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Sounds a little fishy to me.

select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,518 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
May be some straw purchases but FFL dealers here in SC are tough.

'These Dealers Are The Worst Of The Worst'

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New York Files Suit Against Gun Dealers - Will Frampton Reports





New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg


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(Orangeburg) - Right around the time Woody's pawnshop opened its doors Monday morning, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg was making an announcement.

"This morning, we filed suit in Federal Court for the Eastern District of NY against 15 gun dealers who sold guns illegally," said Mayor Bloomberg.

Woody's pawnshop is listed as one of those gun dealers. New York City officials say they've traced 98 crime-related guns used from 1994-2001 back to the Orangeburg pawnshop. That's more than any of the 15 pawnshops named nationwide.

The store has operated in Orangeburg for 35 years. They say the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives heavily regulates them. They also told us everyone who buys a gun there must have a state drivers license and undergo a federal background check.

Still, Mayor Bloomberg says they've been engaged in bad business.

"These dealers are the worst of the worst," said New York's mayor. "They were either intentionally or negligently selling handguns in a matter than violates federal law."

Said Woody's manager Chan Holman, "We haven't intentionally sold any guns to people that shouldn't have them . we can't control what people do with their guns after they buy them here. We do everything we can here to put them in the right hands."

Mayor Bloomberg said dealers like Woody's are largely to blame for the crime in New York City.

"Firearms are used in roughly 60% of all the murders committed in our city," said Bloomberg. "Virtually all the guns to commit those murders are illegally possessed."

At Woody's pawn, they're having a hard time believing they're the ones behind any of it.

There is one more shop in South Carolina that made the list: Mickalis pawn in Summerville. They had 49 crime-related guns traced back to them.

Will Frampton, Reporter
Van O'Cain, New Media Manager


Updated: 5/16/2006 8:16:42 AM










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  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I love crappy Statistics.

    In 100% of cases the firearm crime "could" be traced back to a criminal.


    Im not saying that these FFL dealers did not do some shady dealings, just pointing out that statistics say what you want them to say and can always be rearranged to suit your needs.
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,073 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Criminals aren't always the idiots people think they are....if they looked into it I bet the guns were all purchased by LEGAL gun buyers and the transactions done the way a transfer is to be done.

    The criminals (more than likely) had every person they could get go in a buy guns LEGALLY...and then used those LEGALLY PURCHASED guns to commit crimes, or sold them to others who paid more for and "off the books" gun.

    Rather than go after the criminals....they are going after the guns (again.) They should go through the 4473's and prosecute the PEOPLE....not the system.
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Mayor Bloomberg said dealers like Woody's are largely to blame for the crime in New York City.

    Why doesnt he put the blame where it belongs, on the low life scum in his city that are committing these crimes.. Again blame the GUN..

    What an Idiot...

    NO GUNS = NO CRIME, what a crock of BS..This butt hole needs to get his stats straight,, more crimes with a knife in new york than guns..[:0]
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote: "Virtually all the guns to commit those murders are illegally possessed."





    That says it all right there.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why not put more time into catching and convicting the criminals and stop fooling around finding the bbbbBAD gun stores![V]
  • third_shot_flyerthird_shot_flyer Member Posts: 69 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    But...but...I don't understand. So...you're saying the criminals are not following the gun laws? You're saying that they somehow obtain guns even though the law says they can't? You expect me to believe that- even though New York has strict gun laws- criminals would be so low as to violate the law to get a gun? Wow. That's quite a concept.
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