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obama birth cert
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this thing looks clean for a 1961
no errors, but mine list the hsopital name.
funny
http://www.politifact.com/media/img/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
no errors, but mine list the hsopital name.
funny
http://www.politifact.com/media/img/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
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That's a fake certificate. Never heard of a certificate of live birth... wth.
girl friend is third generation African, and is
not a negro ( I think I can still use that word)
It's either a fake, or filled out by idiots.
Inserting the word African, rather than Black,or
Negro dates this document far later than 1961.
Never saw African listed as a race, my nephew's
girl friend is third generation African, and is
not a negro ( I think I can still use that word)
It's either a fake, or filled out by idiots.
Inserting the word African, rather than Black,or
Negro dates this document far later than 1961.
BIDEN PROUBLEY MADE IT FOR HIM, [;)]
that guy is some kind of DA [:0]
i think boma picked him thinking he would be safer as no one would want biden as POTUS.
His mother was a natural-born U.S. citizen. As far as I know nobody questions this fact. Under the Constitution, having even one parent who is a citizen makes you a natural born citizen regardless of where you were born. Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen.
He is also over 35 years of age and meets all of the other Constitutional requirements to serve as president.
I really think it's time to move on to something more productive.
I'm not sure why some people continue to be concerned over Obama's birth certificate or question his citizenship.
His mother was a natural-born U.S. citizen. As far as I know nobody questions this fact. Under the Constitution, having even one parent who is a citizen makes you a natural born citizen regardless of where you were born. Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen.
He is also over 35 years of age and meets all of the other Constitutional requirements to serve as president.
I really think it's time to move on to something more productive.
Not true. "Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States"
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presrequire.htm
Some have said the engraving on this one is from her year, not his year....they change the pattern.
This all came out before the Inauguration.
This "revision" "copy" was made in 2001.. not 1961
Yep and with a laser printer.
I'm not sure why some people continue to be concerned over Obama's birth certificate or question his citizenship.
His mother was a natural-born U.S. citizen. As far as I know nobody questions this fact. Under the Constitution, having even one parent who is a citizen makes you a natural born citizen regardless of where you were born. Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen.
He is also over 35 years of age and meets all of the other Constitutional requirements to serve as president.
I really think it's time to move on to something more productive.
No, it does NOT automatically make you a US citizen for the following reasons.
IF he was born in Hawaii, then yes, he was born a US citizen. However we have the testimony of his paternal grandmother swearing he was born in Kenya. There is speculation that is why there is no 'birth certificate' but rather a 'Certification of live birth'- to get the latter his mother just had to report it to the state upon her return from Kenya. IF he was born in Kenya, then the Citizenship act of 1943 and its 1951 ammendments come into effect- if you are born overseas to one parent who is a US citizen and one who is not, then at least one of your parents must have been a US citizen of legal age for a period of not less than 10 years. His mother was too young to qualify for that.
Now yes, all that is a stretch. Far more compelling is the case that he expatriated his citizenship when his mother married the Indonesian national Lolo Soetoro who legally adopted Barack Obama aka Barry Dunham aka Barry Obama aka Barack Dunham (and after that aka Barack Soetoro, Barry Soetoro). As a minor his citizenship would have been expatriated when she did so with hers. He could have reclaimed this without prejudice so long as he returned to the US and didn't travel for a period of at least 8 (I think) years- however upon his return from Indonesia he traveled to Canada, Kenya, and Afghanistan. On an Indonesian passport. Game over. He loses.
I'm not saying I'm convinced of all this. I think however that given the gravity of the situation it is irresponsible fo the SCOTUS to simply dismiss these cases. Why won't he release his school records? If it ISN'T because they list his citizenship as Indonesian, then why? Was he, god forbid, not the eurudite and magnificent student he's portrayed as?
Anyone with 6 aliases has something fishy going on that's all I'm saying.
I know many questions arise regarding his birth certificate, but I have seen a reproduction of his birth announcement from the Honolulu newspaper the day after he was born. It does not look faked to me.
Besides, do you really think Obama would be removed from office even if it was discovered he was born outside the U.S.? I cannot imagine that happening. It would cause a civil war.
He would be removed from office, or
The goverment would blatently disregard
the Constitution. One would start a civil war
when it should not, and one would not start
a civil war when it should.
Our goverment is already skilled at disregarding
the constitution.
...In 1961 he and other colored folks were referred to as negro, or colored, not sure what was placed on BC's though. To have referred to him, or another colored person as "black" would have been a slam...I don't ever remember "black" or "African" being used back then either...[;)]
From what I understand that is not a Birth Certificate, but rather a certificate of live birth. I have heard that there is a difference. If you are actually born in Hawaii you are issued a "Birth Certificate".Anyone know the facts about the difference between the two?
Birth Certificate is issued by the state (w/raised state seal).
"Certificate of Live Birth" is issued by the hospital, and is not accepted as a valid form of ID, according to DHS. You cannot use a "cetificate of live birth" as proof of identiy to get a driver's license, a SS card, nor any other State or Federally issued identifications.
What's my prize?[:D]
I think it's a fake, just like everything else about this guy!
DITTO!!!
+1
He is a surely a one term president,then we can attempt to rebuilt the damage his administration has done .
Betcha a dozen of Krispy Kreme donuts that he will win a second term, IF there's a real election in 2012.
HRS 338-13(b), 338-19
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/a-not-so-minor.html