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Not "safe" in the safe.
bob 5150
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2 months ago I purchased a Winchester Bicentennial 30/30 from a seller here on gun broker. When I got the gun I gave it a quick once over. It looked good. Tonight, I was cleaning up a few guns and decided to take good hard look at it.....I noticed a few spots creeping up from under the forearm. Here is what I found[V][:(!].....
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Never had this problem in my safe before, I have a golden rod and a number of dessicant packs. So I find it very hard to believe that this from my safe after only a couple months of storage. The seller stated that the rifle was NIB which you all know means never used. I don't blame the seller at all. In fact, the rest of the rifle is in perfect condition (from the outside). After I recieved it, I posted a thread on the "ask the experts" side of the house as to what to do to take care of it so it holds it's value. Many said "nothing, leave it alone". Well, this is the result of leaving it alone. Learn from my misfortune, don't buy a gun to "collect", put it in the safe and ignore it.
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Never had this problem in my safe before, I have a golden rod and a number of dessicant packs. So I find it very hard to believe that this from my safe after only a couple months of storage. The seller stated that the rifle was NIB which you all know means never used. I don't blame the seller at all. In fact, the rest of the rifle is in perfect condition (from the outside). After I recieved it, I posted a thread on the "ask the experts" side of the house as to what to do to take care of it so it holds it's value. Many said "nothing, leave it alone". Well, this is the result of leaving it alone. Learn from my misfortune, don't buy a gun to "collect", put it in the safe and ignore it.
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Ive seen odd stuff like this happen before. A buddy had a pistol that had a perfect rust spot of his fingerprint on the slide right after he got it. No other spot rusted on that gun though.
Maybe someone (his ffl, your ffl, you, him) ate some fries or something nasty that was on their hands when they touched it.
Ive seen odd stuff like this happen before. A buddy had a pistol that had a perfect rust spot of his fingerprint on the slide right after he got it. No other spot rusted on that gun though.
I dont think that was it. These spots are from just under/top of the forarm right infront of the reciever. In the pics the forarm is slid forward towards the business end of the rifle. Crappy pics
thanks for sharing if you come up with a answer post it please
It's hard to see but that rust looks like it started well before two months ago. Most likely, water, soda,coffee, etc. was dripped on it some time ago and settled between the forearm and barrel where it wasn't noticed.
Hey Spider! You actually "helped me" buy this rifle, kinda sorta. Your probably right, gonna finish taking it apart and checking it tonight. Tryng to calm down a bit first.
I would go along with finger print / touching as suggested above, acid in your sweat. I have a buddy by mistake take the finish off a shotgun barrel . He left blood on it after a hunt did not clean for several days.
thanks for sharing if you come up with a answer post it please
Will do. Same thing happemed to my 870...deer hunting during a snow storm, soaking wet gloves.....rusting right through the finish.
Capt. Jack Sparrow.
Spray your gun down with pure silicone and then slip a silicone impregnated sock over it.
did that the night i got it.
dont ask me how I know this, but cat piss will take the bluing off anything!
[:D][:D][:D] Oh Lord. I'm sorry I'm laughing but that was funny. What did you do? Hold it over the fire arm and squeeze it?
dont ask me how I know this, but cat piss will take the bluing off anything!
I had a cat piss on a very expensive Orvis bamboo fly rod. We are talking mega expensive here. I didn't notice it for a couple of weeks and when I did the finish was ruined and bamboo was stained. I had the rod out of the case repairing the wrappings on one of the guides and hadn't had time to finish it. That cat come up missing shortly after that.[:0]
Its a shame that rust on your 30-30. That looks like more than surface rust. Good luck repairing it.
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
dont ask me how I know this, but cat piss will take the bluing off anything!
I had a cat piss on a very expensive Orvis bamboo fly rod. We are talking mega expensive here. I didn't notice it for a couple of weeks and when I did the finish was ruined and bamboo was stained. I had the rod out of the case repairing the wrappings on one of the guides and hadn't had time to finish it. That cat come up missing shortly after that.[:0]
Its a shame that rust on your 30-30. That looks like more than surface rust. Good luck repairing it.
Repair? Send it Winchester? Would EVERYTHING need reblued so it all matches?
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
dont ask me how I know this, but cat piss will take the bluing off anything!
