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UNITE OR DIE

kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
Overcome political boundries... Tell GM and ForgE and Dodge they better poop on NAFTA and better start demanding American supplys! Americans you BETTER start looking after your own * and you neighors' *! You are being overrun, outwitted and sold out!


I'm serious as hell is real! I AM DEMANDING CHANGE! AND ACCEPT NO COMPROMISE! I WANT WHATS BEST FOR MY COUNTRY! Being a firsthand witness the poop that is taking place in todays time IS BAD FOR MY COUNTRY!! AND YOU BETTER CHANGE IT!!!! THERE ARE TOO MANY OF ME!
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  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,036 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I ain't gonna bump no more with no big fat women. Don
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  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    I ain't gonna bump no more with no big fat women. Don


    any effort you wish to make on the American working man or womens back is fine with me, don.
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  • bartobarto Member Posts: 4,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    They just don't make meds like they usta.
    [:(]barto[:(]
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  • wanted manwanted man Member Posts: 3,276
    edited November -1
    The boy may be "off his meds" again, but, as usual he has legitimate point(s). I know, you're gonna say, "Don't encourage him!" *LOL*, BUT, let him ramble until the peak wears off this particular rage and whether he's able to succinctly articulate it or not, there will be grains of truth and maybe even some "wisdom" in what he says.
    It's his thread, let's see what he sews (Sows) *LOL*
    Okay, Don, your turn...........[:)]
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  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,036 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wanted man
    Okay, Don, your turn...........[:)]


    Well I do have to agree with the part about looking at your neighbors *, provided she is worth looking at. Don
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you get rid of the UAW it will go a long way to getting things real. Workers get what they can. The union protects low quality workers, just like the modern school does.

    It would be better to tell the boards of the mid-sized-three to all resign. Management is fully responsible for the profits and direction of a company. The tiny-three's combined management is fully responsible for the current situation.

    Parts are going to come from across the world. That is not a bad thing for the USA. We need to be there firstist with the mostest.
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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
    Overcome political boundries... Tell GM and ForgE and Dodge they better poop on NAFTA and better start demanding American supplys! Americans you BETTER start looking after your own * and you neighors' *! You are being overrun, outwitted and sold out!


    I'm serious as hell is real! I AM DEMANDING CHANGE! AND ACCEPT NO COMPROMISE! I WANT WHATS BEST FOR MY COUNTRY! Being a firsthand witness the poop that is taking place in todays time IS BAD FOR MY COUNTRY!! AND YOU BETTER CHANGE IT!!!! THERE ARE TOO MANY OF ME!


    Good concept. "Unite or die". Only problem is that without some central, unifying force (national organization, one powerful leader, etc) all the citizens will not present a united front. And since single citizens have little or no clout with politicians, this means that the major power/force that millions of citizens COULD have, if they were united, will instead be disipated and unnoticed by the politicians. And all this unifying ain't gonna be handed to you for free. It will take organized, hard work along with funds.

    Once you aknowledge this fact, then the need for that national, unifying force, to allow the united citizens to battle such things as NAFTA, is obvious.

    THIS IS ALSO THE RATIONAL FOR HAVING SUCH NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS FOR GUN RIGHTS SUCH AS THE GOA, NRA, Etc.
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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
    If you get rid of the UAW it will go a long way to getting things real. Workers get what they can. The union protects low quality workers, just like the modern school does.

    It would be better to tell the boards of the mid-sized-three to all resign. Management is fully responsible for the profits and direction of a company. The tiny-three's combined management is fully responsible for the current situation.

    Parts are going to come from across the world. That is not a bad thing for the USA. We need to be there firstist with the mostest.


    I do not support greedy, disruptive or just plain bad unions. However, we have a good union at my workplace. And there are other good unions. Our union leaders cannot pick and chose which workers to try and protect. If they were allowed to do so, they just might decide not to protect a good worker simply because they may not like that worker. So along with that, I personally have seen them save the jobs of good workers that were about to be shafted by management.
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  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    I'm surprised their unions don't do just as our unions did here in the mining industry. In the 80's we got to vote on something called the "right to work" law, which would've enabled the company to hire non-union people to work right alongside of union people. Well, it got defeated by a large margin, so the two mining companies closed their doors, merged, and re-opened as entirely non-union.

    Not to sure our union leaders weren't crooked anyway. It always struck me as odd that they would encourage little wildcate strikes that would last only a week or two, then we'd return after gaining nothing, but the union officials would all soon buy new vans, motorcycles, acreage, ect.
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  • wanted manwanted man Member Posts: 3,276
    edited November -1
    tr fox said, "I do not support greedy, disruptive or just plain bad unions. However, we have a good union at my workplace. And there are other good unions. Our union leaders cannot pick and chose which workers to try and protect. If they were allowed to do so, they just might decide not to protect a good worker simply because they may not like that worker. So along with that, I personally have seen them save the jobs of good workers that were about to be shafted by management.
    And I have to agree with him, as I have seen FAR MORE honest, hard working mens'/womens' jobs saved than slackers'. Duly recognized is the fact that any number of Unions have become the 500 lb Gorilla in any company's labor battles. BUT, bear in mind what usually caused these Unions to come about in the first place! Had business owners had the MORAL CONSCIENCE to pay decent wages, offer humane working conditions, etc in the first place, chances are NO given union would have ever been born. [;)] I'd be the first one to say, "Throw 'em in jail", anytime a union official is convicted of wrongdoing in office, BTW! So, how about the companies and the ENTIRE FIRMS they hire to carry out their union busting tactics, frequently violating peoples'/workers' Civil Rights?
    spryor, IIRC There are shops/companies where union and non-union employees work side by side and guess what? The non-union folks, who don't pay dues, have NO obligation(s) to support the union in any way have enjoyed the same pay, benefits and "protection(s)" as the union people.[:)]

    plumber, I too, wish NAFTA had never been conceived! Fact of the matter IS, American industry CANNOT survive without IMPORTED raw materials. However, if all those who hold/hels union jobs would insist on BUYING union products, WHENEVER POSSIBLE, that would go a long way in helping keep "American" jobs in America.Log onto a UAW website and check on their "Union Label" Program [;)]
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  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    quote:
    spryor, IIRC There are shops/companies where union and non-union employees work side by side and guess what? The non-union folks, who don't pay dues, have NO obligation(s) to support the union in any way have enjoyed the same pay, benefits and "protection(s)" as the union people.[:)]

    I was and still am in strong opposition to that. After the mines went non-union I went to work there as a contractor. Basically doing the same work for half the money.
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