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Help educate Paypal President

mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
Ebay is hosting a Town Hall Mtg on May 18th with Paypal President Jeff Jordan. This is our chance to grill him about his anti-american no firearms policy...

http://pages.ebay.com/townhall/?ssPageName=CMDV:AB

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  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,936 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Great idea, hmm... wait, it seems to me that you are enjoying the use of a pro-gun, pro-American web site. Why insist on bringing gunbroker unneeded competition?
  • Teflon888Teflon888 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think Paypal and fleabay are making enough $ as it is and are pretty stern about their firearms policies. I seriously doubt they'll change no matter how many people complain.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would you complain if American Express or Visa didn't let you pay for firearms purchases. Paypal now has a debit card system too.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My point is I'd like to be able to accept Paypal for payment at sights like Gunbroker. I'm sure some people here would love to have Firearms restricted even more like in England. Others of us paid attention in History class.
  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    ...it would be nice for paypal to "do" gun transactions again, but I doubt it will ever happen.

    ...I dropped my account with paypal, as quite a few others did several years ago after their adoption of their current "no gun" policy; unless there is a change...I will not deal with them...[;)]





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  • tazzertazzer Member Posts: 16,837
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by badwrench
    Ebay and Paypal are businesses, just like any other. 7-11 doesn't sell guns, are we going to force them to? It's their business, and they do business their way, dealing in the products they wish to deal in, and there are plenty of other businesses dealing in firearms that if Ebay and Paypal don't there are plenty that do, so why not patronize them instead of making other businesses deal in products they do not wish to deal in.

    This is a free-market economy, not some socialist/fascist society. Forcing private businesses to submit to governmental will is communism.


    badwrench your right its there choice but paypal is a paysite kinda like a bank
    what if all banks would not loan money for gun related items
    i know a lot of folks that get loans to buy high end firearms and have to get loans to do so he;; iv even barrowed money to buy when i ran across a good deal on a lot of guns from one seller.
    ebay i can understand besides they do sell gun related but i dont see paypals point of view.
    Taz
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I woulda dropped Pypal to but their 5% money market dividend to the account plus the debit card makes them very competitive. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. Just lobbying my opinion to make a positive change.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tazzer, I must say I agree with badwrench. If banks stopped allowing you to write checks to pay for guns or ammo, would you sign internet petitions to get them to change? Whizzing in the wind.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is a town hall forum where the President of Paypal will actually listen to your concerns. Thats a pretty far cry from wizzin in the wind. Think any NRA lobbyists will be there, doubt it. It's not like their policy is written in stone. Customers have a right to voice their concerns. Quit being so sarcastiv/pesimistic, your gonna give yourself a heart attack. Some of you guys sound like the real fascists!
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:will actually listen to your concerns

    And that is a far cry from actually changing policy.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do you think the man is inherintly Evil or something. that he can not be brought to reason?
  • Flyin_PaulieFlyin_Paulie Member Posts: 857 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrseatle
    Do you think the man is inherintly Evil or something. that he can not be brought to reason?
    I think they have made it very clear that they don't want to be "in the gun business". That is certainly their perogative, it's their company. My guess is, no matter what you say to them won't effect a change in company policy. Think Kalifornia[:p]
  • TXTrophyhunterTXTrophyhunter Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have any of you sent the NRA an email asking them to condsider opening a Paypal like site that is friendly to gun community as a whole? Not sure what good it would do but if the question appeared enough in front of them, who knows. I have already sent mine. It is as follows

    Message: Hi,

    I was wondering if the NRA has ever considered developing a payment
    site similar to PAYPAL that is friendly to the gun industry. We have
    been shunned by PAYPAL at every turn at sites like Gunbroker.com,
    {elsewhere} and {elsewhere}.com just to name a few. It truly would be a
    service beneficial to all firearms enthusiests and the NRA especially.

    Many thanks for what the NRA has done in the past and the future to
    come.

    Best Regards,
    Brent Ramsey

    Response given:
    Thank you for contacting us.
    I have forwarded this to the NRA Director of Member Services for
    review.
    Thank you very much for your support and please feel free to contact us
    if you ever need anything else!
    Best Regards,
    Morgan
    NRA Member Communications
    11250 Waples Mill Road
    Fairfax, VA 22030
    www.nra.org
    E-mail: membership@nrahq.org
    Phone: 1(800)672-3888

    2nd reply:

    Thank you for your inquiry to the National Rifle Association. A
    representative will contact you directly.

    We can only be heard if we speak loud enough or often enough to support what we love.
  • tazzertazzer Member Posts: 16,837
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flyin_Paulie
    quote:Originally posted by mrseatle
    Do you think the man is inherintly Evil or something. that he can not be brought to reason?
    I think they have made it very clear that they don't want to be "in the gun business". That is certainly their perogative, it's their company. My guess is, no matter what you say to them won't effect a change in company policy. Think Kalifornia[:p]

    Its not that they dont want to be in the gun business they dont want anything to do with it ,just my 2 cents. does it make them a gun dealer to handle the transfer. of the funds that are paying for the firearm. so they are not in the gun business but in the money business

    posted by He dog
    (Tazzer, I must say I agree with badwrench. If banks stopped allowing you to write checks to pay for guns or ammo, would you sign internet petitions to get them to change? Whizzing in the wind.)
    If I thought it wowuld do any good I would [:D][:D] but banks are in business to make money off of those loans so they look at more of what the customer wants.
    But you are both right it is a business choice sop if they want to lose money so be it.[;)][:D][:D]
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The REAL question here is: Why the HELL hasn't GUNBROKER opened something like paypal for use on Gunbroker??????

    Thats a huge NEED if there ever was one. Like the kid's say "DUH!"


    Merc
  • 65gto38965gto389 Member Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Teflon888
    I think Paypal and fleabay are making enough $ as it is and are pretty stern about their firearms policies. I seriously doubt they'll change no matter how many people complain.



    I agree with you, but I was reading the link above and it said you can post a question to that town hall meating. However it goes on to say that ALL questions will be reviewed by e-puke. democratic process my *.[:(!]

    This means that any pro-gun questions or websites confirming the evils of pay-puke will go unanswered.[:0]
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,073 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sent mine in....it read:

    My pay pal account was frozen for using my money in a firearm purchase. I am an FFL holder and 99% of my business is firearms. I obey all laws and want to know why pay pal feels they have the "right" to restrict U.S. currency?

    I wanted them to realize that if I have money tied up in their system...it doesn't mean that they can change the laws. This is U.S. currency related....so, why do they get to limit what I can buy...if it is legal...right?
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  • AdironduckAdironduck Member Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very good idea TexasTrophyhunter.I just sent the NRA an email.We'll see what happens.Thanks.[^]
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,073 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would still send in a message...just to let them know there are a lot of us...."gun people"
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  • TXTrophyhunterTXTrophyhunter Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just think it is time that gun owners as a whole quit trying to change others no gun policies and concentrate our efforts with someone who actually cares. If not the NRA then someone else friendly to our side.[:D]
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Paypal can KMA.

    Send a money order, no big deal.
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like PayPals "no gun" policy. Just another reason to hate that suckass place.

    www.paypalsucks.com


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  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses
    I like PayPals "no gun" policy. Just another reason to hate that suckass place.


    Even George Warshington once fought for the Brittische[8D]
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