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"All vets are mentally ill", Says Feinstein

dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
edited July 2013 in General Discussion
Quote of the day by Dianne Feinstein

Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill and government should prevent them from owning firearms"

Yep, - she really said it on Thursday in a meeting in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. . and the quote below from the LA Times is priceless.


Some times even the L.A. Times gets it right.

Kurt Nimmo: "Senator Feinstein insults all U.S. Veterans as she flays about in a vain attempt to save her bill."

Quote of the Day from the Los Angeles Times:

"Frankly, I don't know what it is about California , but we seem to have a strange urge to elect really obnoxious women to high office. I'm not bragging, you understand, but no other state, including Maine , even comes close. When it comes to sending left-wing dingbats to Washington , we're Number One. There's no getting around the fact that the last time anyone saw the likes of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi, they were stirring a cauldron when the curtain went up on 'Macbeth'.

The four of them are like jennyasses who happen to possess the gift of blab. You don't know if you should condemn them for their stupidity or simply marvel at their ability to form words."

-- Columnist Burt Prelutsky, Los Angeles Times
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Feinstein is the one who needs mental care.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • wanted manwanted man Member Posts: 3,276
    edited November -1
    Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill and government should prevent them from owning firearms"

    Kinda' funny how that works; EVERY vet I know -and there are quite a few- will tell you that they think Feinstein is mentally ill and the gov't -excluding the Armed Forces- should not be allowed to own firearms [;)]
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    The only reason California keeps it's lead over Washington State (see Patty Murray, Maria Cantspell) is that California has a larger population base- but if the relocation from CA to WA continues it won't be long before California is merely "First Among Equals".
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill and government should prevent them from owning firearms"


    As a Combat Veteran, I believe that Dianne Feinstein is mentally ill and I think the Government should prevent her from being in Congress. In fact I find her presence in congress an insult to every Citizen in this country.

    If it was not for the perverted sicko liberals in the district she so aptly represents I doubt she would get 10 votes.
    RLTW

  • calrugerfancalrugerfan Member Posts: 18,209
    edited November -1
    She has her CCW though. So she must be pro gun, right?
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by calrugerfan
    She has her CCW though. So she must be pro gun, right?


    A significant portion of gun accidents result in self-inflicted wounds- since she evidently has a CCW, we can hope; and may even benefit- has anyone considered setting up a lottery/pool where entrants pick the time and type of injury? I'd pick 1AM on a Sunday morning, shot in the glutes maximus.
  • llamallama Member Posts: 2,637 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Study was done a while back that indicated most CEOs and Politicians have sociopathic tendencies
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I felt compelled to C/P that and put it on my FB page!
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but she never said that in front of the judiciary committee.


    It's hard enough to keep tabs on the politicians (and Feinstein is the enemy, no doubt about it) without howling from the rooftops everytime someone sends a bogus chain-email which claims something to be true that clearly isn't.


    To say it plainly: It makes us all look like a bunch of *.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,524 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why don't the Vets in Kalifornia recall her?
  • sgm hagsgm hag Member Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This woman should be the Poster Child for ABORTION RIGHTS!
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but she never said that in front of the judiciary committee.


    It's hard enough to keep tabs on the politicians (and Feinstein is the enemy, no doubt about it) without howling from the rooftops everytime someone sends a bogus chain-email which claims something to be true that clearly isn't.


    To say it plainly: It makes us all look like a bunch of *.


    You're right, she didn't.....but she probably wanted to.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What she actually said:

    http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013/03/10/sen-feinstein-says-veterans-are-mentally-cant-own-guns/

    ".this adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was effect. and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. that included active military. The problem with expanding this is that you know with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it's not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this. So you know I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to - if you're going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don't have access to this kind of weapon."

    What she actually said, then, is that there is no reason to grant special exemptions for retired military personnel, which, frankly, makes sense. Her entire premise that we should restrict the mythical assault weapon to active duty military and law enforcement is wrong, obviously. She is also terribly wrong in thinking that PTSD is a product of the Gulf War, or that it is a new phenomenon at all.

    There is nothing wrong, however, with her suggestion that retired military be treated like everyone else.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    She is a liberal democrat held in high prestige by a state full of liberals. Liberals conception of the military and those who serve are well known and negative.
    The hard truth is the CA Senator, like so many in her politcal party, does not think ANYBODY should own a gun.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    She is a liberal democrat held in high prestige by a state full of liberals. Liberals conception of the military and those who serve are well known and negative.
    The hard truth is the CA Senator, like so many in her politcal party, does not think ANYBODY, except her, should own a gun.


    California and NY have the same problem with politics. Higher population in the cities than in the rural areas.

    There are many conservative people in both states. People that believe in, support and defend The Constitution. The problem is, we are severely outnumbered.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Whenever the word 'ALL' is used to justify opinion as fact...
    The user is usually ignorant beyond any shadow of a doubt.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Feinstein is just another Loon from the Land of Fruits and Nuts...
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but she never said that in front of the judiciary committee.


    It's hard enough to keep tabs on the politicians (and Feinstein is the enemy, no doubt about it) without howling from the rooftops everytime someone sends a bogus chain-email which claims something to be true that clearly isn't.


    To say it plainly: It makes us all look like a bunch of *.


    Yes'ir it does, all day long. I lived with the N. Idaho stigma until they were wiped out like a nest of vermin.

    Clouder..
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by us55840


    In truth, it sure seems all politicians are mentally ill and a great many are sex addicts too.

    [;)]


    I am a sex addict
    can I be a politician?


    Yes, but we won't like you anymore.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    actually just part of her re-election rhetoric
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm a vet and I'm not mentally ill ... she won't be taking my guns.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andersk
    I'm a vet and I'm not mentally ill ... she won't be taking my guns.


