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S&W 629 Real Cheap...

retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
edited September 2010 in General Discussion
I received an eMail recently from another GB member with these pics.
I researched and found Internet postings of this gun back to Nov'09...
But none on GB Forums so Here they are...

Internet comments indicate that the unlucky shooter was using "Cheap Chinese Ammo"...
quote:A guy came into the PD [no reference as to where] the other day to ask a favor.
He had a S&W 629 (44 Mag.) that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range.
He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new ammo, (Chinese made), and the gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice *.
When the tweety birds cleared, this is what he saw ...

Bet he never uses Chinese made Ammo again!

Not sure if this was caused by "Cheap Chinese Ammo" or results from poor reloading... but, in either case... a dead gun.

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Comments

  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    uh-huh, blame the Chinks for a double charge...that he or his buddy Bubba did...


    yep.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Been on here before, guy misread his reloading scale and put in to large of a charge.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    ...nothin' a little duct tape wouldn't take care of...
  • barbwiredbarbwired Member Posts: 7,924 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    That ain't going to buff out.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dang, I have that same gun. Wild how it took out the rounds next to it.
  • GashaulerGashauler Member Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just out of curiousity exactly how much powder would you have to stuff into that shell to get it to blow up like that. I have seen pictures of blown up guns before but that is the first time I have ever seen one that blew off the whole top of the cyclinder (fired round plus the ones on either side).
  • Sig220_Ruger77Sig220_Ruger77 Member Posts: 12,754 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That sure as heck ain't no cheap ammo. Nice brass cases and the biggest giveaway is that bullet. [;)]

    Jon
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    here we go again[:)]
  • CHEVELLE427CHEVELLE427 Member Posts: 6,750
    edited November -1
    look another non taurus

    SW44kaboom.jpg
  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I didn't know the Chinks are putting hornady XTP's in their ammo now.[:)]

    Agree with the others, Reloading gone bad. I don't think you can put that much powder in there to do that unless you used the Wrong powder. I know the loads I make leaves very little room in the case and I doubt if I filled it full it would blow the top of my revolver(Ruger Super Redhawk) anyway.
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The frame on the Smith's always looked a little too thin to me.[:D][;)]

    I don't buy "cheap chinese ammo", or factory ammo, period.[^]
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • CHEVELLE427CHEVELLE427 Member Posts: 6,750
    edited November -1
    i dont care for that flash grove that cuts into the under side of the back strap.
    look at your smith and see how deep the cut is if any (yet)
  • barbwiredbarbwired Member Posts: 7,924 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't those Dealer cut away models sell for a lot of cash?
  • CHEVELLE427CHEVELLE427 Member Posts: 6,750
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by barbwired
    Don't those Dealer cut away models sell for a lot of cash?


    cause there made the hard way
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
    i dont care for that flash grove that cuts into the under side of the back strap.
    look at your smith and see how deep the cut is if any (yet)
    If that gun is for real...any gap "cutting" on the back strap had nothing to do with the result IMO
  • txlawdogtxlawdog Member Posts: 10,039 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is all a lie, glocks are the only guns that kaboom!
  • CHEVELLE427CHEVELLE427 Member Posts: 6,750
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
    i dont care for that flash grove that cuts into the under side of the back strap.
    look at your smith and see how deep the cut is if any (yet)
    If that gun is for real...any gap "cutting" on the back strap had nothing to do with the result IMO

    didn't mean that might have caused it just an FYI the gun cuts a line and i have seen on newer ones a piece of steel insert has been placed there now
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
    I didn't know the Chinks are putting Hornady XTP's in their ammo now.[:)] Agree with the others, Reloading gone bad...
    The MORE I look at it... the more I agree a Real BAD case of poor reloading technique or the incorrect use of powder... as already pointed out.

    Too bad as well... could have been a great gun for a LONG time...

    Showed these pics to a couple of the engineer's at work today...
    The consensus is that the triple Ka-Boom obviously had 2x to 3x the normal recoil, but the forces was concentrated and exerted up and backwards, thus helping to hold the recoiling barrel down...

    Had the cylinder NOT released, the full recoil resulting from the 'triple' Ka-Boom probably would have forced the barrel backwards quickly and forcefully enough to have taken out the shooter as well... Or, at a minimum, put him in the hospital with a serious head injury. Lucky for him that the cylinder 'let go' as it did, dispersing with the resulting recoil...

    I don't think I would have been happy 'bout shooting in the range stall to either side... I'm sure the shrapnel went sideways as well as up...

    At least all but the port side 'Hornady XTP'... Looks like it lodged in the crescent left in the cylinder chamber mouth...
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
    i dont care for that flash grove that cuts into the under side of the back strap.
    look at your smith and see how deep the cut is if any (yet)
    If that gun is for real...any gap "cutting" on the back strap had nothing to do with the result IMO

    didn't mean that might have caused it just an FYI the gun cuts a line and i have seen on newer ones a piece of steel insert has been placed there now

    That was a real problem with the .357 Maximum too.
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fideau
    quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
    i dont care for that flash grove that cuts into the under side of the back strap.
    look at your smith and see how deep the cut is if any (yet)
    If that gun is for real...any gap "cutting" on the back strap had nothing to do with the result IMO

    didn't mean that might have caused it just an FYI the gun cuts a line and i have seen on newer ones a piece of steel insert has been placed there now

    That was a real problem with the .357 Maximum too.
    Dan Wessons did have this problem in .357 max but did the gun have any documented failures like the 629 in the OP?....I havent heard of any
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never heard of any failure, just severe cutting. Saw it on a S&W. It didn't take a lot of firing to do it. Don't know how far it would go or if anyone actually tested it but I didn't like the way it was looking. Wasn't my gun, gunsmith showed it to me.
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