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Why are so many shooters such slobs?
Riomouse911
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Here is an article from a local paper about an open BLM shooting area that is under pressure to close because of the trash and crap shooters leave all over the place. I regularly take my kids and go to an open area and shoot, and we always end up bringing three trash bags (or more) full of shot up cans, plastic bottles, TV parts, propane tanks, spent shotgun hulls, ad nauseum... home to throw out. All because some morons are too lazy or stupid to take 10 minutes to clean up their own mess.
If I was an anti, I wouldn't push for more gun purchase regulations. THIS is how I would get all open public land shooting areas closed permanently. And it's all because of the pathetic slobs who haul their trash out, shoot it up, and leave it. We've all seen or heard of private ranges and clubs being closed due to lawsuits, "environmental regulations" or noise complaints. (In So Cal I can think of Long Beach and Fish Canyon closing, and Lytle Creek went from a free open area to a concessionaire charging $ to shoot in the past decade or so)
Just think about how easy things can be because of slobs like these folks; no where to shoot, fewer and fewer new firearm owners until we're extinct. If you folks know slobs or shoot with some, PLEASE get them to haul out their garbage, and maybe take a bit extra as well. Before WE blow it for our kids and theirs.
http://www.pe.com/local-news/riverside-county/perris/perris-headlines-index/20140325-perris-cleanup-slated-for-steele-peak-shooting-area.ece
If I was an anti, I wouldn't push for more gun purchase regulations. THIS is how I would get all open public land shooting areas closed permanently. And it's all because of the pathetic slobs who haul their trash out, shoot it up, and leave it. We've all seen or heard of private ranges and clubs being closed due to lawsuits, "environmental regulations" or noise complaints. (In So Cal I can think of Long Beach and Fish Canyon closing, and Lytle Creek went from a free open area to a concessionaire charging $ to shoot in the past decade or so)
Just think about how easy things can be because of slobs like these folks; no where to shoot, fewer and fewer new firearm owners until we're extinct. If you folks know slobs or shoot with some, PLEASE get them to haul out their garbage, and maybe take a bit extra as well. Before WE blow it for our kids and theirs.
http://www.pe.com/local-news/riverside-county/perris/perris-headlines-index/20140325-perris-cleanup-slated-for-steele-peak-shooting-area.ece
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I shoot in open desert areas on BLM or NFS land around Phoenix AZ. The quantities of trash other shooters leave is just plain disgusting. While I always bring back more than I take out, it feels like I've dipped a child's beach bucket into the ocean.
Its always the sorry few that ruin it for the majority.
They're the same pigs that throw garbage out of their cars driving down the road. World's full of them.
Couldn't have said it better myself. [:(!]
Its called sharing
[:I]
that shoot up road signs. Not far from me there is a
warning sign located just before a sharp corner on the
roadway...it is always full of bullet holes...and there
is a fairly large house about 300 yards behind that sign.
REAL IDIOTS !!!
There just leaving targets for the other shooters to use.
Its called sharing
[:I]
Last time out, last Saturday, I found some particle board propped up against desert bushes. Targets taped to the boards, no bullet holes in them. Lots of busted glass though, and dozens of .223 brass about fifty feet back. got the impression they setup the targets, got into breaking bottles and ran out of ammo.
On an early outing a couple weekends before I found an iron rabbit gong. Steel plate on a steel rod frame, swings when you hit it. Had only two bullet impacts on it, the paint looked new otherwise.
Some of the above I dragged home for the dumpster.
Some, still in the car for the next outing [:D]
quote:Originally posted by rossowmn
"Slob shooters" are a microcosm of the slob public in general. My property has frontage of about 400 feet, and every spring, after the snow in the ditches has melted, I have to go out with buckets, bags and leather gloves to pick up empty beer cans and bottles, other assorted booze bottles, soft-drink cans, candy wrappers, McDonald's cups and bags, an occasional marijuana pipe (found one made out of a salvageable 3/8th-inch socket once), and other assorted trash that obviously was the result of passersby mistaking my ditch for their garbage can. Shooting sites are no different. It's a sad fact there are simply an awful lot of slobs on the loose. [:(][:(][:(]
+1
Same here, my "yard" backs up to a County Highway [:(!]
