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This just in from the NRA
CHGOTHNDER
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Dear Fellow American,
This 4th of July, while you and your family celebrate the 230th Anniversary of the founding of our great nation, there's one party you won't be invited to...
...And that's the party that Kofi Annan is throwing at United Nations headquarters in New York -- using your tax dollars -- for nearly fifty dictatorships, six terrorist states, governments that endorse execution based on religious faith, and a multitude of other nations from around the globe.
You see, this party isn't to honor your freedoms -- but to conspire to take them away.
Over our July 4th holiday, on American soil, they are preparing to enact a legally-binding treaty that would give the U.N. unchallengeable power to ban civilian ownership of ALL firearms.
That means your rifles, your shotguns and your handguns. AND YOUR FREEDOM!
To learn what you can do to stop the U.N.'s global gun ban treaty-before it destroys our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms visit www.stopungunban.org.
Just as a handful of patriots fired the "shot heard 'round the world" at Concord Bridge, it's up to you and me and every patriot who cherishes our Bill of Rights to tell the world today that our nation will not be bullied by the U.N.
Thank you for acting today.
Wayne LaPierre
Executive Vice President
National Rifle Association of America
This 4th of July, while you and your family celebrate the 230th Anniversary of the founding of our great nation, there's one party you won't be invited to...
...And that's the party that Kofi Annan is throwing at United Nations headquarters in New York -- using your tax dollars -- for nearly fifty dictatorships, six terrorist states, governments that endorse execution based on religious faith, and a multitude of other nations from around the globe.
You see, this party isn't to honor your freedoms -- but to conspire to take them away.
Over our July 4th holiday, on American soil, they are preparing to enact a legally-binding treaty that would give the U.N. unchallengeable power to ban civilian ownership of ALL firearms.
That means your rifles, your shotguns and your handguns. AND YOUR FREEDOM!
To learn what you can do to stop the U.N.'s global gun ban treaty-before it destroys our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms visit www.stopungunban.org.
Just as a handful of patriots fired the "shot heard 'round the world" at Concord Bridge, it's up to you and me and every patriot who cherishes our Bill of Rights to tell the world today that our nation will not be bullied by the U.N.
Thank you for acting today.
Wayne LaPierre
Executive Vice President
National Rifle Association of America
Comments
the "blue beanies" couldn't pacifiy a bunch of Somalis, we are much better shots than Somalis [;)]
I would be more concerned about any laws our own government passed, they CAN enforce those
The UN can pass resolutions. However, UN resolutions have about as much teeth as that 104-year old bride that just got married last week.
The USA can accept the resolution or, like many nations, reject it. I don't see a GOP controlled Senate accepting a UN resolution banning all firearms. A Democrat-controlled Senate? Sure, it is a real possibility. But, I would at least expect a GOP filibuster, joined by some good, Southern Democrats (what few exist).
Constitutionally-speaking, Article VI states that the Senate is the only one with the power to make, create and endorse treaties. The House cannot do this and the President cannot do this. Moreover, it isn't just a simple majority of Senators that pass a treaty -- it must be 2/3 of the Senators (that's 67 of them).
While I can't vouch for every Senator's stance on gun control (I could do it by looking it up on the NRA website I'm sure), I find it very difficult to believe that there's 67 of them willing to sign onto a treaty banning firearms.
I support the NRA. I don't happen to care much for Wayne, but he's the man in office and apparently much of the membership supports him.
FWIW, I'm all for sending money to groups that will protect our 2nd Amendment rights (so long as they don't have other agendas that disgust me). But, I oftentimes wish that Wayne would be honest with the members of the NRA instead of always screaming and shouting and twisting things so that he can make money.
I leave churches when pastors start making money the most important thing when they should be making God the most important Thing. Wayne should remember that the 2nd Amendment is the most important thing, not raising cash.
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
What good old Wayne forgets to tell (and FWIW, I'm a member of the NRA, but oftentimes he fails to tell the whole story -- of course, it makes it easier to raise money by telling half the story) is that the UN is unable to make laws on behalf of the United States.
The UN can pass resolutions. However, UN resolutions have about as much teeth as that 104-year old bride that just got married last week.
