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Art or Blasphemy???

n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
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FRED SHUSTER
SPECIAL TO THE STAR


LOS ANGELES-Madonna's new world tour kicked off Sunday, and the Church of England immediately weighed in with a bad review - something about the singer wearing a crown of thorns while being crucified on a mirrored cross.

It was a spectacularly exciting two-hour show, packed with skin-baring dancers, fine singing, some of the best dance music of the decade and one of the most memorable stage entrances in memory. And it included a scene where Madonna - age 47 and the mother of two - sang the ballad "Live to Tell" suspended from a giant cross.

Madonna's elaborately staged "Confessions" road show, which occupied a gigantic high-tech T-shaped stage, took in 22 songs from all aspects of her career, thematically broken into four sections.

The tightly choreographed concert began when a giant crystal disco ball was lowered from the ceiling to the end of a long catwalk stretching deep into the audience. Out popped Madonna, a dominatrix in jodhpurs, top hat and snapping a jewelled riding crop, delivering the recent "Future Lovers," surrounded by male dancers.

Madonna was in thrilling, non-stop-action mode, strutting up and down the catwalk, crawling on all fours, offering some expert pelvic thrusts and holding attention all around. The singing was strong, the material well chosen, and accompaniment by a top-notch, seven-member ensemble was solid.

The dozen or so dancers had as many costume changes as the headliner. Gymnasts worked out on platforms while massive video screens showed images of war, world leaders, horses - and Madonna.

While it was a flashy Hollywood production, there seemed to be little room for ad-libs, although Madonna did throw in some expletives to urge a sing-along during the finale of her current disco anthem, "Hung Up," as Mylar balloons fell
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  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    blasphemy.
    she isnt worthy of the death my CHRIST suffered.
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  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe she suffers from delusions of granduer. Remember a few years ago when she tried to copyright her name?
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    Too old to live...too young to die...
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  • beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    She's "sick" and always has been! [xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(]
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  • jabronij3jabronij3 Member Posts: 4,686
    edited November -1
    BLASPHEMY! people and "art" like this are what is wrong with the freedom of speach crowd it don't give you a right to go stupid, such as devil worship an friendISM
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    Art or blasphemy? Who cares? It's Madonna. What a pig.
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  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    Art is in the eye of the beholder.. I would not hold this as art, And would not associate with anyone who did.
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  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    if it critizes Christianity then it is art. Anyone other religion, race, sexual orientation, ethinicity, or gender than it is racist, hateful and mean spirited
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  • bigt7mmbigt7mm Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Entertainment? What the hell have we become?[V][xx(][8][:(][B)]

    Next thing you know she'll have a turban on her head...
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  • 7.62x397.62x39 Member Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Blasfemy, thats worse than making fun of our soldiers dieing
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  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 7.62x39
    Blasfemy, thats worse than making fun of our soldiers dieing


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  • MuddBuggMuddBugg Member Posts: 107 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It would be nice if it was a real crucifiction......And Michael Jackasson was on the other side![}:)]
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    Masistera is.....a pig. Not worthy of further attention.
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  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But. . .but I thought she was Jewish now!

    (I guess that was only for her last tour!).
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,469 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is crap, like everything else she has ever done..
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  • gbeggrowgbeggrow Member Posts: 5,499 ✭
    edited November -1
    Why not try to duplicate the real thing......nasty skank![xx(]
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  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
    But. . .but I thought she was Jewish now!

    (I guess that was only for her last tour!).


    Well, I think that is the reason why she was crucified. [:D][}:)][}:)]
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  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And by the way.

    While the-artist-currently-known-as-Madonna has no problem trashing her own birth-religion to generate controversy and sell tickets, when it comes to performing in the actual birthplace of Jesus (ie Israel), she refused, backing down from terrorist threats against her children.

    quote:http://www.israelnewsagency.com/madonnaisrael609869.html

    The reports quoted an associate of the singer as saying that Madonna was "not ready to take chances with her kids."

    The threats were apparently delivered to Madonna's office in Los Angeles. According to The Sun, they also "displayed in-depth knowledge" about the singer's aides. Madonna said that she had canceled three Israeli stops on her "Re-Invention" tour because of violence in the region, including the killing of the leader of the terror group Hamas.

    Madonna, told "Access Hollywood" that her manager wouldn't let her travel to Israel because of the "attack on the leader of Hamas."

    "It's not a good idea to go there and do concerts," she told the syndicated entertainment TV show in an interview that aired Monday.

    Asked by "Access Hollywood" if she had been threatened, she replied: "No, if I had my way, I'd go. My manager wouldn't let me."
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  • wanted manwanted man Member Posts: 3,276
    edited November -1
    I was raised up that if you had nothing nice to say about someone...........
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  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    beantownshootah: quote: when it comes to performing in the actual birthplace of Jesus (ie Israel), Ahhh, the Zionists haven't yet reached their goal of Greater Israel.

    You mean Palestine; Bethlehem is Palestinian. FYI: quote: Bethlehem (Arabic #1576;#1610;#1578; #1604;#1581;#1605; Bayt La#7717;m (help?info) "house of meat"; Standard Hebrew #1489;#1497;#1514; #1500;#1495;#1501; "house of bread", Bet l?#7717;em / Bet l?#7717;em; Tiberian Hebrew B?#7791; l?#7717;em / B?#7791; l#257;#7717;em) (Greek: #914;#951;#952;#955;#949;#941;#956;) is a city in the West Bank under Palestinian Authority considered a central hub of Palestinian cultural and tourism industries.
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  • OLDMANDONNIEOLDMANDONNIE Member Posts: 308 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I began to dislike Madonna when she first came on the scene and she made the off the cuff comment that she wanted to have Christ's baby. She only said that for the shock value and she's been doing that kind of thing ever since. She has some talent, I'll give her that, but her morals and tact have never been worthy of her fame.
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Art or Blasphemy? Neither, it's business.

