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lots of people have been getting mad at me because
robbie penny
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i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
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True, the children are better off w/two parents. But at least the mothers didn't abort them.
The kid dropped out of high school. He has been unable to hold down a job.
The kid lives with his girlfriend. She just delivered their third child. She works 2 jobs, at burger joints.
Now, my brother has a degree from Georgia Tech and works at an industry in South Carolina, makes $90K a year, he is a classy guy, just a crappy father, evidently.
My brother was at my mom's house at Christmas, he was showing off photos of the grandkids on his cell phone.
All my sisters, sisters in law etc were cooing and gurgling over the photos, all had smiles on their faces.
I got my brother out on the back porch where nobody else could hear. I asked him, "Who is paying for all these illegitimate babies?"
He said, "The government mostly. Food stamps, rent subsidies."
I said, "Your son is no better than black welfare trash in downtown Atlanta."
Honest to God, I thought he would swing on me, but I sometimes just can't help but speak the truth.
Surprisingly, he said, "Yeah, you are pretty much right."
So pay your income taxes folks, there are some white welfare trash in South Carolina to rival the blacks....
....and they are BLOOD RELATED TO ME!! AAAAHHHHHHGGGGGGGG!!!
i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
Those people are so lucky to have a judge and jury as a friend.
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
Those people are so lucky to have a judge and jury as a friend.
saying yes to something is equally as judgemental as saying no.
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
Those people are so lucky to have a judge and jury as a friend.
saying yes to something is equally as judgemental as saying no.
True.
So what?
I doubt anyone asked you for a yes-no judgment.
Is school out already?
[xx(]
I guess you can't fix stupid.
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
Those people are so lucky to have a judge and jury as a friend.
saying yes to something is equally as judgemental as saying no.
True.
So what?
I doubt anyone asked you for a yes-no judgment.
Is school out already?
[xx(]
Well, maybe you disagree with me that intentionally having a child out of wedlock is a sin. I believe a child has the right to a married mother and a father to raise and any attempt otherwise by an egg or sperm donors is a sin.
To clarrify, a "sperm donor" is often refered to in the liberal media as a "babys daddy" and an "egg donor" is sometimes called a "babys momma".
My brother has a 22 year old son.
The kid dropped out of high school. He has been unable to hold down a job.
The kid lives with his girlfriend. She just delivered their third child. She works 2 jobs, at burger joints.
Now, my brother has a degree from Georgia Tech and works at an industry in South Carolina, makes $90K a year, he is a classy guy, just a crappy father, evidently.
My brother was at my mom's house at Christmas, he was showing off photos of the grandkids on his cell phone.
All my sisters, sisters in law etc were cooing and gurgling over the photos, all had smiles on their faces.
I got my brother out on the back porch where nobody else could hear. I asked him, "Who is paying for all these illegitimate babies?"
He said, "The government mostly. Food stamps, rent subsidies."
I said, "Your son is no better than black welfare trash in downtown Atlanta."
Honest to God, I thought he would swing on me, but I sometimes just can't help but speak the truth.
Surprisingly, he said, "Yeah, you are pretty much right."
So pay your income taxes folks, there are some white welfare trash in South Carolina to rival the blacks....
....and they are BLOOD RELATED TO ME!! AAAAHHHHHHGGGGGGGG!!!
So tell us all how wonderful your kids are. Also for what reason do you call your brother a crappy father. Parents can only do their best. Even when you do your best your kids can still turn out all wrong. And it is only gonna get worst. Government interfering in our lives. Soon we will not be able to discipline our kids at all.
My brother has a 22 year old son.
The kid dropped out of high school. He has been unable to hold down a job.
The kid lives with his girlfriend. She just delivered their third child. She works 2 jobs, at burger joints.
Now, my brother has a degree from Georgia Tech and works at an industry in South Carolina, makes $90K a year, he is a classy guy, just a crappy father, evidently.
My brother was at my mom's house at Christmas, he was showing off photos of the grandkids on his cell phone.
