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Am I a bad person?
competentone
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I've heard a number of the parents whose children died in the Sandy Hook shooting who are now espousing extreme left political views while calling for the destruction of the 2nd Amendment.
I'll guess their extreme leftist political philosophy and anti-Second Amendment stance was something they held long before their children were murdered by Lanza, but I still find myself being repulsed by their willingness to politicize their children's deaths the way I've seen some of them do.
One would think a grieving parent would tell anyone pushing a political agenda, who wanted their support because of their child's death, to just "Go away!"
I'm really appalled at the attempt to apply "collective guilt" to all firearm owners because of the actions of one person.
I find the attempts to suggest that "if-you-don't-support-my-anti-Second-Amendment-political-agenda, you-support-the-murder-of-my-child" position to be a disgustingly irrational (and rude) argument.
I want to forgive them for their irrationality while under the emotional strain they are feeling over the death of their child, but I'm really finding myself losing sympathy for them when I see them "grandstanding" on their children's graves pushing their leftist politics. I find it to be just sickening behavior.
I'll guess their extreme leftist political philosophy and anti-Second Amendment stance was something they held long before their children were murdered by Lanza, but I still find myself being repulsed by their willingness to politicize their children's deaths the way I've seen some of them do.
One would think a grieving parent would tell anyone pushing a political agenda, who wanted their support because of their child's death, to just "Go away!"
I'm really appalled at the attempt to apply "collective guilt" to all firearm owners because of the actions of one person.
I find the attempts to suggest that "if-you-don't-support-my-anti-Second-Amendment-political-agenda, you-support-the-murder-of-my-child" position to be a disgustingly irrational (and rude) argument.
I want to forgive them for their irrationality while under the emotional strain they are feeling over the death of their child, but I'm really finding myself losing sympathy for them when I see them "grandstanding" on their children's graves pushing their leftist politics. I find it to be just sickening behavior.
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Got to say though, it is a good movie. [:D][:p]
Happiness is a warm gun.
Too old to live...too young to die...
Why don't we start protesting outside pharmacies for what drug dealers do? Why don't we protest at car dealerships for what drunk drivers do? Because we do not have a political agenda to drive down someone's throat.
Since Lanza is dead they don't have anything to focus their grief on but the instrument he used. Its also very likely that anti 2nd folks have contacted them asking for support for their cause since grieving parents make for good photo ops.
Bingo. You beat me on this response. They need a scapegoat for blame. The perpetrator is dead, the only remaining scapegoat is the weapon used.
No, you are not a bad person at all. You are simply tired of being blamed for what others have done.
I think you have something there.
"Collective guilt and punishment" is something that has always annoyed me. In school, I remember having some teachers who would punish the whole class because of the misbehavior of one student. Even as a child (6-7 years old) I remember thinking how unfair it was (and no, I wasn't the one who had misbehaved).
quote:Originally posted by jeffb1911
No, you are not a bad person at all. You are simply tired of being blamed for what others have done.
I think you have something there.
"Collective guilt and punishment" is something that has always annoyed me. In school, I remember having some teachers who would punish the whole class because of the misbehavior of one student. Even as a child (6-7 years old) I remember thinking how unfair it was (and no, I wasn't the one who had misbehaved).
Collective guilt and punishment is used by communistic, socialistic and Military establishments. The military will punish not only the offender, but the squad, platoon, barracks, regiment and battalion for the "offense" of one soldier improperly polishing his belt buckle or making his bed. There's a reason for it. You may not agree with or understand it, which is fine, but there are valid arguments on both sides.
I have lost a child. The pain is beyond comprehension. I literally do not remember anything but zombie like behavior for over a year after Peter's death. It was like being dead inside. I could never have done a TV interview at Peter's grave site because I could not have stopped crying long enough to be coherent. I cannot understand this behavior. If this is the loonie left in action than they care far more for their political agenda than they care for their children.[V]
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
Our culture has changed so much, with so many wanting their 15 minutes of fame, their time before the cameras, their faces on the TV news.
I have lost a child. The pain is beyond comprehension. I literally do not remember anything but zombie like behavior for over a year after Peter's death. It was like being dead inside. I could never have done a TV interview at Peter's grave site because I could not have stopped crying long enough to be coherent. I cannot understand this behavior. If this is the loonie left in action than they care far more for their political agenda than they care for their children.[V]
+1000
While I have no children, my response would be just as you described.
I have never understood these people appearing on camera over a child's death to be honest.
UNTIL I came to the same conclusion as you did.
15 minutes of fame, and possible hopes for making some coin.
Simply disgusting IMHO.[xx(]
one I am going to really pizz people off with
"if you don't support the 2nd ammendment..please practice felatio(sp?) so you don't polute the gene pool"
I bet I get a lot of funny looks with that one[}:)][:D]
I've heard a number of the parents whose children died in the Sandy Hook shooting who are now espousing extreme left political views while calling for the destruction of the 2nd Amendment.