    Clouder..
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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    who cares? she makes money the old fashioned way...works her butt off
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  • 9mmsmith9mmsmith Member Posts: 62 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its not art by no means. Madonna is a PIG, this is just what she wants to happen, people looking at her and wanting to state thier opinion about her. She is a media fatlady! People like her and Tom Cruise think people actually want to know what they are thinking, who gives a sh** about what they think. During election years you have actors and music people giving thier opinions about things they know nothing about, just stick to the acting or music if I wanted thier opinion I would crack thier head open and dip it out myself.
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  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    NUNN quote:Art or blasphemy? Who cares? It's Madonna. What a pig.

    ...yep, a pig with hairy armpits...[:0]

    ...I believe in God, don't go to church...and being one of the token joos round here,...but, don't go to temple like I should either...BUT
    that kinda crap is wrong...[xx(]

    someone ought to introduce her to a razor...[^]



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  • bartobarto Member Posts: 4,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The nails were obviously waaay to small.
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  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
    Art or Blasphemy? Neither, it's business.

    Clouder..


    I could't agree more.
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  • chollagardenschollagardens Member Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Blasphemy

    [:(!]Madonna aka sarcastically as Our lady of perpetual promotion[:(!]
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  • CHGOTHNDERCHGOTHNDER Member Posts: 8,936 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    She's SHOT!!!

    PJ
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  • hicap47hicap47 Member Posts: 516 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Madonna....(Yawn)ZZZZZzzzzzzz.......
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  • tacking1tacking1 Member Posts: 3,844
    edited November -1
    1st reaction was the same as Bobski. I wanted to slap her silly and tie her pigtails in knots.

    2nd reaction was to agree with Plink and Clouder...business is business.

    How I really feel? Pity and compassion. For a person to have to resort to the things she does to make her living deserves my pity and compassion.

    My Lord gave his only son in the end that all shall be forgiven. It is the essence of the Christian faith to forgive.
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bobski
    blasphemy.
    she isnt worthy of the death my CHRIST suffered.


    Neither are you...or I...or anyone else for that matter. That's the whole reason for the sacrifice in the first place.
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tacking1
    1st reaction was the same as Bobski. I wanted to slap her silly and tie her pigtails in knots.

    2nd reaction was to agree with Plink and Clouder...business is business.

    How I really feel? Pity and compassion. For a person to have to resort to the things she does to make her living deserves my pity and compassion.

    My Lord gave his only son in the end that all shall be forgiven. It is the essence of the Christian faith to forgive.



    This line of thought certainly does not come from the Bible...or at least any of mainstream Christianity's translations of the Bible.

    ...if only it were true...
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  • tacking1tacking1 Member Posts: 3,844
    edited November -1
    just a few-

    Matthew 6:14-15

    (14)For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.(15)But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

    Matthew 18:35

    So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

    Mark 11:35-36

    (35)And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. (36)But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

    I think there is a line or two in the LORD'S PRAYER about forgiving too.
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  • Slow_HandSlow_Hand Member Posts: 2,835
    edited November -1
    Freedom of Speech is a sacred right for all Americans. It is guaranteed by our Constitution for all and many men and women sacrificed and continue to sacrifice life and limb to preserve that right for us. Perhaps the greater question we should ask here is "just because you can legally do something distasteful, boorish, insulting, irreverent, demeaning and plain out stupid, does Freedom of Speech imply that you have to do it? Or that you should do it?" Face it folks, she's 47, old news and desperate to get herself smack back in the middle of the headlines, no matter what the sentiment. Tact, diplomacy and common sense are not, in my opinion, synonymous with Madonna. Also, I tend to think that people who truly understand and embrace their own religion in turn show respect for the religions of others.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Last I knew she was being hosed by Dennis Rodman. Did she recover from THAT spectacle, or was that considered "art" also? [xx(]
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  • oldgunneroldgunner Member Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Neither, just a distacool itl attempt to make money.
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  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Art or blasphemy?

    nether just bad taste, there are far more worse things done with a cross than that
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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Blasphemy? Hardly. The art is apparent if one considers Madonna's own crucifixion for Swept Away. When viewed in this light, the symbolism becomes clear: the pain of crucifixion, rising from the dead and the hopeful rebirth into the star she once was. The mirrored cross is also symbolic, suggesting that those who so bitterly and eagerly crucified her need also look at themselves, from all sides and all angles, to see how they, too, both emotionally and spiritually, are similarly impaled.

    heh-heh-heh. Sometimes I crack myself up.
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  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:And Michael Jackasson was on the other side! He'd be hung upside down.
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  • nomadictaonomadictao Member Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DWS quote: Text Blasphemy? Hardly. The art is apparent if one considers Madonna's own crucifixion for Swept Away. When viewed in this light, the symbolism becomes clear: the pain of crucifixion, rising from the dead and the hopeful rebirth into the star she once was. The mirrored cross is also symbolic, suggesting that those who so bitterly and eagerly crucified her need also look at themselves, from all sides and all angles, to see how they, too, both emotionally and spiritually, are similarly impaled. Nice story! Maybe a B+. [;)]
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