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Aren't Mexicans AWESOME? (C&P)

swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
edited October 2010 in General Discussion
Kid's birthday party turns into brawl

By Jennifer Baker jbaker@enquirer.com September 28, 2010

ELMWOOD PLACE - A large, beer-soaked melee broke out at a toddler's birthday party early Tuesday in this small Hamilton County suburb, hospitalizing two men and prompting police from several agencies to respond.

"It was an unbelievable scene, the amount of blood and broken glass," said Elmwood Place Police Chief William Peskin.

About 30 children witnessed the 1 a.m. brawl among 75 people at Elmwood Eagles Hall, 5633 Vine St.

None of the youngsters were injured, Peskin said.

The father of the 3-year-old birthday girl - Ramon Marcelo-Hernandez, 26, of Norwood - was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct while intoxicated.

Punches and beer bottles were thrown after a dispute that began earlier Monday among two men - a woman's boyfriend and her ex-husband - came to a head at the birthday party for a 3-year-old.

When police arrived, some 150 people were still gathered and about half of them were participating in the melee, Peskin said.

Countless beer bottles were hurled, including ones that cut a man's eye and injured a second victim's head, neck and chest, he said.

More than 20 police officers from jurisdictions such as Cincinnati and St. Bernard swarmed the scene to restore order.

Police notified Hamilton County Job and Family Services, which is now investigating, Peskin said.

A total of 15 people were injured, including five who went to University Hospital, Peskin said. Four people were treated for cuts that required stitches and then released. One man underwent eye surgery from a stab wound from a broken beer bottle, the chief said. Doctors are doing tests to check for possible brain damage.

An investigation continues. More arrests are expected.

"The whole party was Hispanic, so we're having language barriers and they are being very uncooperative," Peskin said.

A police officer who speaks Spanish was summoned from Wyoming to assist.

Elmwood Eagles, a fraternal organization, rented the hall out for the party, Peskin said. Their members were not involved in the brawl.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100928/NEWS010701/309280014/Kid-s-birthday-party-turns-into-brawl
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This is in Cincinnati, OH.

How far away from the border is that?

How many of these upstanding "citizens" are legal do you think?

Comments

  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sounds like a University block party!! What a nightmare
  • tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Around Southern Middle Tennessee, Mexicans are pretty quiet. They don't seem to commit as many serious crimes as whites or especially blacks, but they do raise a lot of Hell among themselves.

    Maybe it's the language barrier. I mean, how do you get mad at someone you can't understand or vice versa? Middle fingers only express so much, and the reply is pretty standard.

    Anyhow, driving without insurance, license, registration is the big number one. After that it's mayhem within their own little community.

    That's what this seems to have been: a fight in a herd of baffalo...or a pack of rats. Take your pick.
  • JorgeJorge Member Posts: 10,656 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by swampgut
    Kid's birthday party turns into brawl

    By Jennifer Baker jbaker@enquirer.com September 28, 2010

    ELMWOOD PLACE - A large, beer-soaked melee broke out at a toddler's birthday party early Tuesday in this small Hamilton County suburb, hospitalizing two men and prompting police from several agencies to respond.

    "It was an unbelievable scene, the amount of blood and broken glass," said Elmwood Place Police Chief William Peskin.

    About 30 children witnessed the 1 a.m. brawl among 75 people at Elmwood Eagles Hall, 5633 Vine St.

    None of the youngsters were injured, Peskin said.

    The father of the 3-year-old birthday girl - Bubba Lee - 26, of Norwood - was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct while intoxicated.

    Punches and beer bottles were thrown after a dispute that began earlier Monday among two men - a woman's boyfriend and her ex-husband - came to a head at the birthday party for a 3-year-old.

    When police arrived, some 150 people were still gathered and about half of them were participating in the melee, Peskin said.

    Countless beer bottles were hurled, including ones that cut a man's eye and injured a second victim's head, neck and chest, he said.

