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Useful Idiots

TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
Did a search but found nothing on this. Tyranny looming?

When Adolf Hitler was building up the Nazi movement in the 1920s, leading up to his taking power in the 1930s, he deliberately sought to activate people who did not normally pay much attention to politics.

Such people were a valuable addition to his political base, since they were particularly susceptible to Hitler's rhetoric and had far less basis for questioning his assumptions or his conclusions.

"Useful idiots" was the term supposedly coined by V.I. Lenin to describe similarly unthinking supporters of his dictatorship in the Soviet Union.

Put differently, a democracy needs informed citizens if it is to thrive, or ultimately even survive.

In our times, American democracy is being dismantled, piece by piece, before our very eyes by the current administration in Washington, and few people seem to be concerned about it.

The president's poll numbers are going down because increasing numbers of people disagree with particular policies of his, but the damage being done to the fundamental structure of this nation goes far beyond particular counterproductive policies.

Just where in the Constitution of the United States does it say that a president has the authority to extract vast sums of money from a private enterprise and distribute it as he sees fit to whomever he deems worthy of compensation? Nowhere.

And yet that is precisely what is happening with a $20 billion fund to be provided by BP to compensate people harmed by their oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Many among the public and in the media may think that the issue is simply whether BP's oil spill has damaged many people, who ought to be compensated.

But our government is supposed to be "a government of laws and not of men."

If our laws and our institutions determine that BP ought to pay $20 billion - or $50 billion or $100 billion - then so be it.

But the Constitution says that private property is not to be confiscated by the government without "due process of law."

Technically, it has not been confiscated by Barack Obama, but that is a distinction without a difference.

With vastly expanded powers of government available at the discretion of politicians and bureaucrats, private individuals and organizations can be forced into accepting the imposition of powers that were never granted to the government by the Constitution.

If you believe that the end justifies the means, then you don't believe in constitutional government.

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  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This was emailed to me today. I thought it would be interesting to share with all of you.

    "Useful Idiots


    Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.......
    Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings, and Obama writes about him in his books.
    Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA
    Education: University of Chicago
    Spouse: Irene Alinsky
    Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals.
    You know how authors will dedicate a book (especially their first book) to a loved one or a respected mentor? Alinsky dedicated
    Rules for Radicals to Lucifer, the first radical.
    Anyone out there think that the following isn't happening today in the U.S. ?
    How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:
    There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important:

    1) Healthcare: Control healthcare and you control the people.

    2) Poverty: Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

    3) Debt: Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

    4) Gun Control: Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

    5) Welfare : Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

    6) Education: Take control of what people read and listen to and take control of what children learn in school.

    7) Religion: Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

    8) Class Warfare: Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent, and it will be easier to take from (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

    Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?
    Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots."
    (Sounds like something we have just been hearing lately regarding how Obamacare was passed).
    The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control.
    It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
    If people can read this and still say everything is just fine, they are (by definition) useful idiots."
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How our country is being run.

    .

    EIGHT LEVELS OF CONTROL


    Saul Alinsky died 43 years ago, but his writings influenced

    those in political control of our nation today...



    Recall that( Hillary) did her college thesis on his writings, and

    Obama writes about him in his books.



    Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA


    Education: University of Chicago


    Spouse: Irene Alinsky


    Books: Rules for Radicals; Reveille for Radicals


    Does anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today

    in the United States of America?



    All eight rules are currently in play!



    How to create a Socialist State, by Saul Alinsky:



    There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before

    you are able to create a Social State. The first is the most

    important.




    1) Healthcare --- Control healthcare and you control the people.




    2) Poverty --- Increase the poverty level as high as possible.

    Poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you

    are providing everything for them to live.


    3) Debt --- Increase the debt to an unsustainable level... that

    way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more

    poverty.


    4) Gun Control --- Remove the ability for citizens to defend

    themselves from the Government. That way you are able to

    create a Police State.


    5) Welfare --- Take control of every aspect of people's lives...

    (Food, Housing and Income).


    6) Education --- Take control of what people read and what

    people listen to - take control of what children learn in school.



    7) Religion --- Remove the belief in God from schools and the

    government.



    8) Class Warfare --- Divide the people into the wealthy and the

    poor. This will cause more discontent, and it will be easier to

    take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.



    Does any of this sound like what is happening in the United States?




    Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for

    world conquest by Communism under Russian rule.




    Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots."


    These "Useful Idiots" have destroyed every nation in which they

    have seized power and control.



    It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.



    If people can read this and still say everything is just fine.

    they are indeed "Useful Idiots!"



    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Useful idiot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In political jargon, the term useful idiot was used to describe Soviet sympathizers in Western countries. The implication is that though the person in ...
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    Urban Dictionary: Useful idiot

    Term invented in Soviet Russia to describe people who blindly supported the likes of Lenin and Stalin while they committed atrocity after atrocity....
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    Tool - Useful Idiot - Video, listening & stats at Last.fm

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    Power Line - A useful idiot murdered

    18 Apr 2011 ... Last week an Italian friend of Hamas who had taken up residence in the Gaza Strip was murdered by Islamists...
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/04/028843.php
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    Weasel Zippers ? Blog Archive ? Useful Idiot: While in North Korea ...

    28 Apr 2011 ... Useful Idiot: While in North Korea Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of "Human Rights Violations". He's really fighting hard to retain the title of ...
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    Laura Ingraham Calls Meghan McCain A "Useful Idiot"

    17 Mar 2009 ... In the latest insult, Ingraham sent out an email calling McCain a "useful idiot" who is only gaining any traction in the media because she's ...
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/17/laura-ingraham-calls-megh_n_175591.html
    Useful Idiots on the Left - Alexander's Essays - PatriotPost.US

    24 Sep 2004 ... Western apologists for socialist political and economic agendas are nothing more than "useful idiots" advocating Marxist-Leninist-Maoist ...
    http://patriotpost.us/alexander/2004/09/24/useful-idiots-on-the-left/
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  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Urban Dictionary: Useful idiot

    Term invented in Soviet Russia to describe people who blindly supported the likes of Lenin and Stalin while they committed atrocity after atrocity....
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Useful idiot
  • popgunpopgun Member Posts: 670
    edited November -1
    A more detailed list, rather than the Leftist "Snopes" paraphrasing...

    http://www.bestofbeck.com/wp/activism/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think everybody should read The Communist Manifesto and Das Capital by Karl Marx before they read Alinski. Both will give the reader considerable insight on exactly the direction the democrat party is taking our country.
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    Another interesting read:

    Cloward/Piven
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    a government that sticks to these principles should be immune to attacks by those deceitful anarchists.

    1. freedom for all

    2. fair and just government by the consent of the people

    3. no arbitrary or capricious actions by those in power (i.e. strictly the rule of law)



    if you argue for such a government, you are blameless. their arguments fall apart.

    so it must be the true way to go.
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