The USA can accept the resolution or, like many nations, reject it. I don't see a GOP controlled Senate accepting a UN resolution banning all firearms. A Democrat-controlled Senate? Sure, it is a real possibility. But, I would at least expect a GOP filibuster, joined by some good, Southern Democrats (what few exist).
Constitutionally-speaking, Article VI states that the Senate is the only one with the power to make, create and endorse treaties. The House cannot do this and the President cannot do this. Moreover, it isn't just a simple majority of Senators that pass a treaty -- it must be 2/3 of the Senators (that's 67 of them).
While I can't vouch for every Senator's stance on gun control (I could do it by looking it up on the NRA website I'm sure), I find it very difficult to believe that there's 67 of them willing to sign onto a treaty banning firearms.
I support the NRA. I don't happen to care much for Wayne, but he's the man in office and apparently much of the membership supports him.
FWIW, I'm all for sending money to groups that will protect our 2nd Amendment rights (so long as they don't have other agendas that disgust me). But, I oftentimes wish that Wayne would be honest with the members of the NRA instead of always screaming and shouting and twisting things so that he can make money.
I leave churches when pastors start making money the most important thing when they should be making God the most important Thing. Wayne should remember that the 2nd Amendment is the most important thing, not raising cash.
How they do all the work that they do with such a tiny membership is beyond me. But I have said this all before and I apologise for restating.
It is my understanding that international agreements take precident even over our contsitutional rights ()which are increasingly ignored anyway.)
Thanks for making that big so that my old eyes could see it.
Now, I'll invite you to go back and re-read what I posted and you'll see that international agreements (also known as "treaties") require 2/3 of US Senate agreement to become law.
When our Senators are 2/3 anti-gun, we'll have something to worry about. Right now, we don't.
NOTE: This doesn't mean that I suggest we ignore the problem, it simply means that in this current political environment, the problem is unrealistic. I think we should be fighting even if it is unrealistic, because sometime down the road, it might change, and it is harder to push back a huge wall than it is to push back a small wall.
Two years ago I got my annual financial statement from the NRA and it boasted 8 million members..
Oh if your a member and request it they will also send you a financial (Joke) report. It so freaking vague about where money is given away, spent, it is rediculous,, I took it to a Public Accountant and he coulndt tell me what was up with it..Just like the Federal Gubment,, Most of it lumped into a General Fund..No specifics as to who, what, and where..[:(] And naturally the salaries were in the General fund..[:0]
TR-Fox said that Wayne makes a little less than 200K per year. That is very fair for the size of the organization. The guy who runs Goodwill industries in Portland makes twice that. I have never seen salaries for the other officers but I suspect they are not out of line. The NRA has never been critized by the anti's for misuse of funds, at least I am not aware of any charges. I wonder how much money Sarah Brady makes per year, or Josh Sugerman?
But that is not what this tread is about. Its about the United Nations. I wish they would move that forum to the UK or some other socialist country.
PJ
quote:Originally posted by 46270
well if you think these cant happen
do nothing.
But I am a life member, I will send letters to the UN
to let them know damn well, our right are just that.
here my copy that I sent.
The Honorable Kofi Annan
Secretary-General of the United Nations
United Nations Headquarters
First Avenue at 46th Street
New York, New York 10017
SUBJECT: THE ATTACK ON OUR RIGHTS, OUR FREEDOMS
Dear Mr. Secretary-General:
The 4th of July is America's most revered national holiday.
Yet, you have nevertheless chosen that day to meet at the U.N., on American soil, in your drive to ban civilian Firearm ownership worldwide. In doing so, you have placed the U.N. squarely on the side of freedom's enemies. Americans like me have over 230 years of experience in defeating the anti-freedom aims of petty tyrants and powerful dictators alike. And the American people will never let you take away the rights that our 4th of July holiday represents. Our freedoms are not to blame for the world's problems, and this is a battle you can never win.
Why don't you spend your time, looking into your Food for Oil Program scandal, look into the Human rights violation in North Korea, Iran, and Cuba, Get involved with the IAEA, To stop the Terrorist states getting Nuclear Weapons.
Just Remember One Thing, Keep your Damn Ideas about taking our Firearms away to yourself. If you really think that we would let such a Corrupt Outfit take our Firearms away. Remember these simple Words "You can have my Guns when you pry them from my cold dead hands" You don't have the Balls to get in to this fight. I vowed to defend this country from all enemies foreign & domestic. Anyone that would side with you is an enemy of the United States of America.