    More than 20 police officers from jurisdictions such as Cincinnati and St. Bernard swarmed the scene to restore order.

    Police notified Hamilton County Job and Family Services, which is now investigating, Peskin said.

    A total of 15 people were injured, including five who went to University Hospital, Peskin said. Four people were treated for cuts that required stitches and then released. One man underwent eye surgery from a stab wound from a broken beer bottle, the chief said. Doctors are doing tests to check for possible brain damage.

    An investigation continues. More arrests are expected.

    "The whole party was white low class rural so we're having language barriers and they are being very uncooperative," Peskin said.

    A police officer who speaks Redneck was summoned from Wyoming to assist.

    Elmwood Eagles, a fraternal organization, rented the hall out for the party, Peskin said. Their members were not involved in the brawl.

    http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100928/NEWS010701/309280014/Kid-s-birthday-party-turns-into-brawl
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    This is in Cincinnati, OH.

    How far away from the border is that?

    How many of these upstanding "citizens" are legal do you think?



    There! Fixed it for you! [^]
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    Crap like this is pretty common at Mexican parties, weddings, dances, etc. That's why I never volunteer to work them.
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the city where I grew up and started my career as a cop there was a large hall owned by the "Nights of Colombus", much like the Elmwood Eagles in this story.

    The hall was regularly rented out for MEXICAN wedding receptions on weekends. About 75% of the time the reception ended with a brawl and on some occasions we got there while the brawl was still going and had to break it up and arrest some folks.

    On one occasion one of our officers was trying to subdue a brawler and get him cuffed when his lady friend started screaming at the officer calling him a "PIG" over and over. Finally the officer, having had enough, said to her "What did you call me?" .... She said "I called you a PIG".... His reply was "Oh, thats OK, for a moment there I thought you called me a MEXICAN".
  • CA sucksCA sucks Member Posts: 4,310
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    sounds like a University block party!! What a nightmare


    What sort of Universities have you been going to?

    Sure, countless beer bottles were hurled at ones I went to, but to see how far one could throw, and were not directed at people.

    And there were never more than 2 or three people injured, from a gith that was max 3v3 or 1v1v4/2v2v4(the 4 being there to break it up), or something like that, with no medical treatment necessary.

    Nothing anything like:
    "some 150 people were still gathered and about half of them were participating in the melee"

    Although I suspect this was an exaggeration... a rough estimate of 75 people "participating in the melee", ie 75 combatants, and only 15 injured? Only 5 requiring hospitalization?
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    It is likely, that since they could not communicate in AMERICAN, that they were all felon wet-backs, who should have all been deported with extreme force.

    The "illegal" in illegal alien, means felon for those who just don't seem to "get it".
  • tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Isn't it ironic that a self-proclaimed doctor who should know better changes the post to insult rural whites?

    After all, Puerto Ricans have been treated like second class citizens by their government since the Spanish American War. Southern rural whites have been treated that way since the Civil War. They've got more in common than PRs and Mexicans.

    Anyone with half an education should know that.

    Hey, Jorge, Mexicans aren't Puerto Ricans, they aren't American citizens, and most of them aren't even here legally.

    The only thing they have in common with you is a language.

    And by the way Jorge, if it had been rednecks instead of raggedy-assed Mexicans, the body count would have been a heck of a lot higher; most of them good ole boys have been packing heat since they started working for a living...around the age of eight.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CA sucks
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    sounds like a University block party!! What a nightmare


    What sort of Universities have you been going to?

    Sure, countless beer bottles were hurled at ones I went to, but to see how far one could throw, and were not directed at people.

    And there were never more than 2 or three people injured, from a gith that was max 3v3 or 1v1v4/2v2v4(the 4 being there to break it up), or something like that, with no medical treatment necessary.

