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nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,083 ******
edited January 2008 in General Discussion
Here's something to think about!


Subject: How Long Do We Have?


How Long Do We Have?
About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,
in
1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University
of
Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some
2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up
until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves
generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the
majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits
from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will
finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed
by
a dictatorship."

The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning
of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these
nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith

2. From spiritual faith to great courage

3. From courage to liberty

4. From liberty to abundance

5. From abundance to complacency

6. From complacency to apathy

7. From apathy to dependence

8. From dependence back into bondage

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul,
Minn. points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000
Presidential
election:

Population of counties won by Al Gore: 127 million - Bush: 143
million

Square miles of land won by Gore: 580,000 - Bush: 2,427,000

States won by Gore: 19 - Bush: 29

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2 -
Bush:
2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won
was mostly the land owned by the tax paying citizens of this great
country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
government owned tenements and living off government welfare."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation's population already
having
reached the "governmental dependence" phase.

Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake,
knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

P.S. #9 If the Senate grants Amnesty and citizenship to 20 million
criminal invaders called illegal aliens and they vote, then goodbye USA
in less than 5 years.
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,083 ******
    edited November -1
    "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." -- Julius Caesar
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  • .250Savage.250Savage Member Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Whoa! Nunn! This is heavy! Good thing it has no bearing on the government of today...right? (Just like everyone at Waco was just a right-wing religious wacko who deserved to be burned to death)
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,083 ******
    edited November -1
    I forget who said this, but here is another one:"Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it."
    Certified SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of the General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the premier gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net Jesus is Lord!
  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dang,Now, can you see, what you've done Salzo..
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    edited November -1
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  • AntiqueDrAntiqueDr Member Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana Also,"Those who do not know what happened before they were born remain children forever." -Cicero
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilizednation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our policemore efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" --Adolph Hitler, 1933
  • gjshawgjshaw Member Posts: 14,754 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shouldn't this be in politics?[}:)]
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Shouldn't this be in politics?[}:)]


    Of course. What's your point?

    Clouder..
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized<BR>nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police<BR>more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" --<BR>Adolph Hitler, 1933<BR>



    Though it turns out I was wrong on this one. Hitler never said it.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,491 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are not enough Indians in the world to defeat the Seventh Cavalry... George Armstrong Custer
  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

    ----John Stuart Mill
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    I forget who said this, but here is another one:<P>"Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it."<P>
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    "History is bunk." Henry Ford
  • bigt7mmbigt7mm Member Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "A hand in the bush is better than two birds." bigt7mm
  • TritonbmcTritonbmc Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Those who are not liberal in their youth, have not lived. Those that remain liberal in their maturity, have no brain."-Winston Churchill
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Originally posted by nunn
    "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. <P>And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. <P>Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. <P>How do I know? For this is what I have done. <P>And I am CaesarKIng George the W." <P>-- Julius Caesar King George the W<BR><P>
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  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,237 ******
    edited November -1
    "A waist is a terrible thing to mind."
    jimdeere
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Your book of life! You are given the intro, the wrest of the written pages are up to you"

    --FrancF 1979
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Those who cannot remember history will repeat it."
    Quote from Mr. Tim Jackson. My 11th grade history teacher.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper


    larry flint
  • bigt7mmbigt7mm Member Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    "Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper
    larry flint


    One of the ultimate oxymorons of all time. Exactly what did he presume majority rule to mean?
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigt7mm
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    "Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper
    larry flint


    One of the ultimate oxymorons of all time. Exactly what did he presume majority rule to mean?


    not in 2008, minority rules now {lol}
  • Dean CascioDean Cascio Member Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen". Samuel Adams,
  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The most pervasive and least condemned form of dishonesty s not doing the best you can. Jeff Cooper
  • cowdoccowdoc Member Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "The only time the Border Patrol wins hot pursuit is when they get laid."

    Sheriff Hank Pearson
  • cowdoccowdoc Member Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    " Right way's the hardest, wrong way's the easiest. Rule of nature, like water seeks the path of least resistance. So you get crooked rivers, and crooked men."
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever." Thomas Jefferson
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    If men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences that can invite the consideration of mankind, reason is of no use; the freedom of speech may be taken away, and dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter. George Washington
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    We've been blowing it on this one....

    Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. John Adams
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    Eminant Domain....

    The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the law of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. John Adams
  • cowdoccowdoc Member Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "It's a damn nice country here, I like it. A man can get away with anything, long as he just keeps paying his friends."

    fits Any Politician these days
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    One more...
    This describes us pretty well...

    A general dissolution of the principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy.... While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue, they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.... If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the people, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security. Samuel Adams
  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

    Attributed to Ben Franklin
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  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    .308 holes make invisible souls
  • 180A180A Member Posts: 828 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We're All Here Because We're Not All There...

    Stupid men are often capable of things the clever would not dare to contemplate...


    When everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.

    The only job You get where You start at the top is digging a hole.

    "It is not about how you do it, it is about doing it".
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger. 3/25/04




    Under the United States Constitution, the federal government has no authority to hold states "accountable" for their education performance. In the free society envisioned by the founders, schools are held accountable to parents, not federal bureaucrats. 5/23/01




    One thing is clear: The Founding Fathers never intended a nation where citizens pay nearly half of everything they earn to government. 7/17/01



    No matter how well intentioned, an authoritarian government always abuses its powers. 1/31/00



    By now it should be clear to every member of Congress that the American people do not want their health information recorded on a database, and they do not wish to be assigned a unique health identifier. 3/15/01



    However, monitoring the transactions of every American in order to catch those few who are involved in some sort of illegal activity turns one of the great bulwarks of our liberty, the presumption of innocence, on its head. The federal government has no right to treat all Americans as criminals by spying on their relationship with their doctors, employers, or bankers. In fact, criminal law enforcement is reserved to the state and local governments by the Constitution's Tenth Amendment. 5/22/01



    The transformation of the Social Security number into a de facto uniform identifier is a subject of increasing concern to the American people. This is, in large part, because the use of the Social Security number as a standard identifier facilitates the crime of identity theft. 5/22/01



    One of the most disturbing abuses of the Social Security number is the congressionally-authorized rule forcing parents to get a Social Security number for their newborn children in order to claim them as dependents. Forcing parents to register their children with the state is more like something out of the nightmares of George Orwell than the dreams of a free republic which inspired this nation's founders. 10/7/03



    If the new nation of America could defeat what was then the most powerful military empire in the world without a draft, there is no reason why we cannot address our current military needs with a voluntary military. 5/9/02




    If we can't or won't define the enemy, the cost to fight such a war will be endless. How many American troops are we prepared to lose? How much money are we prepared to spend? How many innocent civilians, in our nation and others, are we willing to see killed? How many American civilians will we jeopardize? How much of our civil liberties are we prepared to give up? 9/25/01



    I rise to urge the Congress to think twice before thrusting this nation into a war without merit- one fraught with the danger of escalating into something no American will be pleased with. 9/4/02


    There are even good political reasons for not initiating this conflict. War is not popular. It may seem popular in the short run, when there appears to be an immediate victory and everyone is gloating, but war is not popular. People get killed, and body bags end up coming back. War is very unpopular, and it is not the politically smart thing to do. 9/4/02



    Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups.... The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims... Rather than looking to government to correct our sins, we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty. (4/16/07)



    I hope all Americans will take the time to commemorate Juneteenth. Friends of human liberty should celebrate the end of slavery in any country. The end of American slavery is particularly worthy of recognition since there are few more blatant violations of America's founding principles, as expressed in the Declaration of Independence, than slavery. (6/21/05)



    I also question the priorities of singling out programs, such as Medicaid and food stamps, that benefit the neediest Americans, while continuing to increase spending on corporate welfare and foreign aid... I find it hard to believe that federal funding for Fortune 500 companies and China is a higher priority for most Americans than Medicaid and food stamps. (11/18/05)




    It's easy to talk about honoring veterans and their sacrifices, even while the federal government treats veterans badly. Congress wastes billions of dollars funding countless unconstitutional programs, but fails to provide adequately for the men and women who carry out the most important constitutional function: national defense. (4/4/05)




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    All quotes are by Ron Paul.
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    no more good quotes?
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