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We Will Not Obey!
watrulookinat
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I agree and am bound by the same oath.
u people are scary and must live in fantasyland.
Really......Komrade?
Please elucidate your learned position.
I can hardly wait.[:)]
Sounds good,but do the Majority feel the same way? I hope so!
In LEO circles, no.
Amongst the distinct minority with a "Peace Officer" mindset, I believe so.
Can't speak for the modern military, but I suspect that the percentages would be similar.
u people are scary and must live in fantasyland.
It's people like yourself that are scary.[;)]
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk
Sounds good,but do the Majority feel the same way? I hope so!
In LEO circles, no.
Amongst the distinct minority with a "Peace Officer" mindset, I believe so.
Can't speak for the modern military, but I suspect that the percentages would be similar.
I don't know where you get your presumption on the LEO's but in my experience--which is considerable with LEO's--the answer is a resounding YES to the oath keeper mindset. Post-Katrina, many local LEO's had their eyes opened to federal shenanigans and are leery of future escapades.
u people are scary and must live in fantasyland.
If you mean that I welcome the next revolution (if it is needed) to secure freedom for my children and grandchildren makes me scary, the I guess I am scary as friggen hell!
20 years ago if you would have asked me if there would be another revolution in my lifetime I would have said "no possible way".
If you ask me the same question today I will say "it is inevitable"! And I can assure you I will be in the group fireing the first shots!
(If you cannot guess I am very pizzed of about the way this country is today!)
u people are scary and must live in fantasyland.
What do you Martians believe?
Nothing to argue with there.
I agree and am bound by the same oath.
Me too Capt...me too.
Sounds good,but do the Majority feel the same way? I hope so!
We don't need the majority...we only need the few that have the heart to keep their oaths. 3% of active gun owners would be more than a 10 million man army...
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk
Sounds good,but do the Majority feel the same way? I hope so!
In LEO circles, no.
Amongst the distinct minority with a "Peace Officer" mindset, I believe so.
Can't speak for the modern military, but I suspect that the percentages would be similar.
I don't know where you get your presumption on the LEO's but in my experience--which is considerable with LEO's--the answer is a resounding YES to the oath keeper mindset. Post-Katrina, many local LEO's had their eyes opened to federal shenanigans and are leery of future escapades.
It isn't a presumption, it is based on a career in the profession and is an informed observation, with daily interaction with policing, local, state and federal.
There is a distinct difference in "mindset" between those who consider themselves Law Enforcement Officers and those who adopt a Peace Officer outlook and stance.
One group swarms among the populous and enforces law, simply because they can and because "it is the law". Not much regard is given to the justness of the law, or its application, simply that it has been "violated".
The other group takes a more measured and discretionary approach to policing; keeping in mind the proper role of police in a free society and judiciously enforcing "just" laws, as necessary, to keep the peace and remove the predatory from among the citizenry.
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk
Sounds good,but do the Majority feel the same way? I hope so!
We don't need the majority...we only need the few that have the heart to keep their oaths. 3% of active gun owners would be more than a 10 million man army...
I see you failed math in high school. 3% of active gun owners = 10 million people? So there's 330 million active gun owners in America?
10,000,000/0.03 = ~333,000,000
That's pretty amazing considering the entire population of the United States is only 305 million.
Well let the chaos happen and see what really happens. Like I am going to believe that it Couldn't happen again. Get real.
It could and it likely will happen again.
The question is, what do we do when it does happen?
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk
Sounds good,but do the Majority feel the same way? I hope so!
We don't need the majority...we only need the few that have the heart to keep their oaths. 3% of active gun owners would be more than a 10 million man army...
I see you failed math in high school. 3% of active gun owners = 10 million people? So there's 330 million active gun owners in America?
10,000,000/0.03 = ~333,000,000
That's pretty amazing considering the entire population of the United States is only 305 million.
My mistake[:I]...it's more on the lines of a 2.5 million man army, at 3% of current gun owners (and this is on the very conservative side). ...I got some different numbers mixed up in my head.
quote:Originally posted by Ramtinxxl
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk
Sounds good,but do the Majority feel the same way? I hope so!
In LEO circles, no.
Amongst the distinct minority with a "Peace Officer" mindset, I believe so.
Can't speak for the modern military, but I suspect that the percentages would be similar.
I don't know where you get your presumption on the LEO's but in my experience--which is considerable with LEO's--the answer is a resounding YES to the oath keeper mindset. Post-Katrina, many local LEO's had their eyes opened to federal shenanigans and are leery of future escapades.
It isn't a presumption, it is based on a career in the profession and is an informed observation, with daily interaction with policing, local, state and federal.
There is a distinct difference in "mindset" between those who consider themselves Law Enforcement Officers and those who adopt a Peace Officer outlook and stance.
One group swarms among the populous and enforces law, simply because they can and because "it is the law". Not much regard is given to the justness of the law, or its application, simply that it has been "violated".
The other group takes a more measured and discretionary approach to policing; keeping in mind the proper role of police in a free society and judiciously enforcing "just" laws, as necessary, to keep the peace and remove the predatory from among the citizenry.
Point taken--and I agree with your premise. I guess my dealings are mostly with the more seasoned and thus more thoughtful lot. Unfortunately, I agree with your assessment on the whole.
We the people will restore this great nation and the freedom and liberty it as a Republic represents and as the Constitution of such guarantees.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Considering all that stuff in the video happened under a Repub Admin. that is scary. Just goes to show you that if your loyalty lies with a political party or ideology you are part of the machine and not to be trusted as I believe this is a response to the current Dem Admin. more so than a honest statement of patriotism.