    Nothing anything like:
    "some 150 people were still gathered and about half of them were participating in the melee"

    Although I suspect this was an exaggeration... a rough estimate of 75 people "participating in the melee", ie 75 combatants, and only 15 injured? Only 5 requiring hospitalization?
    U of O Last Friday night


    quote:EUGENE, Ore. - Police in the Oregon college town of Eugene used tear gas to disperse about a crowd of 400 people who threw bottles at officers, broke car windows, and tore down street signs in a residential neighborhood.

    Police say no injuries were reported, but two people were arrested on charges stemming from the riot late Friday.

    Eugene is the home of the University of Oregon. Officers say college students often rent large homes in the area with basements that can hold several hundred people.

    Police say they called in 50 officers from three other agencies to assist them in dispersing the crowd. Twenty-four-year-old Odin Erickson faces rioting, interfering with police and criminal mischief counts; 19-year-old Derek Brown was charged with disorderly conduct.

    Police chief Pete Kerns calls the incident "disappointing."
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,637 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Welcome to my country!
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    I have long thought that most, not all, whites were better than most in controlling their primitive instincts such as anger and rage. But that's just me and what I have observed MANY times, NOT ALL times.
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Heck, the best fights are at Mexican Weddings! There's this dance where the Bride dances with everybody at the wedding so they can sneak a peso/dollar bill into her cleavage or elsewhere. Most fights start when some guys' wife sees him pawing the bride; the Grooms' so ca-ca faced, he rarely knows what's going on till morning-and by then, it's too late!
  • tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    I have long thought that most, not all, whites were better than most in controlling their primitive instincts such as anger and rage. But that's just me and what I have observed MANY times, NOT ALL times.
    Used to be, if only for the white American citizens who had a generation or two in the US. However, with the coming of racial equality and integration, the failings and weaknesses of the other societies are being forced upon the white race. Thank you ACLU and the rest of the socialists in America.

    Diversity is not good. In fact, it's a f***ing disaster for our country. Talk to a high school kid now, and you will hear black jargon. Guess what? They have adopted a lot of black values, too. Drop out of high school. Who needs an education if they're on welfare. Have a bunch of illegitimate babies. You gets more welfare with each kid. Strut around with your baggy shorts falling off your *, It's the cool thing, dude.

    All those European countries that liberal * point to as examples of progressive civilization are almost exclusively white, one-language societies. In any of them where there is a significant population of "other," there are problems.

    Liberals point to the British healthcare system and tell us that infant mortality is half the American level because of socialized medicine. No way. The mortality rates are lower because Britain is almost totally white.

    In those countries where the Muslim plague is creeping in, crime and violence are increasing, national budgets are going to Hell, and national pride and honor is disintegrating. Health statistics are also on the decline.

    Look at Germany. Before East Germany became their greatest money sink, they were importing Portuguese workers to perform the scut work. Unlike our universally corrupt politicians, the Germans at least had sense enough to limit how long a Portuguese worker could stay, and they were not allowed to become citizens.

    They experienced a marked increase in crime and violence due in part to these workers. Now, Europe is being invaded by Muslims who are trying to Sharia-ize every country they infest.

    We've even got Muslims in NYC who think that the US should be Sharia compliant. That's not the same thing as the few Jewish communities where Jewish law applies to the members of the community. The Muslims want to subject everyone to their brutal, primitive laws.

    No, I don't believe that integration is necessarily good, no matter what. In fact, it is generally bad unless the minority being integrated is at least educated and instilled with a system of values and morality.
  • texdottexdot Member Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any get together for weddings or birthdays regardless of age like in the original story are common events. I see it every weekend in the papers. Nothing new.
  • chollagardenschollagardens Member Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    toddler's birthday party

    1 a.m.

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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    I have long thought that most, not all, whites were better than most in controlling their primitive instincts such as anger and rage. But that's just me and what I have observed MANY times, NOT ALL times.
    Used to be, if only for the white American citizens who had a generation or two in the US. However, with the coming of racial equality and integration, the failings and weaknesses of the other societies are being forced upon the white race. Thank you ACLU and the rest of the socialists in America.