I'll guess their extreme leftist political philosophy and anti-Second Amendment stance was something they held long before their children were murdered by Lanza, but I still find myself being repulsed by their willingness to politicize their children's deaths the way I've seen some of them do.
One would think a grieving parent would tell anyone pushing a political agenda, who wanted their support because of their child's death, to just "Go away!"
I'm really appalled at the attempt to apply "collective guilt" to all firearm owners because of the actions of one person.
I find the attempts to suggest that "if-you-don't-support-my-anti-Second-Amendment-political-agenda, you-support-the-murder-of-my-child" position to be a disgustingly irrational (and rude) argument.
I want to forgive them for their irrationality while under the emotional strain they are feeling over the death of their child, but I'm really finding myself losing sympathy for them when I see them "grandstanding" on their children's graves pushing their leftist politics. I find it to be just sickening behavior.
+1
I am having a pard make me some new bumper stickers
one I am going to really pizz people off with
"if you don't support the 2nd ammendment..please practice felatio(sp?) so you don't polute the gene pool"
I bet I get a lot of funny looks with that one[}:)][:D]
Justin, have your friend make 2 of those stickers and I'll buy 1 from you...I haven't been allowed access to t he "bumper sticker" maker at my new job yet [:(]
Last night the third public hearing was held at Newtown High School. The focus of this hearing was supposed to be school safety but again the focus is guns, nothing to do with school safety. They don't like it when I suggest that we should look at school safety today and we can debate guns tomorrow. These sickos are thrilled beyond belief that this tragedy occurred.
quote:Originally posted by JustC
I am having a pard make me some new bumper stickers
one I am going to really pizz people off with
"if you don't support the 2nd ammendment..please practice felatio(sp?) so you don't polute the gene pool"
I bet I get a lot of funny looks with that one[}:)][:D]
Justin, have your friend make 2 of those stickers and I'll buy 1 from you...I haven't been allowed access to t he "bumper sticker" maker at my new job yet [:(]
will do[;)]
Our culture has changed so much, with so many wanting their 15 minutes of fame, their time before the cameras, their faces on the TV news.
I have lost a child. The pain is beyond comprehension. I literally do not remember anything but zombie like behavior for over a year after Peter's death. It was like being dead inside. I could never have done a TV interview at Peter's grave site because I could not have stopped crying long enough to be coherent. I cannot understand this behavior. If this is the loonie left in action than they care far more for their political agenda than they care for their children.[V]
My condolences.
I have to believe that I would behave exactle as you described. I doubt I would have talked to anyone outside of immediate family.....and certainly NOT the press.
The military will punish not only the offender, but the squad, platoon, barracks, regiment and battalion for the "offense" of one soldier improperly polishing his belt buckle or making his bed. There's a reason for it. You may not agree with or understand it, which is fine, but there are valid arguments on both sides.Collective punishment does work in a military environment, but the problem is that nowadays blanket parties are seriously frowned upon out in the world. [:D]
The light bulb just came on. The stinking public school system taught them well. One kid screws up. Punish them all. Too much trouble to find out who is at fault and punish the bad guy. Was not his faule anyway. Parents, society or who ever else yu want to blame.
I guess people, like some of the parents I've heard, "got the lesson" -- I guess some of us missed being indoctrinated and continued to hold to our own judgment recognizing the importance of individual action and responsibility -- and respecting individual rights.
If these same parents had lost their kids to a lunatic in a car do you think they'd want to ban cars?
YES.............some of them [:(]
quote:Originally posted by dreher
Our culture has changed so much, with so many wanting their 15 minutes of fame, their time before the cameras, their faces on the TV news.
I have lost a child. The pain is beyond comprehension. I literally do not remember anything but zombie like behavior for over a year after Peter's death. It was like being dead inside. I could never have done a TV interview at Peter's grave site because I could not have stopped crying long enough to be coherent. I cannot understand this behavior. If this is the loonie left in action than they care far more for their political agenda than they care for their children.[V]
My condolences.
I have to believe that I would behave exactle as you described. I doubt I would have talked to anyone outside of immediate family.....and certainly NOT the press.
dreher you have my deepest condolences as well...
Guntech, I agree with you.......
There is an agenda at work here, there always is, the libtards absolutely WILL NOT let a good crisis go to waste...........
quote:Originally posted by jeffb1911
No, you are not a bad person at all. You are simply tired of being blamed for what others have done.
I think you have something there.
"Collective guilt and punishment" is something that has always annoyed me. In school, I remember having some teachers who would punish the whole class because of the misbehavior of one student. Even as a child (6-7 years old) I remember thinking how unfair it was (and no, I wasn't the one who had misbehaved).
That is my issue with it all. One person does wrong and everyone gets punished. One kid in school acts up, the whole class gets punished. A few people fly planes into a building, and the whole country gets punished, and strip searched at every airport. One wackjob shoots some kids in a school, and 300 million citizens get their guns taken away.