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FBI plans to spend 100 Million on Ammo

TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
edited March 2013 in General Discussion
Quarter-billion new rounds also slated for DHS
Read more at http://www.DNW.com/2013/03/fbi-plans-to-spend-100-million-on-ammo/#VDbQPPo17mp2fQ1R.99



DNW recently reported that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has purchased well over a billion rounds of ammunition over the past year.

The magnitude of the federal government's ammunition buildup has been making headlines over the last few weeks, as members of the military, police departments and consumers are finding shelves bare when they want to buy ammunition.

Alarms over the situation have developed just as the Obama administration is pushing hard on its agenda of gun control.

But the full impact may not yet have developed, as DNW has uncovered plans by the FBI to spend up to $100 million over five years on millions of rounds for its machine guns and pistols.

According to a solicitation revised and released March 25 that DNW discovered during routine database research, the FBI is gathering this ammo "to be carried and fired [by FBI Special Agents] in defense of life" as well as for training purposes.

The ammunition includes a combination of field-ready Glock 9mm rounds as well as reduced-lead training ammo. Weapons specifically listed in the Statement of Work, or SOW, are Glock Model 17, Glock Model 19, Glock Model 26, SIG Sauer P226, SIG Sauer P228, Heckler and Koch MP5 9mm submachine gun (K, A2, A3, SF and SD versions).

"The FBI is the federal government's principal agency responsible for investigating violations of more than 260 federal statutes," the SOW points out. "As the investigative arm of the U.S. Department of Justice, FBI Special Agents (SA), in the pursuit of duty, may be involved in high threat assignments where deadly force may be used in the face of violent confrontations."

Contractors are peppering the bureau with questions as they jockey for position to secure this lucrative contract, the amended solicitation indicates. Once the FBI decides on a provider, that contractor will deliver the ammunition within 60 days to FBI facilities and "other approved federal government locations" in the continental U.S. as well as Hawaii , Alaska and Puerto Rico .

Hundreds of millions of rounds likewise are being ordered by the Department of Homeland Security, with more than a quarter-billion of them slated specifically for Customs and Border Protection training over five years.

Although DHS has not yet awarded contracts in that proposed CBP acquisition, late last year it revealed its intention to buy 250 million rounds of Smith & Wesson .40 ammo over the life of a five-year contract.

DHS yesterday separately issued a revised solicitation to buy a combination of 100,000 handgun and rifle rounds destined for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center , or FLTC, in Artesia , N.M. It did not disclose the estimated cost.

The department today additionally released another amended procurement notice for 360,000 rounds of jacketed hollow-point .40 caliber training ammo also destined for the Artseia FLTC.

InfoWars.com reported on the initial release of that particular procurement earlier this week.

Although the estimated cost of that solicitation likewise has not been disclosed, DHS last month awarded a $49,000 contract to Grace Ammo, LLC, for a similar batch of ammo for the Artesia facility.

DHS in January purchased an additional 200,000 rounds of jacketed hollow point .40 caliber rounds. It awarded a $46,000 contract to Evian Group, Inc., in that instance.


Read more at http://www.DNW.com/2013/03/fbi-plans-to-spend-100-million-on-ammo/#VDbQPPo17mp2fQ1R.99

Comments

  • brier-49brier-49 Member Posts: 7,095 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When they come for our guns ,, how many rounds per law abiding citizen does that mean!!
  • Bill JordanBill Jordan Member Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Or how many per citizen?
  • RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thats alot of 9mm for field issue Glock 23's and MP5/10's
  • Toned1Toned1 Member Posts: 92 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This seems strange with everything else that is going on. Maybe they are trying buy up all the supplies so no one else gets any
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Toned1
    This seems strange with everything else that is going on. Maybe they are trying buy up all the supplies so no one else gets any


    IMOP DHS is nothing more than a European model of a National Police force, and it is being sold "Softly" to the public for acceptance.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by austin20
    I wonder how many rounds per agent that breaks down to?
    On September 30, 2012, a total of 36,074 people worked for the FBI, including 13,913 special agents and 22,161 professional staff. LINK

    So... $100M works out to $2,772 per FBI 'person' employed by the FBI.
    But, knowing that NOT every single person employed by the FBI carries a weapon...
    I'd put that number at ~$4,000 per gun toter... [13913 +half of pro staff = 24,993]

    Now dependent upon what the FBI paid per round... If current costs are any indication.
    $1 a round wouldn't be far off... So you can probably figure $4,000 or 4,000 rounds per...
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe it is up to us to demand that the major Ammunition Manufacturers guarantee a percentage of their product for commercial sale. If this is indeed a back door attempt at gun control through limiting ammunition, then the Ammunition manufacturers are being complicit. It is time the Ammunition Companies stand up for our Rights in addition to the Firearms Arms Manufacturers!
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by brier-49
    When they come for our guns ,, how many rounds per law abiding citizen does that mean!!


    I read the estimate is five rounds per citizen.
  • lpaalplpaalp Member Posts: 951 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Articles like this are intended to inflame, or written out of ignorance, without sufficient research on the part of the author.

    Federal procurement/contracting practices (much like private sector) are designed to be flexible, cost effective, and efficient, while meeting stringent requirements imposed by statute. Not always achieved, but those mentioned are classic examples.

    The key words are "up to" some dollars or quantity. Secondly, solicitations or RFPs are not binding contractual documents, and denote no obligation to actually purchase/receive.

    Feds will award contracts such as these just to get the contract on the books, so they can order against it (for 5 years) with minimal effort and time to receive the ammo. The article mentions the maximum that can be purchased, but doesn't mention the minimum (there is usually a minimum quantity/dollar guaranteed). Since Fed contracts can take months to award, and because volume = lower prices, there is a great benefit to simply being able to place an order agains an existing contract. To determine the amount of ammo actually purchased, we would have to monitor the contract over its life span.

    Not to throw water on the various theories being proliferated... just trying to add a touch of reality to the discussion.
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some poster here can't see the forest for the trees
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