All my sisters, sisters in law etc were cooing and gurgling over the photos, all had smiles on their faces.
I got my brother out on the back porch where nobody else could hear. I asked him, "Who is paying for all these illegitimate babies?"
He said, "The government mostly. Food stamps, rent subsidies."
I said, "Your son is no better than black welfare trash in downtown Atlanta."
Honest to God, I thought he would swing on me, but I sometimes just can't help but speak the truth.
Surprisingly, he said, "Yeah, you are pretty much right."
So pay your income taxes folks, there are some white welfare trash in South Carolina to rival the blacks....
....and they are BLOOD RELATED TO ME!! AAAAHHHHHHGGGGGGGG!!!
My sentiments exactly! Why in the HE!! should the honest hard working people have to support illegitimate kids? The government should make a 2 kid limit, any more than that and you are on your own.
+ 1,000,000
go with the flow, go with your guts. I am going to my neices
wedding saturday. She's been living with the father of her
2 kids for years. I'm happy they are tying the knot.[:)]
My neice kept telling him to grow up...guess he finally did.
But she wasn't marrying him, and paying out cash for a divorce
until he did. I get happy when the kids got a good
situation.
Allen; Ya can't help who your relations are. Just remember...
what someone else does isn't who you are. I've got a little sister
that drives us all nuts.
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
My brother has a 22 year old son.
The kid dropped out of high school. He has been unable to hold down a job.
The kid lives with his girlfriend. She just delivered their third child. She works 2 jobs, at burger joints.
Now, my brother has a degree from Georgia Tech and works at an industry in South Carolina, makes $90K a year, he is a classy guy, just a crappy father, evidently.
My brother was at my mom's house at Christmas, he was showing off photos of the grandkids on his cell phone.
All my sisters, sisters in law etc were cooing and gurgling over the photos, all had smiles on their faces.
I got my brother out on the back porch where nobody else could hear. I asked him, "Who is paying for all these illegitimate babies?"
He said, "The government mostly. Food stamps, rent subsidies."
I said, "Your son is no better than black welfare trash in downtown Atlanta."
Honest to God, I thought he would swing on me, but I sometimes just can't help but speak the truth.
Surprisingly, he said, "Yeah, you are pretty much right."
So pay your income taxes folks, there are some white welfare trash in South Carolina to rival the blacks....
....and they are BLOOD RELATED TO ME!! AAAAHHHHHHGGGGGGGG!!!
So tell us all how wonderful your kids are. Also for what reason do you call your brother a crappy father. Parents can only do their best. Even when you do your best your kids can still turn out all wrong. And it is only gonna get worst. Government interfering in our lives. Soon we will not be able to discipline our kids at all.
I belive what he is getting at is, parenting doesn't stop when your child reaches 18. They still need guidence into adulthood sometimes.
Were that MY son, I can honestly say, he either would hate me, or he would listen and get off his duff. By acting as if his lifestyle is ok and normal, you perpetuate the problem. Sitting on your duff and collecting welfare is unacceptable in my book. My kids allready understand this.
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
Those people are so lucky to have a judge and jury as a friend.
saying yes to something is equally as judgemental as saying no.
True.
So what?
I doubt anyone asked you for a yes-no judgment.
Is school out already?
[xx(]
Well, obviously you are the only person in the world qualified enough to pass ANY moral judgement, EH?
Sometimes you come off as left wing, nutty Liberal Matty.
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If your teenage daughter gets knocked up, you are, by definition a crappy parent. "Doing your best" means nothing if you are a failure. "Your best" is crappy. "Your best" sucks, big time.
Jeez, Ossifer, I did my best not to get drunk and cause that wreck where those folks were killed. I'm not a crappy driver. I did my best. And I thought that gun was unloaded. I'm not a crappy gun owner. I did my best.
You whiny crybabies who think "I did my best" is an excuse for failure must be Sarah Palin voters.
Results are the only thing that counts. Excuses suck.
