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Seller shipped my handgun by UPS Ground!

HobbyGuyHobbyGuy Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 2007 in General Discussion
Do you ever hear horror stories about FFL holders getting chewed up and spit out by the ATF? Well, here's a perfect example of one that should be. I purchased a handgun on Monday with the understanding that it would ship the following day (Tuesday). Well, it did. However, by UPS Ground and it won't be here until next Monday! I expected it to arrive today and made arrangements to meet a few buddies at the range to check it out. I'm still going to the range this afternoon, but I'm disappointed that I can't shoot the new pistol until late next week. Oh well, patience is a virtue (that I don't really have). [B)]
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  • duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Over night is NOT a BATFE rule. It is a UPS rule.
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  • ecyrbrcecyrbrc Member Posts: 87 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did you npay the price to ship it overnite??
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  • MosinNagantDiscipleMosinNagantDisciple Member Posts: 2,612
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by duckhunter
    Over night is NOT a BATFE rule. It is a UPS rule.


    +1, he broke no federal rules. But, if you spent the extra money to have it overnighted (and I assume you did since its a pistol), the FFL owner owes you an explanation and a refund for the shipping costs.
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  • jimbowbyjimbowby Member Posts: 3,496
    edited November -1
    [8D]--Youn mean you're GUN-LESS----

    --GOSH--
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    --JIMBO
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  • HandgunHTR52HandgunHTR52 Member Posts: 2,735
    edited November -1
    I thought it was a UPS requirement that handguns be shipped via Overnight. How did he get away with shipping it ground?
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  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Over night for handguns is not law, it's policy bt UPS and Fed-Ex and they can deny insurance claims if lost and sent by ground but no legal issued involved.

    I throw a cheap knife in the box with the gun and insure the "collector" knife for $600.
    ....................................................................................................
    Too old to live...too young to die...
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  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good luck Saxon, on collecting on a claim like that.
    You must prove "value",......otherwise you could ship a used diaper, and claim it is worth 500 bucks.
    Very bad advice.[xx(]
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HandgunHTR52
    I thought it was a UPS requirement that handguns be shipped via Overnight. How did he get away with shipping it ground?

    +1 You must declare it is a firearm to the shipper, (that is fed law) I wonder if he used USPS instead? that is the cheapest way to ship a handgun. I would ask the seller for a tracking number[:D]
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • drjincdrjinc Member Posts: 256 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is a UPS rule but I beleive I did read in my BATFE book that when shipping firearms you must follow the shippers rules. So that might make it illegal I do not have time to find the page right now but you could find it on www.atf.gov.
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ? 478.31 Delivery by common or con-tract
    carrier.
    (a) No person shall knowingly deliver or
    cause to be delivered to any common or
    contract carrier for transportation or ship-ment
    in interstate or foreign commerce to
    any person other than a licensed importer,
    licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or
    licensed collector, any package or other
    container in which there is any firearm or
    ammunition without written notice to the
    carrier that such firearm or ammunition is
    being transported or shipped:
    http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/2005/p53004/index.htm
    http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/2005/p53004/27cfr_part478.pdf
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • jhimcojhimco Member Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just be thanfull that you got the darn thing in one peice.[:D]
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  • HobbyGuyHobbyGuy Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep, I paid $47.75 for overnight (Red Label) shipping. [:(] I calculated the reverse shipment back by Ground UPS to cost $11.60. Cost really isn't as big of a factor as principal, but I am a little pissed about paying that much for nothing. [:(!]

    I had confused the ATF and UPS shipping requirements. Thank you to those that pointed my error out. [^]

    Jim
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  • HobbyGuyHobbyGuy Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jhimco
    Just be thanfull that you got the darn thing in one peice.[:D]



    I haven't received it yet. It's due to arrive next week (instead of today as anticipated). [:(]

    Jim
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  • AZEXAZEX Member Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The shipping dealer could've sent it USPS, as long as it's going to your dealer and the proper form is filled out.

    Can't go wrong with Priority Mail.

    D.
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