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Opinions on air compressors.

FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
Well my Harbor Frieght 10 gal. compressor died on me after only 3 years of VERY light use. So I'm in the market for a new one.
Going w/a bigger one this time. 10gal just wasn't big enough anyway.
Looking at 2 in my price range.
The Sears Craftsman 26 gal standup model. And the Lowes Kobalt 26 gal standup.
Both are within $50. of one another in price.
The Sears one is on sale now for $299.
The Kobalt is $328. and comes w/some air tools.
Any opinions?

Comments

  • screwobamascrewobama Member Posts: 625
    edited November -1
    I bet if you looked hard enough you could find a quality older air compressor for about $150- $200 in the classifieds. The same rule that applies to aircraft part QC also applies to compressors-just because it's shiney dosen't mean it's good!
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually tank size is only part of the Comparison. Look at CFM out put and at what pressure. May even find a Smaller tank that has a better CFM output.

    What voltage are these taking.
  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    I would go with the sears model. had one at the last house for 8 yrs, no problems. (sold it at a moving sale)
    i have a cambell now and it's great, but kinda pricey.
    the verticle tank units are harder to move around (top heavy) so my next one will be a horizontal tank. (sears has them)
    just my 2c
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,869 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    All things being equal on the two you checked, I would buy the Sears one on sale. Personally I would not buy one of those oilless compressors because the ones I have been around are quite noisy.
  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually they are not Equal.

    Sears(Note they have a horizontal also)
    90 PSI at 4.9 CFM

    Lowes (Kobalt)
    90 PSI at 3.5 CFM

    But what I picked up is a
    Sears
    25 Gal Professional
    90 PSI 5.8 CFM and a Max of 150 PSI Great for the Air guns to break loose stubborn nuts. Build up pressure fast and does not seem to lose pressure as fast as my old one.
    Which was the 26 Gal one.
  • FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    What does CFM stand for?
  • burdz19burdz19 Member Posts: 4,145
    edited November -1
    I don't know about smaller compressors, but I have 2 Quincy's and 1 new Kaeser for my shop.... if either the Craftsman or the Kobalt is made by Kaeser RUN. I've had nothing but problems with mine, and my maintenance supervisor is about ready to fight the next Techie they send out to work on it, bad product and their service blows .....

    just my .02

    b
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,869 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    Cubic feet per minute.
  • FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MT357
    Cubic feet per minute.

    I kinda figured that. But I guess I should've asked how it relates to compressors. I assume more is better? How does one determine air recovery rate? (IE: how fast it recharges w/air).
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Recovery will depend on what you are using the Air Compressor for.


    How the CFM relates is. Look at your tools, they will have a CFM rating that is required to run them.

    Stuff like 1/4 and 3/8 air tools do not take much. But and Air sander will even make mine work to hard and I will be waiting for the Air Compressor to catch up.

    If you plan on Blasting with sand or some other Media you will need to rent a big Compressor cause they really eat the air.

    See if I can find a table of common CFM ratings for tools.


    Check this page.

    http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-consumption-tools-d_847.html

    Then go to the home page and read whatthe terms mean. Good site for picking you compressor.
  • FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MT357
    All things being equal on the two you checked, I would buy the Sears one on sale. Personally I would not buy one of those oilless compressors because the ones I have been around are quite noisy.

    Not really worried about noise. I keep and use my compressor in an outside shed. Light use, mainly cleaning the (nearby) A/C unit, blowing grass off mower deck, filling portable air tank for airing up tires.
    Mainly interested in which one is likely the most durable. I don't want to buy one every few years.
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,869 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
    quote:Originally posted by MT357
    Cubic feet per minute.

    I kinda figured that. But I guess I should've asked how it relates to compressors. I assume more is better? How does one determine air recovery rate? (IE: how fast it recharges w/air).
    Somewhyere in the specs for the compressor it will say how many CFM it will pump at 90psi(or some pressure rating). The more the better of course.
  • countryfarmercountryfarmer Member Posts: 4,552
    edited November -1
    My personal opinion, screw Kobalt-I have one and if you need parts be prepared to pay out the butt for them. Sears, use to make good compressers and if no othe roptions I would go with them. As said before , I would avoid the oilless ones, they are noisey and I have not had good luck with them.

    If you have a TSC anywhere nearby I would go with the Campbell Hausfield, that is what we have in our shop right now. 60 gal upright tank, and 135PSI and they have them for $399 here is a link http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10551_10001_48803_-1______14151%7C14152%7C14169%7C48803?listingPage=true&Special=false
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    Save your old 10 gallon tank and add it inline as extra reserve. I never discard the tanks of old compressors. You never have enough storage.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dheffley
    Save your old 10 gallon tank and add it inline as extra reserve. I never discard the tanks of old compressors. You never have enough storage.


    Figure with all of my lines running in the Garage I have at least another 10 Gal.[:o)]

    Made one of these and a cooling tower.