    Good, because she never said that or anything similar.

    She's an * alright, so much so I just do not get why people feel the need to manufacture lies about an *?

    Do they truly need her to be a bigger * than she already is?
  • 7.62x39Lover7.62x39Lover Member Posts: 3,939 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Vets are the salt of the earth. They posses uncommon valor and put their lives on the line in service of their country. Feinstein has never served her country and doesn't deserve the right to shine a veteran's boots, let alone call them mentally ill.
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am a vet and I have some guns, so Diane, you stupid *, come and get'em.
  • mjbmxzmjbmxz Member Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I heard that I was just [:(!] Soldiers can serve our country with guns and die for it, but to come home and be denied a right, that pisses me right off!

    She needs a swift kick in the *!
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    every time they name a new disease or disorder, they rush to fill the roles of people who have it. there are enough diseases/mental disorders to cover just about all of humanity. with ptsd being a catch all, gival all diagnosis for the vast majority of the military, along with all of the other various disorders one could be saddled with(voluntarily or otherwise), she's right. all veterans are mentally ill(ill being defined as fitting the defining diagnosis for one or more mental disorders).

    but so is the rest of the population, so it becomes moot. the only reason any person walking the earth today doesnt have a mental health diagnosis is because they havent submitted(willingly or unwillingly) to the battery of tests that end is some type of diagnosis. mental health professionals make their living treating(not curing) mental health problems. if you go see a shrink, he will inevitably check a box on your form.

    servicemen dont have a choice. they are seen by military doctors whos knee jerk reaction is the ptsd button. so yeah, the vets are mentally ill, along with the rest of the population including feinstein.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,496 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Feinstein calling veterans mentally ill is the most egregious example of the "pot and kettle" idiom I can think of.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • md1634md1634 Member Posts: 644 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Check what she really said on factcheck.org.
  • Oso2142Oso2142 Member Posts: 2,940
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Laredo Lefty
    I am a vet and I have some guns, so Diane, you stupid *, come and get'em.


    Nah, your collection's just a "small" start. [:D]

    Well, to be honest, it's a collection I don't think I'll ever be able to compete with. [;)]
  • gesshotsgesshots Member Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Dad carred a gun from 1942 till 1974 (his death) as a 3.5 years - WWII vet and a NJ State Policeman ! A saner more compassionate man - I have yet to meet.

    DF can go pound sand up her.....................

    [}:)][}:)][}:)][:(!][xx(]
    It's being willing. I found out early that most men, regardless of cause or need, aren't willing. They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull the trigger. I won't. ~ J.B. Books
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by md1634
    Check what she really said on factcheck.org.


    Agree but no way people here will do that. Too many are all wrapped up in being pissed off, they rejoice in repeating lies to feed their anger.

    The actual anti-gunner behavior is not difficult to combat. The delusional rants of pro-gunners help feed the fear of the anti-gun side, cost us votes and support.

    I am far more concerned that gun rights will be lost by acts of right wing extremist delusional political suicide than by what the anti-gunners normally attempt in real life.
  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don quoted: quote: I think we have to - if you're going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don't have access to this kind of weapon.

    Small first steps; one thing at a time.
    Start denying rights to someone because of a perceived incapacity, then all you need to do is continue to add more and more parameters to that perception until no one is left out.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,496 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have no idea what she actually said - and she has certainly spoken on this topic many MANY times, so pointing to one instance where she didn't say something is hardly all-encompassing of her rhetoric. It is also true that factcheck.org is a rabidly left-wing, Democrat mouthpiece; it can be expected to cherrypick quotes to cast Feinstein in a favorable light.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Of course she said it, it's on the internet.

    I grunt, you fart.[:D]

    Clouder..
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1BigGuy
    Don quoted: quote: I think we have to - if you're going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don't have access to this kind of weapon.

    Small first steps; one thing at a time.
    Start denying rights to someone because of a perceived incapacity, then all you need to do is continue to add more and more parameters to that perception until no one is left out.


    You really need to read what the dingbat said.

    She was arguing against the exemption from the AWB for retired military personnel. She is not signaling out anyone for the denial of rights; she wants that right denied to everybody.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sent her an E-Mail. If I get a reply I will post it.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    It is also true that factcheck.org is a rabidly left-wing, Democrat mouthpiece; it can be expected to cherrypick quotes to cast Feinstein in a favorable light.


    It's also true that the minutes of Senate Judiciary Hearings are freely available online.

    Slamming the truth, because the truth happened to be pointed out by someone on the other side, doesn't help us.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    quote:Originally posted by md1634
    Check what she really said on factcheck.org.


    Agree but no way people here will do that. Too many are all wrapped up in being pissed off, they rejoice in repeating lies to feed their anger.

    The actual anti-gunner behavior is not difficult to combat. The delusional rants of pro-gunners help feed the fear of the anti-gun side, cost us votes and support.

    I am far more concerned that gun rights will be lost by acts of right wing extremist delusional political suicide than by what the anti-gunners normally attempt in real life.


    Chris, people will and do check stuff that gets posted here. There are at least three posters that know this is a BS story. Not all here drink the koolaid, from either party.

    If it was easy to defeat the "anti-gunners", the battle would be over by now.
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Makes you wonder how many of these stories are actually started by anti-gunners, just KNOWING a lot of pro-gunners are gullible and will spread the word. Eventually the truth comes out, but by then our credibility and reputations have been damaged.

    Guys, PLEASE, when you get wind of something scandalous about THEM, again, PLEASE, verify the story before spreading it. The reputation you save could be your own. [:)]
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