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So the NRA picks and chooses
nards444
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/rifle-pistol-association-president-skip-pro-gun-rally-article-1.1739917
Kind of why I have a hard time supporting the the sticker club (NRA) It doesnt give them the notoriety and press they desire
Kind of why I have a hard time supporting the the sticker club (NRA) It doesnt give them the notoriety and press they desire
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I agree with him. He wants to win over the undecided middle ground. Threats and pictures of Hitler will only alienate the undecided. Logical argument is more effective.
That I can see and seems more logical then the typical right wing pro gunner attack pattern that IMO adds fuel to the fire more than anything.
None the less you have important battle ground state with key legislation being fought and your absent? Ehh I dont know. Be like Tom brady not wanting to play against the Broncos in order to save his stats and to avoid getting bloody
On the right there is a discussion of tone and tenor. On the left, there are lies and deceit.
One seems more problematic that the other.
I am not so concerned about the 'typical rightwing pro-gunner attack pattern', as I am with the the usual leftwing anti-gunner rhetoric.
On the right there is a discussion of tone and tenor. On the left, there are lies and deceit.
One seems more problematic that the other.
I am too. But fighting fire with fire is not the best tool in the garden shed to use. Throwing up decit and BS back does nothing to help either.
I agree with him. He wants to win over the undecided middle ground. Threats and pictures of Hitler will only alienate the undecided. Logical argument is more effective.
I was there last February....I did not hear any threats.
Your profile says you are "out west". We deal with Cuomo daily. Please do not pretend to know what is going on here. Logic does not work. To succeed, we need to be louder, and a bigger pain in the * than the opposition
quote:Originally posted by capgun
I agree with him. He wants to win over the undecided middle ground. Threats and pictures of Hitler will only alienate the undecided. Logical argument is more effective.
I was there last February....I did not hear any threats.
Your profile says you are "out west". We deal with Cuomo daily. Please do not pretend to know what is going on here. Logic does not work. To succeed, we need to be louder, and a bigger pain in the * than the opposition
sucks but I think were going to lose until leadership swings to the right if it ever does.
The decision now has to be made whether or not to register AW in the next two weeks.
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
I am not so concerned about the 'typical rightwing pro-gunner attack pattern', as I am with the the usual leftwing anti-gunner rhetoric.
On the right there is a discussion of tone and tenor. On the left, there are lies and deceit.
One seems more problematic that the other.
I am too. But fighting fire with fire is not the best tool in the garden shed to use. Throwing up decit and BS back does nothing to help either.
I agree that fighting back with more lies and BS isn't going to do any good, but sometimes letting the pols know there could be a price to be paid isn't a bad thing.
We had a local lefty who thought going after our 2A rights every time she turned around was great fun. When a guy videotaped her hiding from a town hall she had scheduled and then cancelled because she was worried 'we' would show up, her impact was severely diminished.
And she knew people know where she lives.
I guess his sit at home and pout tatic may work better.
I have not heard any of what he claims going on at rallies either.
This does show a bigger problem however.
We have the problem here also.
One pro gun group downing another or kicking members out cause they are part of another group and such.
Its starting to look like being the head shot caller and getting donations is top priority over defending the 2A.
Much like the pro illegal, pro * rights, pro xxxxx groups, being on top means creating a fuss to fund your day job.
quote:Originally posted by capgun
I agree with him. He wants to win over the undecided middle ground. Threats and pictures of Hitler will only alienate the undecided. Logical argument is more effective.
I was there last February....I did not hear any threats.
Your profile says you are "out west". We deal with Cuomo daily. Please do not pretend to know what is going on here. Logic does not work. To succeed, we need to be louder, and a bigger pain in the * than the opposition
"Logic does not work. To succeed, we need to be louder, and a bigger pain in the * than the opposition" I disagree. I believe the important undecided people will more likely be persuaded with facts and logic than by a bunch of hysterical people trying to be a bigger pain in the * than the opposition.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
The sit at home tatic didn't work.
I guess his sit at home and pout tatic may work better.
I have not heard any of what he claims going on at rallies either.
This does show a bigger problem however.
We have the problem here also.
One pro gun group downing another or kicking members out cause they are part of another group and such.
Its starting to look like being the head shot caller and getting donations is top priority over defending the 2A.
Much like the pro illegal, pro * rights, pro xxxxx groups, being on top means creating a fuss to fund your day job.
Good point. But I also think its one those things of well we didnt think of it and arent the main act so we arent coming as well.