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Pa Deer Hunters
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The mad behind the deer management farce or the party behind the litigation??
If you can get to HuntingPA.com (outdoor issues) on the internet you can read the whole discussion.
some think it will turn out in favor of the Game Commission others think it opens the door for PETA and anyone else to sue. Something like happened in NJ with the bear hunting ban. There has been some thought that the NJ bear have been crowded to the point they are coming into PA.
USP The Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania, This is their third attempt in court. 1st attempt in 2007 was to stop doe hunting until the herd increased. This attempt is to try to get the Game Commission to justify their game policies to them and if you read the complete lawsuit they ask that the hunting be stopped until the deer reach 20 deer per square mile.
If you can get to HuntingPA on the internet you can read the whole discussion.
some think it will turn out in favor of the Game Commission others think it opens the door for PETA and anyone else to sue. Something like happened in NJ with the bear hunting ban. There has been some thought that the NJ bear have been crowded to the point they are coming into PA.
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USP The Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania, This is their third attempt in court. 1st attempt in 2007 was to stop doe hunting until the herd increased. This attempt is to try to get the Game Commission to justify their game policies to them and if you read the complete lawsuit they ask that the hunting be stopped until the deer reach 20 deer per square mile.
If you can get to HuntingPA.com (outdoor issues) on the internet you can read the whole discussion.
some think it will turn out in favor of the Game Commission others think it opens the door for PETA and anyone else to sue. Something like happened in NJ with the bear hunting ban. There has been some thought that the NJ bear have been crowded to the point they are coming into PA.
Stop doe hunting in PA, why would they do that they got a huge population of deer. I wouldn't be surprised if more deer are hit by vehicles than taken by hunters. They have a minimum antler restriction on how many points on each side a buck can have before you can shoot it. The deer herd in PA. is pretty good just keep sending them 5 point and below bucks over here to Allegany County and we'll take care of em'.
This reminds me of a scene about 4 years ago when the herd reduction started, on the south east side of Black Log valley there is strips of public land with city slicker owned camp lands bordering it. We drove by their main camp and it looked like RV hell, musta been 40-50 RVs parked maybe in a one acrea area and the cars and pickups was lined up on the road for a mile in each direction. These guys (I witnessed this because I got caught in the middle of it) went to the top of the south mountain on public ground and lined up what looked like an endless line of drivers, they pushed this ground down off the mountain, thru the valley and back up onto the camp owned ground walking over top of hunters (me included) who was hunting the state ground, hollering and banging scaring the deer and shoved every deer to the camp grounds, any deer that tried to get back thru the line was shot and left to lay untill the drive was over. Every deer that ran into hunters got shot including sublegal bucks. When we went past the camp area that evening after they was done driving for the day there was 10 pickups full of deer and uncounted numbers of deer hanging on makeshift meat poles around these campers. This type of hunting is not just in one spot, these greedy SOBs come into this part of the state because the state parks allow private permanant camps and they hammer the deer like this year after year. These are the same people you will find on Hunting PA forums and how dare anyone question their style of hunting!!!
I don't fully agree with the USP but something needs to change, they have taken the leashes off of those who will shoot any deer that moves and it needs to stop.
quote:Originally posted by 47studebaker
USP The Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania, This is their third attempt in court. 1st attempt in 2007 was to stop doe hunting until the herd increased. This attempt is to try to get the Game Commission to justify their game policies to them and if you read the complete lawsuit they ask that the hunting be stopped until the deer reach 20 deer per square mile.
If you can get to HuntingPA.com (outdoor issues) on the internet you can read the whole discussion.
some think it will turn out in favor of the Game Commission others think it opens the door for PETA and anyone else to sue. Something like happened in NJ with the bear hunting ban. There has been some thought that the NJ bear have been crowded to the point they are coming into PA.
Stop doe hunting in PA, why would they do that they got a huge population of deer. I wouldn't be surprised if more deer are hit by vehicles than taken by hunters. They have a minimum antler restriction on how many points on each side a buck can have before you can shoot it. The deer herd in PA. is pretty good just keep sending them 5 point and below bucks over here to Allegany County and we'll take care of em'.
This is almost 2 years old but PA tops the chart ...
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Deer-Vehicle Collisions on the Rise State Farmr Reports 6% Increase in Claims
Bloomington, Illinois, October 17, 2006 -- Cars colliding with deer on America's roads continues to be a dangerous and costly problem. An estimated 10,000 more collisions occurred this year. To make matters worse for drivers, collision repair costs are also on the rise.
The most recent State Farm claims data shows that deer-related vehicle collisions have risen almost 6% from the last deer season. State Farm policy holders were involved in 192,877 deer-related collisions compared to 182,458 from the previous year, based on estimated submitted claims. From July 1, 2005 through June 30, 2006 average property damage cost was $2800, up $300 from the previous year.
According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety there are an estimated 1.5 million deer-vehicle collisions annually in the United States, causing more than 150 fatalities and $1.1 billion in property damage.
These collisions become more frequent during the fall and winter due to the deer migration and mating season. This season usually occurs from October through December. Coupled with the facts that deer populations are growing and deer habitat is being displaced by urban sprawl makes for a deadly combination for both deer and motorists.
Certain states experience more collisions with deer than others. According to State Farm's annual claim statistics, the states with the highest number of accidents involving deer between July 1, 2005 and June 30, 2006 were:
1. Pennsylvania
2. Michigan
3. Illinois
4. Ohio
5. Georgia
6. Virginia
7. Minnesota
8. Texas
9. Indiana
10. South Carolina
The top ten ranked deer collision states account for 51% of all deer collision claims filed by State Farm policy holders. Drivers in these states, and all others, can avoid becoming involved in one of these costly and potentially deadly deer-vehicle collisions that take place across the United States each year by taking a number of precautions.
There are a number of precautions motorists can take to help prevent accidents with deer. Drivers wishing to avoid vehicle-deer collisions should:
* Be aware of posted deer crossing signs. These signs are placed in known active deer crossing areas.
* Be aware that deer are most active during the evening, between 6 and 9 p.m.
* At night, use high-beam headlamps as much as possible to illuminate the sides of the road where deer can linger.
* Be aware that deer often move in packs - if you see one deer, there is a good chance several more are just a few yards behind.
* Do not rely on car-mounted "deer whistles." Studies have shown deer are not affected by this deterrence method.
* If a collision with a deer seems inevitable, it may be best not to swerve. The risk of personal injury is greatly increased by swerving, which can place you in the path of oncoming vehicles or may cause you to lose control of your vehicle.
"While research has revealed several innovative ways to deter deer from entering the roadways and alerting drivers to the dangers of deer in the area, there will always remain a constant danger of deer-vehicle collisions," said Melissa Miles, senior research analyst for State Farm . "Undoubtedly, the best way to avoid deer-vehicle collisions is through attentive driving behavior."
These simple steps can help motorists avoid becoming involved in deer-vehicle collisions. For more automotive safety tips and information about State Farm, visit the News and Events Center at www.statefarm.com.