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
My brother has a 22 year old son.
The kid dropped out of high school. He has been unable to hold down a job.
The kid lives with his girlfriend. She just delivered their third child. She works 2 jobs, at burger joints.
Now, my brother has a degree from Georgia Tech and works at an industry in South Carolina, makes $90K a year, he is a classy guy, just a crappy father, evidently.
My brother was at my mom's house at Christmas, he was showing off photos of the grandkids on his cell phone.
All my sisters, sisters in law etc were cooing and gurgling over the photos, all had smiles on their faces.
I got my brother out on the back porch where nobody else could hear. I asked him, "Who is paying for all these illegitimate babies?"
He said, "The government mostly. Food stamps, rent subsidies."
I said, "Your son is no better than black welfare trash in downtown Atlanta."
Honest to God, I thought he would swing on me, but I sometimes just can't help but speak the truth.
Surprisingly, he said, "Yeah, you are pretty much right."
So pay your income taxes folks, there are some white welfare trash in South Carolina to rival the blacks....
....and they are BLOOD RELATED TO ME!! AAAAHHHHHHGGGGGGGG!!!
So tell us all how wonderful your kids are. Also for what reason do you call your brother a crappy father. Parents can only do their best. Even when you do your best your kids can still turn out all wrong. And it is only gonna get worst. Government interfering in our lives. Soon we will not be able to discipline our kids at all.
My brother is condoning, and celebrating, the sociopathic behavior of his son.
My brother ought to be condemning the behavior of his son.
Due to irresponsible, immature punks like the 22 year old son, and to their enablers, like my brother, taxpayers are saddled with raising children who ought never to have been born.
Like I told my brother, he should have given that kid a case of condoms for Christmas, three years ago.
From what I said in my post the impartial reader can tell my brother is a crappy father.
Also for what reason do you call your brother a crappy father. Parents can only do their best.
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If your teenage daughter gets knocked up, you are, by definition a crappy parent. "Doing your best" means nothing if you are a failure. "Your best" is crappy. "Your best" sucks, big time.
Jeez, Ossifer, I did my best not to get drunk and cause that wreck where those folks were killed. I'm not a crappy driver. I did my best. And I thought that gun was unloaded. I'm not a crappy gun owner. I did my best.
One can have naturally rotten children. I got lucky. My six are all outstanding people and positive contributors to society. Not my doing. It was just "inside' them.
At the same time, I agree with Jame's points. My generation, and the next following, are the folks who LET our kids be screwed up,and thus, the rest of the society.
So, say whatever you want - WE OWN THIS CRUDDY SITUATION, and if it ever gets fixed, our Kids and Grandkids are the ones that'll have to unscrew it.
Sad, but true.
Doug
Anyone that thinks we should be limited to (2,or whatever) please come and spend a few days around my children, and then tell me which ones should be eliminated.
quote:Originally posted by JamesQuinn
Also for what reason do you call your brother a crappy father. Parents can only do their best.
If your teenage daughter gets knocked up, you are, by definition a crappy parent. "Doing your best" means nothing if you are a failure. "Your best" is crappy. "Your best" sucks, big time.
Jeez, Ossifer, I did my best not to get drunk and cause that wreck where those folks were killed. I'm not a crappy driver. I did my best. And I thought that gun was unloaded. I'm not a crappy gun owner. I did my best.
One can have naturally rotten children.
BS. Other than some rare genetic defects, your children are what YOU have made of them. Did you teach them, by example, to be loving and accepting, or did you show them racism and hatred? Did you show them how to act responsibly as you did, or did you teach them to blame their failures on others? Etc.
You didn't "get lucky". Your children are what you made of them. Congratulations to you and your wife.
I got lucky. My six are all outstanding people and positive contributors to society. Not my doing. It was just "inside' them.
At the same time, I agree with Jame's points. My generation, and the next following, are the folks who LET our kids be screwed up,and thus, the rest of the society.