    Diversity is not good. In fact, it's a f***ing disaster for our country. Talk to a high school kid now, and you will hear black jargon. Guess what? They have adopted a lot of black values, too. Drop out of high school. Who needs an education if they're on welfare. Have a bunch of illegitimate babies. You gets more welfare with each kid. Strut around with your baggy shorts falling off your *, It's the cool thing, dude.

    All those European countries that liberal * point to as examples of progressive civilization are almost exclusively white, one-language societies. In any of them where there is a significant population of "other," there are problems.

    Liberals point to the British healthcare system and tell us that infant mortality is half the American level because of socialized medicine. No way. The mortality rates are lower because Britain is almost totally white.

    In those countries where the Muslim plague is creeping in, crime and violence are increasing, national budgets are going to Hell, and national pride and honor is disintegrating. Health statistics are also on the decline.

    Look at Germany. Before East Germany became their greatest money sink, they were importing Portuguese workers to perform the scut work. Unlike our universally corrupt politicians, the Germans at least had sense enough to limit how long a Portuguese worker could stay, and they were not allowed to become citizens.

    They experienced a marked increase in crime and violence due in part to these workers. Now, Europe is being invaded by Muslims who are trying to Sharia-ize every country they infest.

    We've even got Muslims in NYC who think that the US should be Sharia compliant. That's not the same thing as the few Jewish communities where Jewish law applies to the members of the community. The Muslims want to subject everyone to their brutal, primitive laws.

    No, I don't believe that integration is necessarily good, no matter what. In fact, it is generally bad unless the minority being integrated is at least educated and instilled with a system of values and morality.


    Well stated.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Being Illegal, paid 48k a year, and cry abuse and risk being deported
    Priceless...
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  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
    Around Southern Middle Tennessee, Mexicans are pretty quiet. They don't seem to commit as many serious crimes as whites or especially blacks, but they do raise a lot of Hell among themselves.



    Ummm, they do in Nashville.
  • tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tempest
    quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
    Around Southern Middle Tennessee, Mexicans are pretty quiet. They don't seem to commit as many serious crimes as whites or especially blacks, but they do raise a lot of Hell among themselves.



    Ummm, they do in Nashville.
    Raise hell or do the serious crimes? Whatever, Nashville is gradually moving out of Tennessee, if you know what I mean.
  • CA sucksCA sucks Member Posts: 4,310
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
    All those European countries that liberal * point to as examples of progressive civilization are almost exclusively white, one-language societies. In any of them where there is a significant population of "other," there are problems.

    Actually, language in Europe is a mess...
    IMO, Switzerland is about the best country in Europe (hence why I chose here), and the language here.... 4 official languages... WTH?!
    Then they were debating adding a 5th (English)....
    Of course, they are all European languages, that do have some commonality

    Although of European *all* cities, Vienna ranks just slightly above Z?rich (Z?rich is #2), Austria has only 1 official language, but many Austrians also learn Italian, given they border Italy.
  • tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CA sucks
    quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
    All those European countries that liberal * point to as examples of progressive civilization are almost exclusively white, one-language societies. In any of them where there is a significant population of "other," there are problems.

    Actually, language in Europe is a mess...
    IMO, Switzerland is about the best country in Europe (hence why I chose here), and the language here.... 4 official languages... WTH?!
    Then they were debating adding a 5th (English)....
    Of course, they are all European languages, that do have some commonality

    Although of European *all* cities, Vienna ranks just slightly above Z?rich (Z?rich is #2), Austria has only 1 official language, but many Austrians also learn Italian, given they border Italy.
    I had the Northern European countries and the UK in mind.

    Holland, where they have one "official" language, students are required to learn at least two more languages. Most learn English, French, and German. A look at the map will explain why they pick those.
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