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    I have very little Moisuture in my Air. And this is in Oregon.
  • FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dheffley
    Save your old 10 gallon tank and add it inline as extra reserve. I never discard the tanks of old compressors. You never have enough storage.

    I do plan on keeping it. Plan to try to make it into a larger portable for airing up car tires.
  • FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by countryfarmer
    My personal opinion, screw Kobalt-I have one and if you need parts be prepared to pay out the butt for them. Sears, use to make good compressers and if no othe roptions I would go with them. As said before , I would avoid the oilless ones, they are noisey and I have not had good luck with them.

    If you have a TSC anywhere nearby I would go with the Campbell Hausfield, that is what we have in our shop right now. 60 gal upright tank, and 135PSI and they have them for $399 here is a link http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10551_10001_48803_-1______14151%7C14152%7C14169%7C48803?listingPage=true&Special=false

    I like the Campbell Hausfield 26 Gal. upright model. Any other opinions on C-H quality/durabilty?
  • kabarkabar Member Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MT357
    All things being equal on the two you checked, I would buy the Sears one on sale. Personally I would not buy one of those oilless compressors because the ones I have been around are quite noisy.

    Stay away from Sears oilless compressors. They're nothing but junk. I just replaced mine with an Ingersoll Rand with an 80gal tank. I talked to a Sears service man who worked for Sears for 13yrs and he told me the oilless compressors were the biggest problems they had. Some only lasted 3 months and the pumps burned out. Sears warranties aren't worth the paper there printed on.
    If you can, get the best you can afford because you won't regret it. Don't waste your money junk.
  • savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,504 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kabar
    quote:Originally posted by MT357
    All things being equal on the two you checked, I would buy the Sears one on sale. Personally I would not buy one of those oilless compressors because the ones I have been around are quite noisy.

    Stay away from Sears oilless compressors. They're nothing but junk. I just replaced mine with an Ingersoll Rand with an 80gal tank. I talked to a Sears service man who worked for Sears for 13yrs and he told me the oilless compressors were the biggest problems they had. Some only lasted 3 months and the pumps burned out. Sears warranties aren't worth the paper there printed on.
    If you can, get the best you can afford because you won't regret it. Don't waste your money junk.


    +1 the oilless ones are throw aways Grainger has some in the 500.00 dollar range that are decent plus good parts support
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,093 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
    Well my Harbor Frieght 10 gal. compressor died on me after only 3 years of VERY light use. So I'm in the market for a new one.
    Going w/a bigger one this time. 10gal just wasn't big enough anyway.
    Looking at 2 in my price range.
    The Sears Craftsman 26 gal standup model. And the Lowes Kobalt 26 gal standup.
    Both are within $50. of one another in price.
    The Sears one is on sale now for $299.
    The Kobalt is $328. and comes w/some air tools.
    Any opinions?


    I have the Kobalt 80 gallon twin cylinder two stage. I have had it for 4 years and have never had a problem. I put compressors in a separate room (so I don't have to listen to them) and put an electric remote control valve so I don't have to go in there but once a week to drain the tank.

    The eighty gallon tank is supplemented by twin 3" copper supply lines that run the length of the 50 foot shop. My guess is that the plummer that built this shop had them left over from a job.

    Just a tad bit overkill would be my guess.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

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    Mark Twain
  • lindalecowboylindalecowboy Member Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My stand up Sears is VERY NOISY, I never heard it run before I bought it so you might think of that and try to listen to it run first.
  • asphalt cowboyasphalt cowboy Member Posts: 8,904 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
    quote:Originally posted by countryfarmer
    My personal opinion, screw Kobalt-I have one and if you need parts be prepared to pay out the butt for them. Sears, use to make good compressers and if no othe roptions I would go with them. As said before , I would avoid the oilless ones, they are noisey and I have not had good luck with them.

    If you have a TSC anywhere nearby I would go with the Campbell Hausfield, that is what we have in our shop right now. 60 gal upright tank, and 135PSI and they have them for $399 here is a link http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10551_10001_48803_-1______14151%7C14152%7C14169%7C48803?listingPage=true&Special=false

    I like the Campbell Hausfield 26 Gal. upright model. Any other opinions on C-H quality/durabilty?


    I've got a 6 horse 26 gallon horizontal tank I've run the snott out of in the past twelve years. No issues yet. But then, I take care of it also.
  • bartobarto Member Posts: 4,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 7 1/2 hp Ingersol has been running faithfully for 12 yrs. now.
    The guy who GAVE it to me got 15 yrs. of service from it.
    IMO get a good older one, the new ones are mostly junk, unless you get in over $1200.
    [^]barto[^]
  • JohnnylikesgunsJohnnylikesguns Member Posts: 2,887 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The last compressor I bought cost $38,000 and makes 6,000 pis.

    Oh, I'm also chief of a fire dept.
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