Seen a few hunters that fit into that
category.
If you could "magically" look at the slob shooters home and vehicle I am sure you would see the same amount and type of trash .When i did property maintenence years ago I could predict the inside of the house from the looks of their car .Trash is trash and as they say you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear .
I always figured that the opposite. The pigs that dump/leave trash, are the ones with spotless homes.
No respect for other people's property.
Seen a few hunters that fit into that
category.
Some folks just have not had any upbringing!
At one time, someone had left a decent bench there, for everyone to use. It took all of around two days for some dickfarts to put a few holes in it.
One day, having spent the better part of an hour cleaning up what I could, I decided to leave a note on the bench, saying to effect that "It's not any harder to clean up your mess than it is to make one. Please clean up, so this area remains open." It took right around a day for what I suspect to be the same group of dickfarts to put a bunch of .22s through the note. I can just picture in my mind a bunch of cocky little piss ant kids laughing as they rattled off a few mags full into it.
They even shot up a sign appealing shooters to not trash the place.
One shooter, and I smelled booze, fired with his muzzle behind me.
My ear was in the cone of his muzzle blast.
One time on a camping trip one of the scouts had a little bit of trash and instead of packing it out the kid put it under a pile of leaves. On final police-up Mr. Richards found it.
Holy smokes. I still remember how mad he was, how the whole troop then had to spend a solid hour walking shoulder to shoulder and heel to toe back and forth, back and forth over that entire campsite to get every iota of trash off the ground (and there wasn't even any other trash left!). He was so mad we were even picking up acorn shells and dead insects.
I imagine if Mr. Richards caught those fellows leaving their trash at the shooting range, they for darn sure would never leave it again.
Here is an article from a local paper about an open BLM shooting area that is under pressure to close because of the trash and crap shooters leave all over the place. I regularly take my kids and go to an open area and shoot, and we always end up bringing three trash bags (or more) full of shot up cans, plastic bottles, TV parts, propane tanks, spent shotgun hulls, ad nauseum... home to throw out. All because some morons are too lazy or stupid to take 10 minutes to clean up their own mess.
If I was an anti, I wouldn't push for more gun purchase regulations. THIS is how I would get all open public land shooting areas closed permanently. And it's all because of the pathetic slobs who haul their trash out, shoot it up, and leave it. We've all seen or heard of private ranges and clubs being closed due to lawsuits, "environmental regulations" or noise complaints. (In So Cal I can think of Long Beach and Fish Canyon closing, and Lytle Creek went from a free open area to a concessionaire charging $ to shoot in the past decade or so)
Just think about how easy things can be because of slobs like these folks; no where to shoot, fewer and fewer new firearm owners until we're extinct. If you folks know slobs or shoot with some, PLEASE get them to haul out their garbage, and maybe take a bit extra as well. Before WE blow it for our kids and theirs.
http://www.pe.com/local-news/riverside-county/perris/perris-headlines-index/20140325-perris-cleanup-slated-for-steele-peak-shooting-area.ece
Probably not the answer you're going to want to hear, but there is a portion of the shooting community that views minimal impact on the environment and leaving things as they were found as just a bunch of liberal non-sense. As the world and all that was in it was given to me, so the thinking goes, why the heck shouldn't I trash it? I'm not some tree-hugging fool. Only liberals get upset about that kind of stuff.
Sorry, but it's out there. And I imagine it's causing some of what you're talking about.
Same problems where we fish. Pick up as much as I can but it is just plain stupid, and you can't fix stupid.
No but you can change its habit by posting a few of these around an area.
At one time, someone had left a decent bench there, for everyone to use. It took all of around two days for some dickfarts to put a few holes in it.
I hear ya,once left a rabbit gong. Steel plate on a steel rod frame. for others to use............................ somebody stole it!
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Allen