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Armys handgun fails
JimmyJack
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Sig who beat out Glock, has failed.
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Any actual info or a report?
google:
https://taskandpurpose.com/army-modular-handgun-system-problems/
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-armys-new-handgun-already-has-some-serious-problems-2018-1
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/08/11/the-civilian-version-of-the-armys-new-handgun-is-having-firing-problems/
I'm guessing that SIG won't charge the US military extra when they add the "enhancement" to the pistols they have already sold them.
Neal
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2017/05/nj_state_police_sue_manufacturer_over_jammed_guns.html
Wow. That's ironic. Isn't NJ one of the states that requires that all new pistols pass a "drop test"?
I'm guessing that SIG won't charge the US military extra when they add the "enhancement" to the pistols they have already sold them.
Neal
NJSP didn't buy 320s, they bought 229s, then when those had FTF issues Sig sent them 229 legions, their top of the line and those has FTF problems. Ultimately NJSP went to Glocks.
lets buy american made ...i wonder if they don't keep changing standards so the senators buddy gets the money
Do you really have to wonder?[;)]
Sig who beat out Glock, has failed.
Sig did NOT beat Glock. The bafoons at the Army didn't complete their testing, and instead pushed forward and selected Sig. Yet another government failure.
Taxpayers lose again. And soldiers die. But, heck, Sunday is the Super Bowl!! And the military will be in attendance with a fly over and politicians will sleep well that night after a performance at Colosseum.
My Sig 229 Legion hasn't had ONE hiccup in over 700 rds.
Waiting until I have 1500 rds through it before it replaces my S&W M&P 9C as my EDC.
Some of you are old enough to remember the intense criticism Berretta received after it beat out all competition: Jams, frames crack, not made in USA, can fire when dropped, etc.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-armys-new-handgun-already-has-some-serious-problems-2018-1
Ha! That?s my brother in this pic!
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-armys-new-handgun-already-has-some-serious-problems-2018-1
Can you ask him for a review? I always like to hear things direct from the Soldier. Their opinion carries more weight than a talking head.
quote:Originally posted by JimmyJack
Sig who beat out Glock, has failed.
Sig did NOT beat Glock. The bafoons at the Army didn't complete their testing, and instead pushed forward and selected Sig. Yet another government failure.
Taxpayers lose again. And soldiers die. But, heck, Sunday is the Super Bowl!! And the military will be in attendance with a fly over and politicians will sleep well that night after a performance at Colosseum.
Did you bother to read the General Accountability Office decision of the Glock protest? Evidently not. I did out of curiosity since I am a retired Contracting Officer of the Army Contracting Command - Warren where the Request for Proposals was issued, proposals evaluated and the contract was awarded to Sig. Testing was done elsewhere and the results submitted to the Source Selection Team. The GAO sided with the Source Selection Authority (not a politician) that Sig had a slight technical advantage over Glock. Thus they were essentially almost equal but there was nothing in Glock's proposal or the evaluation that justified paying 37% more ($102M) to award the contract to Glock.
quote:Originally posted by DirtyDawg
quote:Originally posted by JimmyJack
Sig who beat out Glock, has failed.
Sig did NOT beat Glock. The bafoons at the Army didn't complete their testing, and instead pushed forward and selected Sig. Yet another government failure.
Taxpayers lose again. And soldiers die. But, heck, Sunday is the Super Bowl!! And the military will be in attendance with a fly over and politicians will sleep well that night after a performance at Colosseum.
Did you bother to read the General Accountability Office decision of the Glock protest? Evidently not. I did out of curiosity since I am a retired Contracting Officer of the Army Contracting Command - Warren where the Request for Proposals was issued, proposals evaluated and the contract was awarded to Sig. Testing was done elsewhere and the results submitted to the Source Selection Team. The GAO sided with the Source Selection Authority (not a politician) that Sig had a slight technical advantage over Glock. Thus they were essentially almost equal but there was nothing in Glock's proposal or the evaluation that justified paying 37% more ($102M) to award the contract to Glock.
Was the drop test really only landing directly on bore on landing perfectly flat on side? Seems a rather odd way to do things.
"We're not figuring out the next lunar landing. This is a pistol. Two years to test? At $17 million? You give me $17 million on a credit card, and I'll call Cabela's tonight, and I'll outfit every soldier, sailor, airman and Marine with a pistol for $17 million. And I'll get a discount on a bulk buy."
pretty sure he was talking about buying Glocks. [;)]