So, say whatever you want - WE OWN THIS CRUDDY SITUATION, and if it ever gets fixed, our Kids and Grandkids are the ones that'll have to unscrew it.
Sad, but true.
Doug
[/quote]
I have 6 children.
Anyone that thinks we should be limited to (2,or whatever) please come and spend a few days around my children, and then tell me which ones should be eliminated.
Some folks should have no children.
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
Those people are so lucky to have a judge and jury as a friend.
saying yes to something is equally as judgemental as saying no.
True.
So what?
I doubt anyone asked you for a yes-no judgment.
Is school out already?
[xx(]
Well, obviously you are the only person in the world qualified enough to pass ANY moral judgement, EH?
Sometimes you come off as left wing, nutty Liberal Matty.
Being judgemental is easy. Anyone can do it. it just takes a few facts.
If you're a baseball player with a .005 hitting average, you're a crappy player.
If you're a NASCAR driver who manages to hit the wall in nearly every race, you're a crappy driver.
If you're a coach whose players are 1-19, you're a crappy coach.
If you're a parent with a knocked-up teen daughter and a son in jail, you're a crappy parent.
i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
you are a F'n moron. My wife and i wern't married with are first son. He wasnt planned and we had only been together for 4 months when we found out. We did move in together and did everything as a family. I went to every doctor appointment but we didnt want to rush out and get married just becouse of this. That would have been stupid. After being together for 3 years we did decide to get married and have been together for 10 years now including time not married. so according to you both my wife and i commited child abuse in having are first son out of wedlock. again you are a f'n moron.
I don't ever want to read anything from you complaining about your rights after reading that. What the hell kind of nonsense is that
If your teenage daughter gets knocked up, you are, by definition a crappy parent.
Sorry, but by definition, that does not make anyone a bad parent. "By definition" means that these are the things that define the term.
According to you, a parent could do everything else wrong, but if the girl doesn't catch a pearl bullet in the pink secret, (I just coined that term by the way) then any other transgressions are not important, because the kid didn't pop out a puppy of her own. The parent could be a denigrating drug addict who teaches the girl to steal and shoot up, but as long as she's not an unwed teenage mom, then everything is Roses. I gotta disagree with you on this one
--Sen Charles Schumer (D-NY)
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
quote:Originally posted by robbie penny
i dont say "congratulations" to girls who have a child out of wedlock.
i have had about 10 friends who have done so in the last 4 years.
everyone gives them praise and says how wonderful it is.
i say nothing out of respect. but i certainly dont praise them for comitting child abuse.
Those people are so lucky to have a judge and jury as a friend.
saying yes to something is equally as judgemental as saying no.
True.
So what?
I doubt anyone asked you for a yes-no judgment.
Is school out already?
[xx(]
Well, obviously you are the only person in the world qualified enough to pass ANY moral judgement, EH?
Sometimes you come off as left wing, nutty Liberal Matty.
And you come off as just plain old nutty!
people now a days just make me sick, but that is the liberal communistic society that we are turning into.
"The age of traditional values is over."
--Sen Charles Schumer (D-NY)
I have eleven grandchildren. One was conceived and born without benefit of having a dad around. It won't be easy, but I believe he will turn out okay. Yes, it is absolutely child abuse -- and the most selfish thing a parent can do to a kid. They should put it up for adoption (which is how we got five of the grandkids).
quote:Originally posted by coledigger4 The government should make a 2 kid limit, any more than that and you are on your own.
I don't ever want to read anything from you complaining about your rights after reading that. What the hell kind of nonsense is that
NO, NO, NO, not what I meant! I have 6 kids and wouldn't trade them for anything! What I meant was mothers that have more and more babies so they can get more and more welfare! Good God, I thought we were talking about people who have kids that live on welfare! I couldn't care less how many kids people have...as long as they can support them. I was a bit lost when 'shootertutor' made his comment and then I read yours, bang!, the bell rang and I went back to read what I wrote. Now that I have explained myself, I hopefully can walk right past the stairs to the upper level of the gallows!(sp?)
