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Bombshell In Duke Fake Rape Case

AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
the DA has been saying all along that NO semen was found on the accuser. today it was revealed that semen WAS found during the rape kit examination at the hospital and it DOESNT match any duke lacross player. this black women is in trouble.

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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    I knew this.....from the start
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Affirmative Action Prosecutor+Black Accuser+Black Electorate=

    Pile of BS
  • warriorsfanwarriorsfan Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There was no DNA match from semen, but they did find skin cells underneath one of the accuser's fake fingernails that was a partial DNA match for one of the players, although it wasn't one of the two who were indicted. So the case just keeps getting weirder and weirder.
  • headzilla97headzilla97 Member Posts: 6,445
    edited November -1
    shes was a stripper she touched one of the players case dismmissed
  • AdironduckAdironduck Member Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "There was no DNA match from semen, but they did find skin cells underneath one of the accuser's fake fingernails that was a partial DNA match for one of the players, although it wasn't one of the two who were indicted. So the case just keeps getting weirder and weirder."

    You better look again warriorsfan,the second DNA does not match any of the Duke U. players.It does match an individual "known to local police".Just another Tawana Brawley style scam.Real justice in this case would be to hang that crooked DA.
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    I'm wondering why Albert felt the need to point out that she was a black woman. Would he feel any different about the case if she were white?

    If not, why did he feel the need to point out that she is black?

    Of course, I know why he took the time and effort to put in the extra six (counting the spacebar) keystrokes. I'm just curious if anyone else picked up on that.
  • AdironduckAdironduck Member Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Affirmative Action Prosecutor+Black Accuser+Black Electorate=Pile of BS."

    Does this help???
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Spanielsells I did notice, but you got there first. I was reasonbly impressed that he spelled black correctly, he may be the first klansman ever to spell it without the n.
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    I'm wondering why Albert felt the need to point out that she was a black woman. Would he feel any different about the case if she were white?

    If not, why did he feel the need to point out that she is black?

    Of course, I know why he took the time and effort to put in the extra six (counting the spacebar) keystrokes. I'm just curious if anyone else picked up on that.


    if you were wondering why Albert mentioned the accuser was black then why dont you just ask Albert, maybe he has a good explination.
  • lazeruslazerus Member Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    I'm wondering why Albert felt the need to point out that she was a black woman. Would he feel any different about the case if she were white?

    If not, why did he feel the need to point out that she is black?

    Of course, I know why he took the time and effort to put in the extra six (counting the spacebar) keystrokes. I'm just curious if anyone else picked up on that.


    Because the fact that she is black, is a valid part of the point that he was trying to make that you completely missed.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,520 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    She was black? They couldn't tell, the lights were out.[:o)]
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    Spanielsells I did notice, but you got there first. I was reasonbly impressed that he spelled black correctly, he may be the first klansman ever to spell it without the n.


    HAHA, get it ? because if you call a black person "black" then you are a racist, HAHAHA
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by AlbertLum
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    Spanielsells I did notice, but you got there first. I was reasonbly impressed that he spelled black correctly, he may be the first klansman ever to spell it without the n.


    HAHA, get it ? because if you call a black person "black" then you are a racist, HAHAHA


    No, genius. The fact that she is black has nothing to do with the case. She's a woman who is very likely throwing around false accusations about being raped. Wanna know something? White women do it all the time, too.

    The fact that she is black has zilch to do with this case.
  • SGSG Member Posts: 7,548
    edited November -1
    Yeah,tell that to the Black Panthers[;)]quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by AlbertLum
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    Spanielsells I did notice, but you got there first. I was reasonbly impressed that he spelled black correctly, he may be the first klansman ever to spell it without the n.


    HAHA, get it ? because if you call a black person "black" then you are a racist, HAHAHA


    No, genius. The fact that she is black has nothing to do with the case. She's a woman who is very likely throwing around false accusations about being raped. Wanna know something? White women do it all the time, too.

    The fact that she is black has zilch to do with this case.
  • JgreenJgreen Member Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, but the fact that she's black is something that guys like Lum get squishy-pants for.....
  • tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Race is not a fact or circumstance. It cannot be merely stated as a part of an account.

    It is now and has long been political. Some people will raise the racial flag whenever possible, whether or not it is appropriate.