Then you fail in the comprehension area, miserably.
This is about the Constitution and the Republic and about an oath, taken to support and defend same.
It isn't about either political party, since both wings of the Globalist-Collectivist party are equally guilty in the area of anti-Constitutional action.
It is becoming readily apparent to many, that government in general has ill intent for the future of this once Constitutional Republic.
Originally posted by War Pig Actual
Considering all that stuff in the video happened under a Repub Admin. that is scary. Just goes to show you that if your loyalty lies with a political party or ideology you are part of the machine and not to be trusted as I believe this is a response to the current Dem Admin. more so than a honest statement of patriotism.
Then you fail in the comprehension area, miserably.
This is about the Constitution and the Republic and about an oath, taken to support and defend same.
It isn't about either political party, since both wings of the Globalist-Collectivist party are equally guilty in the area of anti-Constitutional action.
It is becoming readily apparent to many, that government in general has ill intent for the future of this once Constitutional Republic.
Apparently you missed the reading comprehension exam as well, becuase my whole statement was about NOT following party loyalty. And also, this video should have came out years ago right after Katrina. As it looks right now, it's just right-wing propagansa to appease to the anrgy white male types.
quote:quote:
Originally posted by War Pig Actual
Considering all that stuff in the video happened under a Repub Admin. that is scary. Just goes to show you that if your loyalty lies with a political party or ideology you are part of the machine and not to be trusted as I believe this is a response to the current Dem Admin. more so than a honest statement of patriotism.
Then you fail in the comprehension area, miserably.
This is about the Constitution and the Republic and about an oath, taken to support and defend same.
It isn't about either political party, since both wings of the Globalist-Collectivist party are equally guilty in the area of anti-Constitutional action.
It is becoming readily apparent to many, that government in general has ill intent for the future of this once Constitutional Republic.
Apparently you missed the reading comprehension exam as well, becuase my whole statement was about NOT following party loyalty. And also, this video should have came out years ago right after Katrina. As it looks right now, it's just right-wing propagansa to appease to the anrgy white male types.
I would suggest, as part of your comprehension exam, that you visit their site, read a bit and watch some of the videos posted there, which are just as critical of Republican action as Democrat.
The focus is not on party sir, but on the Constitution, which transcends party-line and ideology.
There are some pretty direct ones there, such as:
Perhaps you should step back and assess the information objectively.
Just a thought.....
Considering the number of guns and the amount of ammunition already in the possession of the citizenry, the logistics involved in an all-out total confiscation would probably be more than our government could handle, considering the way that they handle everything else they touch. Especially if only 330,000 of the owners resisted the action, much less a million or more.
We the people will restore this great nation and the freedom and liberty it as a Republic represents and as the Constitution of such guarantees.
We the people will restore this great nation and the freedom and liberty it as a Republic represents and as the Constitution of such guarantees.
Possible, but unlikely given the ignorance of most.
It is critical to realize that most Americans not only do not understand freedom, but they are clueless about the Republic and the Constitution that created it.
I fear that most Americans are perfectly okay with a predatory, intrusive government and that they would fear to live in a true free-society.
Oh well, the ball will have to be carried by we few who are awake and aware, if and when that dreaded day arrives.
quote:Originally posted by lvpatt
u people are scary and must live in fantasyland.
If you mean that I welcome the next revolution (if it is needed) to secure freedom for my children and grandchildren makes me scary, the I guess I am scary as friggen hell!
20 years ago if you would have asked me if there would be another revolution in my lifetime I would have said "no possible way".
If you ask me the same question today I will say "it is inevitable"! And I can assure you I will be in the group fireing the first shots!
(If you cannot guess I am very pizzed of about the way this country is today!)
Understandably, but whos really to blame for that?????
u people are scary and must live in fantasyland.
You havent seen nothing yet!!!! there are some on here that make you just sit back and say WTH?????[;)]
Some of my colleagues and bosses think the same of me.
On the one hand, I am glad to be such a strict constructionist that some of the other cops think I am odd. On the other hand, I wish more of the cops held similar beliefs.
quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
quote:Originally posted by lvpatt
u people are scary and must live in fantasyland.
If you mean that I welcome the next revolution (if it is needed) to secure freedom for my children and grandchildren makes me scary, the I guess I am scary as friggen hell!
20 years ago if you would have asked me if there would be another revolution in my lifetime I would have said "no possible way".
If you ask me the same question today I will say "it is inevitable"! And I can assure you I will be in the group fireing the first shots!
(If you cannot guess I am very pizzed of about the way this country is today!)
Understandably, but whos really to blame for that?????
The government as a whole!
But the last 4 months of being under Obamanation has put it over the top for many many reasons!
And if the people of this country do not stand up to take this country back very soon we will no longer be a free country, we will turn into a socialist country!
I feel we are past the point of bargening in order to bring back the constitution and it is very close to time for a full scale fight to regain our rights that our founding fathers wanted us to have!
The time for states to start seceeding from the union is now!
I am a little concerned by the quality of some of our new starters. Did we lower our standards? A Brady sleeper cell, perhaps? Or just typical products of our public school system.
Let me know when you four or five guys start the revolution....I would like to watch it on the news....especially when you all muster, though I have already seen you guys in the movie " The Russians are Coming! The Russians are Coming!...[:D]
I doubt it. You will miss the news because you will be occupied licking your masters' boots.