I agree with Robbie. Any woman (or couple) who has a child out of wedlock is either selfish or stupid, or both. And yes, I agree it is child abuse. It is absolutely impossible for a single mom to raise a kid all by herself. Family, friends, and neighbors are necessary -- but I'm the first to wonder "where the heck is the dad?"
I have eleven grandchildren. One was conceived and born without benefit of having a dad around. It won't be easy, but I believe he will turn out okay. Yes, it is absolutely child abuse -- and the most selfish thing a parent can do to a kid. They should put it up for adoption (which is how we got five of the grandkids).
Show me proof that two people who love each other and want to have a child, but DO NOT want to get married, is child abuse? How is that irresponsible, selfish, or stupid, for two very capable people who do not believe in marraige to have a baby? I fail to see your logic. Last I checked it we are able to choose what we believe in, and how we raise our children. As long as they take care of, support, and love their child (And each other) where is that wrong. Might be a big bad ugly 'SIN' in some peoples eyes, but so what? My wife and I did not get married until last year, after being together for 11 years. We had both of our children before we were married. Both planned. My job is good, I support my family, she is a stay at home mom. My children are FAR from abused. In fact we are DAMN good parents.
No; beating, neglecting, giving drugs to, throwing children from cars is child abuse. Being in a loving, non-marital relationship and being good parents to a child is not.
I couldn't care less if it's out of wedlock - nor do I consider it childabuse.
And last time I checked, I had my head set on straight enough.
Well, maybe you disagree with me that intentionally having a child out of wedlock is a sin. I believe a child has the right to a married mother and a father to raise and any attempt otherwise by an egg or sperm donors is a sin.
To clarrify, a "sperm donor" is often refered to in the liberal media as a "baby daddy" and an "egg donor" is sometimes called a "baby momma".
fixed it for ya
Allen
Can a man be a good father without being married?
We are losing the numbers game too badly to be picky.
I hear the nuns used to slap the poop out of unwed mothers in the hospitals.
These quaint old traditions are passing quickly.
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
My brother has a 22 year old son.
The kid dropped out of high school. He has been unable to hold down a job.
The kid lives with his girlfriend. She just delivered their third child. She works 2 jobs, at burger joints.
Now, my brother has a degree from Georgia Tech and works at an industry in South Carolina, makes $90K a year, he is a classy guy, just a crappy father, evidently.
My brother was at my mom's house at Christmas, he was showing off photos of the grandkids on his cell phone.
All my sisters, sisters in law etc were cooing and gurgling over the photos, all had smiles on their faces.
I got my brother out on the back porch where nobody else could hear. I asked him, "Who is paying for all these illegitimate babies?"
He said, "The government mostly. Food stamps, rent subsidies."
I said, "Your son is no better than black welfare trash in downtown Atlanta."
Honest to God, I thought he would swing on me, but I sometimes just can't help but speak the truth.
Surprisingly, he said, "Yeah, you are pretty much right."
So pay your income taxes folks, there are some white welfare trash in South Carolina to rival the blacks....
....and they are BLOOD RELATED TO ME!! AAAAHHHHHHGGGGGGGG!!!
So tell us all how wonderful your kids are. Also for what reason do you call your brother a crappy father. Parents can only do their best. Even when you do your best your kids can still turn out all wrong. And it is only gonna get worst. Government interfering in our lives. Soon we will not be able to discipline our kids at all.
+1
Except that I do not care what the government says. I will disipline my kids anytime they do something wrong! Even with the threat of jail!
Lucky for me I do have some pretty good kids and do not have to disipline very often and when I do it does not warrent a woppin (alot of this is because my kids know that I'm not afraid to give them that woppin[;)])
All in all for being a single parent I think I am doing a fair job. I know that there are things that I could be better at but my kids are polite to others (except between themselves like brothers and sisters are) and I can trust them for the most part. And I know I can leave a loaded gun out around them and not have to worry about them touching it (unless I tell them too).