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Commie Christians
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Seems like there are Commies on the left and right now. Usually school rules apply to school activities and events. What does it mean if they apply it to your personal life as well?
Ohio Christian school tells student to skip prom
FINDLAY, Ohio - A student at a fundamentalist Baptist school that forbids dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing will be suspended if he takes his girlfriend to her public high school prom, his principal said.
Despite the warning, 17-year-old Tyler Frost, who has never been to a dance before, said he plans to attend Findlay High School's prom Saturday.
Frost, a senior at Heritage Christian School in northwest Ohio, agreed to the school's rules when he signed a statement of cooperation at the beginning of the year, principal Tim England said.
The teen, who is scheduled to receive his diploma May 24, would be suspended from classes and receive an "incomplete" on remaining assignments, England said. Frost also would not be permitted to attend graduation but would get a diploma once he completes final exams. If Frost is involved with alcohol or sex at the prom, he will be expelled, England said.
Frost's stepfather Stephan Johnson said the school's rules should not apply outside the classroom.
"He deserves to wear that cap and gown," Johnson said.
Frost said he thought he had handled the situation properly. Findlay requires students from other schools attending the prom to get a signature from their principal, which Frost did.
"I expected a short lecture about making the right decisions and not doing something stupid," Frost said. "I thought I would get his signature and that would be the end."
England acknowledged signing the form but warned Frost there would be consequences if he attended the dance. England then took the issue to a school committee made up of church members, who decided to threaten Frost with suspension.
"In life, we constantly make decisions whether we are going to please self or please God. (Frost) chose one path, and the school committee chose the other," England said.
The handbook for the 84-student Christian school says rock music "is part of the counterculture which seeks to implant seeds of rebellion in young people's hearts and minds."
England said Frost's family should not be surprised by the school's position.
"For the parents to claim any injustice regarding this issue is at best forgetful and at worst disingenuous," he said. "It is our hope that the student and his parents will abide by the policies they have already agreed to."
The principal at Findlay High School, whose graduates include Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, said he respects, but does not agree with, Heritage Christian School's view of prom.
"I don't see (dancing and rock music) as immoral acts," Craig Kupferberg said.
Ohio Christian school tells student to skip prom
FINDLAY, Ohio - A student at a fundamentalist Baptist school that forbids dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing will be suspended if he takes his girlfriend to her public high school prom, his principal said.
Despite the warning, 17-year-old Tyler Frost, who has never been to a dance before, said he plans to attend Findlay High School's prom Saturday.
Frost, a senior at Heritage Christian School in northwest Ohio, agreed to the school's rules when he signed a statement of cooperation at the beginning of the year, principal Tim England said.
The teen, who is scheduled to receive his diploma May 24, would be suspended from classes and receive an "incomplete" on remaining assignments, England said. Frost also would not be permitted to attend graduation but would get a diploma once he completes final exams. If Frost is involved with alcohol or sex at the prom, he will be expelled, England said.
Frost's stepfather Stephan Johnson said the school's rules should not apply outside the classroom.
"He deserves to wear that cap and gown," Johnson said.
Frost said he thought he had handled the situation properly. Findlay requires students from other schools attending the prom to get a signature from their principal, which Frost did.
"I expected a short lecture about making the right decisions and not doing something stupid," Frost said. "I thought I would get his signature and that would be the end."
England acknowledged signing the form but warned Frost there would be consequences if he attended the dance. England then took the issue to a school committee made up of church members, who decided to threaten Frost with suspension.
"In life, we constantly make decisions whether we are going to please self or please God. (Frost) chose one path, and the school committee chose the other," England said.
The handbook for the 84-student Christian school says rock music "is part of the counterculture which seeks to implant seeds of rebellion in young people's hearts and minds."
England said Frost's family should not be surprised by the school's position.
"For the parents to claim any injustice regarding this issue is at best forgetful and at worst disingenuous," he said. "It is our hope that the student and his parents will abide by the policies they have already agreed to."
The principal at Findlay High School, whose graduates include Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, said he respects, but does not agree with, Heritage Christian School's view of prom.
"I don't see (dancing and rock music) as immoral acts," Craig Kupferberg said.
Comments
What exactly is rock music? Where do you cross the line between good and evil?
They aren't communists WPA, but I bet they are hypocrites.
AT
Going to a Christian school is an OPTION. If you don't like the rules, go to public school there is where you will find the real commies.
Going to a Christian school is an OPTION. If you don't like the rules, go to public school there is where you will find the real commies.
It's not a question of "liking" the rules. Apparently he has followed all the SCHOOL'S rules for the last 4 years. They are trying to dictate his personal life. They mentioned if he engaged in the use of alcohol or had sex, he would be expelled. How would they know that unless they are following him around or spy on him? There has to be a line somewhere with everything.