    Please note that television news agencies avoid stating whether the wanted person is black or white. Rather, they give a full description without reference to race, and then add a police sketch or re-enactment video that makes the point quite forcefully.

    There are people in America who would control every word uttered by everyone else in the name of Political Correctness. Race, being political, falls under their self-assumed authority.

    So the equation becomes political issue plus PC judge equals irrationality, also known as political correctness.
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    Originally posted by AlbertLum
    Originally posted by He Dog

    No, genius. The fact that she is black has nothing to do with the case. She's a woman who is very likely throwing around false accusations about being raped. Wanna know something? White women do it all the time, too.

    The fact that she is black has zilch to do with this case.


    well actually her race DOES have something to do with this case. in her orginal claim and the 9-1-1 call she claims the duke lacross players were calling her and her "black friend" the n-word. That means that as the complaint is alledged, that this is a hate crime that was purpetrated on a black person by white people. she is the one who brought up race and the relevancy of her being black.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    No, genius. The fact that she is black has nothing to do with the case. She's a woman who is very likely throwing around false accusations about being raped. Wanna know something? White women do it all the time, too.

    The fact that she is black has zilch to do with this case.

    The fact that she is black should have nothing to do with the case, but if you think it doesn't, you are very mistaken.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    AND,, it's only "politicaly correct" to use the "N"-word if you ARE black!
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I saw an interview with a very well spoken attorney for one of the lacrosse players last night.
    There was dna from a lacrosse player on one of the fingernails. However, as the attorney said, the stripper had removed these fingernails and thrown them into the trash can in the bathroom. As the attorney said, there were kleenexes, cotton swabs etc. in that trash can. In court, it would be easy to explain how dna from a resident of the house would be in a trash can in the bathroom, and could have been innocently transferred to that fingernail. Hell, it is also possible that she scratched the lacross player while he was raping her, I don't know.
    The attorney also said that semen was recovered from a vaginal swab of the accuser, and that it matched none of the lacrosse players. He emphasized that this was known to the prosecuter but that the prosecutor had kept it quiet. He said that this dna matched another person who was known to Durham police, the implication was that this was not a Duke student but an acquaintance of the accuser.
  • tccoxtccox Member Posts: 7,379 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is not a race case?? BULLpoop!!Jessie Jackson was there in a heartbeat automatically makes it a race case. He will probably try to extort millions from Duke. Why else would he be there? For pity of the poor stripper who he has now pledged to pay full tuition? He and Al Sharpton have probably already agreed on the proceeds split.
    Unfortunately DNA evidence seems to be jumping all over the place. Greta Van Sustern and Nancy Grace would be out of business if it were not for cases like this. If I ever kill (or get accused of
    killing someone), I want Nancy to be defence attourney!! Even if I get convcted, I would like to see her visit me in jail!! Tom
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, the fact that she was black is not the BIG issue here. But it could have something to do with Jessie Jackson getting involved so quickly! If she had been white would our man, Jessie Jackson, be on here case, too?[;)][;)][;)][V][V][V]
  • wipalawipala Member Posts: 11,067
    edited November -1
    OK the DNA was found on the fake fingernail that was in the trashcan in the bathroom. Well if the guy lives in the house why would it be strange to find his DNA in his trashcan.
  • tacking1tacking1 Member Posts: 3,844
    edited November -1
    I gotta tell you that sitting across the street from the Durham County jail...where all this takes place has been a hoot. Yesterday there were at LEAST 9 news vans lined up on the sidewalk with myriad reporters chasing every suited person in sight. This plays havoc on the poor immigrant hispanics who just want to do thier time for wife beating and leave. (that's another later post)

    Seriously though, ands I do apologize for my lack of knowledge, but has Jesse been here? The New Black Panthers I know about and many many local activists...but Jesse?

    For those of you who live in places where race is not an issue in day to day life, I am awfully sorry to say that to disregard that componenet of this case is nieve. (sp.) It IS a part of the case as the DA has huge pressure brought down on him from the black community.

