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Wish suppresors weren't NFA

mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2014 in General Discussion
I own a pretty good sized piece of property out in the country (26 acres) and I would love to shoot my Ar's out there. I hate to shoot more than pistols due to the noise though. If like some of the ? Scandanavian? countries we were allowed to have suppressors I could shoot all day and keep things quieter out of respect to the folks living close by.

I also hate the thought of having to pay for an NFA trust, 200 tax stamp, and overpriced suppressor just cause Uncle Sam is stupid.
Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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  • D@DD@D Member Posts: 4,407
    edited November -1
    26 acres you say? Make you a couple up & get you one of these to store it in. Just dont forget where you put the thing, it would be a b!1tch finding it again.[;)][:p]

    http://gearhungry.com/2012/08/stump-cooler.html
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  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    Maybe congress should review the New Zealand rules on suppressors and how non-existant any problems result from them.
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  • legearlegear Member Posts: 6,716
    edited November -1
    Somewhat easy to make one yourself.

    And yes $500+ for a mini muffler is nuts.
    Maybe $20 in parts.
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  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Even the British are allowed suppressors. You would think the sheeple would like less noise. But what they want is no noise and no guns anyway. No common sense here in the Untied States of Amerika..
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep, in Finland I had couple. Just go to the the store and get whatever kind you want, back then. Now they will ask your permit to a gun to get one, still pretty easy.

    Suppressors also act as a brake, I like them, over here in USA, I only have one for the 22LR, thinking about getting one more for 7.62, but they are so darn expensive.
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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why not just pay the $200 tax and then build your own?
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  • DieHard4DieHard4 Member Posts: 2,373 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mogley98
    I own a pretty good sized piece of property out in the country (26 acres) and I would love to shoot my Ar's out there. I hate to shoot more than pistols due to the noise though. If like some of the ? Scandanavian? countries we were allowed to have suppressors I could shoot all day and keep things quieter out of respect to the folks living close by.

    I also hate the thought of having to pay for an NFA trust, 200 tax stamp, and overpriced suppressor just cause Uncle Sam is stupid.



    I agree. The reason I still don't have any.
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  • 47studebaker47studebaker Member Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    get your permit and make one, that what I did.
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  • countryfarmercountryfarmer Member Posts: 4,552
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    Why not just pay the $200 tax and then build your own?


    Mark, when I have $200 to spare I intend to do that, just not sure what I want to suppress.
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The folks who make suppressors for a living have at least a masters degree in engineering, plus a lab full of expensive equipment. A lot of time & work goes into making a new model. They have to be made right, or they won't work effectively & they won't last long. Expensive, yes, but worth what they charge.

    Neal
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  • kannoneerkannoneer Member Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I read about one gun writer-Rick Jamison, I believe- who constructed a sound baffle that was ahead of his shooting bench at his range. It was effective, although it was massive. It consisted of junk tires, among other things.
    When I want to test fire a .22 rifle I've been working on in town, I just slip a 2 liter pop bottle over the muzzle. Or for revolvers, I have wrapped it in an old bed sheet. Of course, this is just for test firing, not target practice.
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  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,940 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Contact the seller Belmar Firearms on the auction side.

    He will custom make a can for you, walk you through the paperwork, and you will be shooting in a few months.

    He is a licensed manufacturer and class III dealer and genuinely one of the most interesting people I've ever met.
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  • 47studebaker47studebaker Member Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    Why not just pay the $200 tax and then build your own?



    Still cant hunt with them [:(]


    you can in PA for sure and probably some other states
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  • texaswildmantexaswildman Member Posts: 2,215 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    Why not just pay the $200 tax and then build your own?



    Still cant hunt with them [:(]


    Dennis - as of sept 2012 you can hunt with them in Texas.
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  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I honestly have no idea how to build one, no machinery to turn threads Etc.

    Plus even if I pay the 2 bills don't I have to wait months to get "Permission" to have something that legally I should be able to have anyway?

    I went to the Federal forest range today to test fire the two AR's I just built, guns worked fine but six tables of people slinging rounds down range so fast they don't even aim at anything.
    Takes forever to get clear to go check or pull a target and the idiots were shooting tannerite so close to my target I had holes blown all in it.

    Yeah I really guess I'm going to have to do the NFA trust thing, plunk down the 200 and then another 5-8 hundred? for the can. At least I can swap it out from gun to gun.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I honestly think we're moving in that direction.

    many hunters using AR-type rifles
    many states legalizing silencers for hunting

    Now if we can get our states to cooperate and tell the Feds to back off our guns...


    I don't think that they'll ever be unregulated, but I'd think they'll be less regulated than they are now. Maybe a required NICS check for all transfers (no private sales), 21+ only, etc.

    would be awesome to see them totally unregulated (you know, that constitution thing and all), but doubtful any time soon.
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  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    Georgia passed a law making it legal to hunt with a supressor [^]
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  • carbine100carbine100 Member Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:

    Still cant hunt with them [:(]


    "Can" in North Carolina now!
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  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    recent events on the board says lack of knowledge of the law makes one not responsible for their actions, delete this topic and just make one then claim you know nothing
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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have 10 acres out in the country and I don't give a crap about how much noise I make shooting firearms. Nobody says anything. It's kinda a fair trade, I have to listen to tractors, sprayers, helicopters, combines, and grain dryers all summer, and I never complain.
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  • legearlegear Member Posts: 6,716
    edited November -1
    Just Google homemade suppresor.

    Lots of good ideas.

    Washers in a tube
    Or start with a alum plug and drill baffeles then slide a tube over it.

    Freeze plugs for engines
    Small pulleys

    Lots of ways to do it.
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  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    ....Legal to hunt in Texas with 'em.

    The problem is not the $200 bucks tax stamp,(though that does BITE!) but the fact that one needs the head LEO of your County to sign off on the paperwork...and some of these LEOS or anti-gun Libs (since are VOTED in office not appointed) and will not sign for ANY of the NFA stamps.

    A gun trust can be set up cheaply...but then if the trust makes the purchase...the name of the trust and address of the trust, needs to be engraved on the surpressor, gun, etc...which is crap.

    ATF has said that they were trying to remove the need for chief LEO of a persons County needing to sign off on the tax stamps, no signature required, but as of now, no action in that direction has been taken that Ive heard of...[;)]
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