Frost, a senior at Heritage Christian School in northwest Ohio, agreed to the school's rules when he signed a statement of cooperation at the beginning of the year, principal Tim England said.
This pretty much says it all. If you want to attend, follow the rules. If you don't agree with the rules, don't go to school there.
I would assume the kids parents pay to send him to this school. And would therefore assume that THEY would be the ones to obect to and enforce his non participation in activities not in line w/their beliefs.
Faith is a personal thing. If neither the kid or the parents are into observation of it, then let him go and send him to public school.
I don't see this as Christian Communism. If you're churches views aren't in line w/yours. You're in the wrong place.
This thread reminds me of one of my * Liberal co-workers who this week stated that "90% of all murders are done in the name of Christianity". Anyone who believes this crap has a brain that's 90% mush.
Maybe not communists per se, but I remember when the Stones were playing in China and they told them what songs they could sing and gave an excuse very similar to: rock music "is part of the counterculture which seeks to implant seeds of rebellion in young people's hearts and minds."
Rock music has in part shaped many a young mind. It is very influencial.
This is not always a bad thing.
If more folks had a rebellious, defiant spirit about themselves as opposed to one of conformity or just simply 'going with the flow', we'd be in much better shape.
He signed the contract and agreed to the rules, but now wants to change the rules because he wants to do something else. If they allow him to do that, he is learning that agreements aren't worth the papaer they are written on and he can do what ever he wants when ever he wants to do it.
That's what we need in the future. I remember when a man's word or handshake was as good as a written contract. No more!
Frost, a senior at Heritage Christian School in northwest Ohio, agreed to the school's rules when he signed a statement of cooperation at the beginning of the year, principal Tim England said.
This pretty much says it all. If you want to attend, follow the rules. If you don't agree with the rules, don't go to school there.
You're right, but I wonder how far their rules reach into your personal life. I would think since this event is not sanctioned by the school he attends the rules would not apply, but since apparently that school has domain over your life while you attend it he'll be subject to their rules. I'm just one for personal liberties as long as you're not hurting people or property and this school seems a bit overbearing with their rules.
This pretty much says it all. If you want to attend, follow the rules. If you don't agree with the rules, don't go to school there.
what choice does a kid have though???
Did he pick out the school or are his parents trying to indoctrinate him into a pretty asinine cult that claims to be Christian?
Some good atheletes broke the rules and were either booted from the program or SEVERELY punished if they wanted to stay. Weeks of extra PT training such as running bleachers etc.
In life you have many hard choices. This kid has one of many to come.
Many churches insist on strict control of their congregation and/or students if they have a school.
I knew it was time to remove my kids from a Baptist school in 1983 when they started preaching anyone that has a beard (or long hair) and does not feel guilty can not be a Christian.
Still looking for the chapter and verse on that one.
That church split shortly after that direction change.
The core behind real Christianity is voluntary, not subjugation and when any church demands subjugation it is time to leave.
I am far from being righteous but would have to backslide pretty far to fit in at most churches so I do them a favor and stay away.
When you suggest not to listen to the pastor he does not know what he is talking about you are not look upon fondly.
No, seriously, they don't appreciate stuff like that!!![:D]
Wulfmann
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
How about the public schools that forbid kids to bring aspirin to school? Or forbid them bringing desserts or sodas because of the sugar?
Going to a Christian school is an OPTION. If you don't like the rules, go to public school there is where you will find the real commies.
Well, you can forbid kids from bringing aspirin, but can't forbid them from having their morning after pill...
We should keep agreements we make.
If we attend such a school and agree to their standards we abide by our word or we leave, transfer to another school but I can't say this guy has the right to break his agreement for a dance but I do feel he has the right to resign from this school.
If the school does not deny his diploma the other mentioned actions seem correct for violating an agreement.
We have become a nation that no longer upholds contracts and the mortgage meltdown shows how far we have come and how far the government is going to extend our lack of keeping contracts.
Wulfmann
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
How about the public schools that forbid kids to bring aspirin to school? Or forbid them bringing desserts or sodas because of the sugar?
Going to a Christian school is an OPTION. If you don't like the rules, go to public school there is where you will find the real commies.
I believe it is asinine that kids can't bring OTC meds to school...or that a QUALIFIED nurse could not give me a fracking excedrin when I'd get a migraine...
but those rules only apply when you are AT SCHOOL...there is a difference, what the kid does on his/her own time is non of the school's damn business...
What the nutty baptists did would be more like getting kicked out of public school because you went shooting with dad on the weekend...or because you play paintball (which is a war game, therefore violent and not PC)