    Locals here are very worried of what will happen if the current indictments are lifted and another suspect is considered that is not white. People feel that the black community will explode, as justice is a nebulus perception amongst that segment of society.
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    The only reason that Jesse Jackson is there is that he is one of the biggest racists on this planet. So, the mere fact that he is involved does not translate to the alleged victim being black as being important. Like some on this board, Jackson is a race-baiter who will twist facts to extract his pound of flesh and to better promote his position as a "civil rights activist" when, in fact, that's exactly the opposite of what he really is.
  • TrinityScrimshawTrinityScrimshaw Member Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The skin cells on one of the accuser's fake fingernails that had a partial DNA match was found on top of the nail, not underneath it. And, it was a partial match for the CPT of the team. It was his house, and his bathroom. The nail was found in his trash can in his bathroom. It wouldn't take much to cause cross contamination in this situation. You would have to expect his DNA would be there. I am not an attorney, but I think I could defend those accused in this case.

    Trinity +++
  • glynglyn Member Posts: 5,698 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am beginning to wonder if this DA has mental problems.He doesnt seem to be doing anything right and a fews lies to boot.
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the lacross players voluntarily gave the finger nail to the police 3 days after the accuser made her rape accusation. do you think that someone guilty of rape would voluntarily turn over incriminating evidence to the police ?

    and the semen found inside her baby making hole turned out to be her boyfriends. not the lacross players.
  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    ...WHAT? I thought this had already been settled, (as per albert) the legal process is still ongoing? HOW?...can this be?

    ON APRIL 10th TWEEDLELUMDUM POSTED
    Duke La Cross Players are INNOCENT

    quote:"just as i predicted. the blacks are at it again falsely claiming racism. i hope they throw that black stripper in jail for a LONG TIME"

    ...Ya mean...this was not true, it wasn't over when tweedlelumdum said it was?? ...geez, and I was hanging on everyword...[:(]



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  • tacking1tacking1 Member Posts: 3,844
    edited November -1
    FYI in the local paper this morning there is an editorial from a black columnist named McCann (sp).

    I am not a cut and paste guy so I'll try to relate the jist of the column.

    This guy says that it is unfair that the accusor gets to remain unidentified. The LaCrosse players are all named and photos posted everywhere. Thier lives completely opened up. But all she has to do is withdraw the charges and she fades into the sunset. Is that fair?
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    as of right now there is no law that is preventing her identity from being known. the media is VOLUNTARILY withholding her identity. the media practices the most censorship of anyone EVER.
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tacking1
    This guy says that it is unfair that the accusor gets to remain unidentified. The LaCrosse players are all named and photos posted everywhere. Thier lives completely opened up. But all she has to do is withdraw the charges and she fades into the sunset. Is that fair?


    I agree 100% that it is unfair, and have been saying that about rape cases for close to ten years now.

    It is difficult to fake a murder -- I'm not saying that it can't be done, rather, I'm saying it is difficult. It is difficult to fake an assault -- again, not saying it can't be done, just difficult.

    However, it is very easy to fake a rape. Please, understand that I've got two close friends who have been raped and I'm not belittling anyone who has been raped. It is, IMO, one of the single worst things one human being can do to another. All I am saying is it is relatively easy to fake one, especially if there's no violence involved (date rape being the most common). It is usually nothing more than a woman (in most cases) claiming that a man "forced" her to have sex with him because she's upset she had sex, scared she had sex or, worse, trying to extract a pound of flesh from a guy.

    Does anyone here remember the cases of child abuse, where psychiatrists would lead "victims" to remember that they had been sexually abused as children, when no such thing ever occurred? But, the mere suggestion by the psychiatrist was enough to convince the "victim" that a sexual assault occurred!

    Anyhow, back to my point. We have no problems whatsoever destroying the lives of those accused but yet untried, and for some reason, when it is usually nothing more than a pi$$ing match, we're going out of our way to protect the accusor from any embarassment.

    Meanwhile, even if these guys are found not guilty, the stigma of merely being accused of rape will follow them around for the rest of their lives. These guys are convicted whether they've done anything or not in the eyes of society.

    IMM, it would be interesting to see where an accusor (and to be fair, with any type of crime) was held financially liable for false accusations and had to not only pay for the costs for a wrongfully-accused person to defend himself, but also be subject to civil suits. My guess is that the amount of false "rape" cases would drop significantly.

    Of course the downside to that idea is that women who are really raped might not come forward.
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