.
Coroner.
That too is state dependant, but I know there are several states in which the coroner is the only person with authority to arrest the Sheriff. In Illinois the coroner is the only one who can arrest the Sheriff, but the Sheriff is the only person the coroner can arrest.
Coroner.
I have heard that before. I know of a case in IL where the coroner called the State Police when the Sheriff's Dept either covered up or participated in a suspected murder. I believe the investigation is still on-going, but a person has been charged in the incident and I doubt it will go much further. Sheriff and Deputies should have been held accountable for what they did.[:(!]
On a related note, Can anyone point me to where any federal law enforcement agency is granted their power?
The 10th says "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The only enforcement powers granted to the fed in the constitution (that immediately come to mind) are for treason, murder, and counterfeiting. So if it's not in the constitution, and the bill of rights says the fed has no power outside of what is delegate in the constitution; how is their existance even constitutionally 'legal'.
Such a post does my heart good, Ben.
An excellent postulation and one that gets down to it.
Certainly it will be ignored, poo-poo'd or passed over by most, since to even contemplate its validity would be to admit the ugly flaw in the desires and beliefs of so many.