I agree, but if the 60 million gun owners would join the NRA and send them a small amount of money ole Wayne wouldn't have to beg for money all the time from only FOUR MILLION MEMBERS!
How they do all the work that they do with such a tiny membership is beyond me. But I have said this all before and I apologise for restating.
somebody has got to pay for the upkeep on Waynes new yacht. I hear he bought it from Randy Cunningham.
What good old Wayne forgets to tell (and FWIW, I'm a member of the NRA, but oftentimes he fails to tell the whole story -- of course, it makes it easier to raise money by telling half the story) is that the UN is unable to make laws on behalf of the United States.
The UN can pass resolutions. However, UN resolutions have about as much teeth as that 104-year old bride that just got married last week.
The USA can accept the resolution or, like many nations, reject it. I don't see a GOP controlled Senate accepting a UN resolution banning all firearms. A Democrat-controlled Senate? Sure, it is a real possibility. But, I would at least expect a GOP filibuster, joined by some good, Southern Democrats (what few exist).
Constitutionally-speaking, Article VI states that the Senate is the only one with the power to make, create and endorse treaties. The House cannot do this and the President cannot do this. Moreover, it isn't just a simple majority of Senators that pass a treaty -- it must be 2/3 of the Senators (that's 67 of them).
While I can't vouch for every Senator's stance on gun control (I could do it by looking it up on the NRA website I'm sure), I find it very difficult to believe that there's 67 of them willing to sign onto a treaty banning firearms.
I support the NRA. I don't happen to care much for Wayne, but he's the man in office and apparently much of the membership supports him.
FWIW, I'm all for sending money to groups that will protect our 2nd Amendment rights (so long as they don't have other agendas that disgust me). But, I oftentimes wish that Wayne would be honest with the members of the NRA instead of always screaming and shouting and twisting things so that he can make money.
I leave churches when pastors start making money the most important thing when they should be making God the most important Thing. Wayne should remember that the 2nd Amendment is the most important thing, not raising cash.
Somehow I believe when the UN gets ready to do something to the US they'll come at us with all they have. Kofi Anan is a digrace. UN members are the biggest customers of high-classed call girls in NY. They have people in countries that are picking up prostitues left and right.
I say we need something different than the NRA. We've seen every class of moron have their million XXXXXX (add in your favorite class of moron) march on DC. For the most part I don't think any reached much over 10k. I think it's time the white man marches on DC and the UN. I shouldn't say white men. I should say anyone that cherishes their freedom, has an ounce of decency left in them, and some Faith their is a God no matter the color of their skin. It just seems like white men are about the last group on this planet that have any sense left. If there were one million plus march on the UN and rattle the foundation of that building and tell them to straighten up or we'll remove you physically, I think it would do some good. I say 10 million. So many we overwhelm DC and NYC. Kofi Anan oversees the most corrupt organizatuion in the history of our world. He has not done anything to stop what is going on in Africa and yet he reamains. I think he ought to be taken OUT no matter how. Like Clint says, "Straight up, or draped over the saddle".
He's either one of the most incompetent and corrupt men that ever lived or one of the most evil.
Actually, all three.
FWIW, I don't believe for a second that the UN would do anything along the lines of coming at us with everything they had. First of all, they don't have ANYTHING. They control a bunch of peacekeepers, most of whom are a bunch of French cheese-eating surrender-monkeys. Second of all, the US is the backbone of their funding. Without us, they have no money to operate, have no building to meet, etc. Third of all, they're corrupt as hell and most interested in finding out what method will send the most money to their wallets in the most efficient manner possible. Attacking the United States is probably the least-efficient means available.
Finally, again, they can pass whatever resolution they want. Resolutions, as Saddam showed 27 times, aren't worth the paper that they're written on. Until our US Senate approves it with a 2/3 majority, the UN might as well be wiping its @$$ with it.
And, finally, finally, the UN does not want to take on Joe Sixpack. Trust me on this, they are more afraid of you and me than we are of them. The UN knows just as well as anyone else that if they come a'knockin' for our guns, especially without US approval, that Joe Sixpack will wipe the floor with any of their peacekeepers. UN peacekeepers don't shoot back, we do.