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How to improve your hand gun shooting

Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
edited January 2017 in General Discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHqx0Jy3z3Y

Always something to learn. Enjoy.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
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  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is a good one...

    Here is a general article from NRA journal.
    https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2011/4/4/five-tips-to-improve-your-shooting/
    "What is truth?'
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  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gosh, I just read an article by Champion shooter Rob Latham (and have seen a video by Jerry Miculek saying the same thing as Rob) that one doesn't 'aim' at the target, one simply points the firearm at the target and pulls the trigger without moving the gun. As Rob says: "Aiming is useless"

    I'm willing to bet that Brian Zink and Perryshooter might disagree.

    Of course YMMV

    https://www.sofmag.com/aiming-is-useless-3-secrets-to-great-shooting-rob-leatham-6x-ipsc-world-champion/
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  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by iceracerx
    Gosh, I just read an article by Champion shooter Rob Latham (and have seen a video by Jerry Miculek saying the same thing as Rob) that one doesn't 'aim' at the target, one simply points the firearm at the target and pulls the trigger without moving the gun. As Rob says: "Aiming is useless"

    I'm willing to be that Brian Zink and Perryshooter might disagree.

    Of course YMMV

    https://www.sofmag.com/aiming-is-useless-3-secrets-to-great-shooting-rob-leatham-6x-ipsc-world-champion/






    it is about distance, ipsc shooters go from 0 yards to 35 yards and back and forth with a larger margin of error than bullseye shooters

    in a close up self defense situation 50yard+ bullseye shooting will play a small role if any at all




    i posted several videos from rob and todd jarrett years ago on this subject and got scoffed at , apparently the masters here have everything they ever need to know
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    If there's nothing you can learn from the linked vid, feel free to just move along to another thread.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1911- it's also about target size. Aren't most 'steel' plates around 12" in dia? The 'dueling tree' I've seen are smaller.

    IPSC/IDPA targets usually 'silhouettes' with A.B and C zones, no?

    I was surprised that the video didn't explain the importance of getting the handgun properly positioned in the strong hand. Eons ago I was taught that the pistol should line up with the elbow, the indentation at the joint between the forearm and hand and the target. That is what determines how much finger is on the trigger. Maybe that is an old bullseye technique, but then again, I'm an old bullseye shooter.

    I've said it many times, shooting is simple (this applies to both rifles and handguns)

    1. Establish the perfect sight picture

    2. Discharge the firearm without disturbing the sight picture.
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  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    IPSC/IDPA targets have completely different scoring zones

    quote:
    1. Establish the perfect sight picture

    2. Discharge the firearm without disturbing the sight picture.


    in fast accurate handgun shooting there are actually 5 points of focus, example: shooting at a target 5 feet away your focus is on the target not the sights your sights are blurred , go 25 yards and your focuse is on the sights with the target blurred


    unload your gun and try that on 2 fixed points in your house, may cause a bit of eye strain at first but that goes away fast, but you will quickly see there is no "one" rule

    also both eyes open [:D]



    edit: there is no such thing as a perfect sight picture, accept this and your shooting will improve
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    very interesting topic
    reinforces my belief that there is more than one way to skin a Cat.
    IE what works for you is how you should shoot Of course shoot in a way that pleases you in the results I TRIED COWBOY ACTION SHOOTING and learned very quickly the number of hits meant nothing Speed was everything being I am very Skinny if I had lived in the days of the wild west & was and challenged to a duel at Noon I would have turned sideways and when my protagonist
    got within 100 yards I would have yelled THAT"S FAR ENOUGH and let him draw and fire a shot. then I would shoot him in his left eye[:0][;)]
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  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. In a gunfight, you need to take your time in a hurry. Wyatt Earp
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  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Another criticism of the posted video is that the so called 'Weaver' stance described ISN'T the actual 'Weaver' stance.

    A quick internet search will show that most people (including some LEO instructors) don't know what a REAL Weaver stance is.

    I'm glad I was taught long ago (56 years) before all the BS info was available.

    This site is a close to the original as I could find. Note that the shoulders and hips of the shooter are 5 to 10 degrees rotated from square, NOT 30-40 degrees.

    https://www.pewpewtactical.com/shooting-stance-grip/
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