I had a cat piss on a very expensive Orvis bamboo fly rod. We are talking mega expensive here. I didn't notice it for a couple of weeks and when I did the finish was ruined and bamboo was stained. I had the rod out of the case repairing the wrappings on one of the guides and hadn't had time to finish it. That cat come up missing shortly after that.[:0]
Its a shame that rust on your 30-30. That looks like more than surface rust. Good luck repairing it.
I'm not blaming you for the cat I am just curious was it your cat, stray or a neighbor's? One of of my two cats pissed in a sports bag left on one of my Marshall Bass Cabinets and some ran down the mesh grill and I beat one pretty hard on the rear end but may have had the wrong cat.
quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
dont ask me how I know this, but cat piss will take the bluing off anything!
I had a cat piss on a very expensive Orvis bamboo fly rod. We are talking mega expensive here. I didn't notice it for a couple of weeks and when I did the finish was ruined and bamboo was stained. I had the rod out of the case repairing the wrappings on one of the guides and hadn't had time to finish it. That cat come up missing shortly after that.[:0]
Its a shame that rust on your 30-30. That looks like more than surface rust. Good luck repairing it.
I'm not blaming you for the cat I am just curious was it your cat, stray or a neighbor's? One of of my two cats pissed in a sports bag left on one of my Marshall Bass Cabinets and some ran down the mesh grill and I beat one pretty hard on the rear end but may have had the wrong cat.
It was my ex-cat. Never will I own one again.
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
dont ask me how I know this, but cat piss will take the bluing off anything!
I had a cat piss on a very expensive Orvis bamboo fly rod. We are talking mega expensive here. I didn't notice it for a couple of weeks and when I did the finish was ruined and bamboo was stained. I had the rod out of the case repairing the wrappings on one of the guides and hadn't had time to finish it. That cat come up missing shortly after that.[:0]
Its a shame that rust on your 30-30. That looks like more than surface rust. Good luck repairing it.
I'm not blaming you for the cat I am just curious was it your cat, stray or a neighbor's? One of of my two cats pissed in a sports bag left on one of my Marshall Bass Cabinets and some ran down the mesh grill and I beat one pretty hard on the rear end but may have had the wrong cat.
It was my ex-cat. Never will I own one again.
I have an ex cat. [xx(]
Is it just cosmetic? Or deeper?
quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
dont ask me how I know this, but cat piss will take the bluing off anything!
I had a cat piss on a very expensive Orvis bamboo fly rod. We are talking mega expensive here. I didn't notice it for a couple of weeks and when I did the finish was ruined and bamboo was stained. I had the rod out of the case repairing the wrappings on one of the guides and hadn't had time to finish it. That cat come up missing shortly after that.[:0]
Its a shame that rust on your 30-30. That looks like more than surface rust. Good luck repairing it.
I'm not blaming you for the cat I am just curious was it your cat, stray or a neighbor's? One of of my two cats pissed in a sports bag left on one of my Marshall Bass Cabinets and some ran down the mesh grill and I beat one pretty hard on the rear end but may have had the wrong cat.
It was my ex-cat. Never will I own one again.
I have an ex cat. [xx(]
Is it just cosmetic? Or deeper?
Not sure if you was talking to me about the rifle or the other guy with the pissing cat issue .....but mine is deeper, there are actuall pits in the barrel and magazine tube
I was asking about the gun. That really sucks a lot.
Depending on the year made, (post '64) the receiver won't blue the same as the barrel. From the pic, it looks like the receiver was not blue to start.
Depending on the year made, (post '64) the receiver won't blue the same as the barrel. From the pic, it looks like the receiver was not blue to start.
Sorry, that last post was a mistake. Yes it's post 64. It is a Bicentennial Commemorative (1976), with a pewter (I think) receiver. Gonna try to call Winchester some day.
rust does not take long. But I agree at this point I dont know how much the seller could be responsible, nor could you definiteively prove it. Most hot blues cost less than 200 bucks for a whole rifle, small part like this probably cheaper. Or take the hit and trade it in.
Did it again.....previous post mistake.
I don't blame the seller at all. In fact I did see a little of the spot when I first received it and it looked like it was the original grease/packing preservative that was on other places on the gun. Just so happened that these spot were rust. So I don't believe the seller is to blame what so ever......