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3000' a minute descend

select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
I couldn't imagine what those passengers were going thru for approx. the 10 minutes till they crashed. Looking out the windows and seeing the ground approaching and watching their Pilot trying to gain access to the cabin.


PARIS (Reuters) - The autopilot on the Germanwings Airbus A320 that crashed in the French Alps on Tuesday was switched to descend to 100 feet, its lowest possible setting, before it began its fatal plunge, according to data from a specialist aviation tracking service.

French prosecutors say 28-year-old German co-pilot Andreas Lubitz locked himself in the cockpit and adjusted the altitude setting on the Airbus A320, sending it plunging from its cruise altitude of 38,000 feet at a rate of 3,000 feet a minute.

Online web tracking service FlightRadar24 said its analysis of satellite tracking data had found that someone had changed the altitude to the minimum setting possible of 100 feet: well below the crash site lying at about 6,000 feet.

"Between 09:30:52 and 09:30:55 you can see that the autopilot was manually changed from 38,000 feet to 100 feet and 9 seconds later the aircraft started to descend, probably with the 'open descent' autopilot setting," Fredrik Lindahl, chief executive of the Swedish tracking service said by email.

He said FlightRadar24 had shared its data with French crash investigators at their request. The French BEA crash investigation agency was not available for comment

Comments

  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So very strange, if he's decided to kill himself and all on board why not go into a steep dive and end it quickly, why make it last? Obviously there is no real understanding of what is going through a person's mind that would do this, but it just seems strange that he'd make it last longer than it needed too unless he took something that rendered him unconscious once he changed the settings.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I always try and look at all angles. Now they are saying he had a hidden medical issue. Really? He passed all their tests to fly. Kinda looking like to me they may be wanting to promote the fact he is actually the reason it crashed. Overselling it does not convince me totally. I would like to see the manifest and see who was on board. Was there anything in any of their background that could be political or anything scientific? After all we do have drones that fly of course unmanned. If a plane can fly unmanned what makes one think a manned plane couldn't be overridden by a ground source.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Airbus is a fly-by-wire aircraft. The computer makes most decisions, based upon its programming. The pilot at the controls set descent to the maximum; he couldn't override the computer & deliberately dive, even if unforeseeable events occurred that made that the "right" choice.

    Boeing's have a similar system, but the pilot can always override the computer. A good reason to look for a made-in-the-USA sticker on your airplane.

    Neal
  • WranglerWrangler Member Posts: 5,788
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    The Airbus is a fly-by-wire aircraft. The computer makes most decisions, based upon its programming. The pilot at the controls set descent to the maximum; he couldn't override the computer & deliberately dive, even if unforeseeable events occurred that made that the "right" choice.

    Boeing's have a similar system, but the pilot can always override the computer. A good reason to look for a made-in-the-USA sticker on your airplane.

    Neal


    The computer is smart enough to avoid a dive, but can't figure out it is about to smash into a mountain???? Or can the collision avoidance be turned off?
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The passengers probably didn't realize the plane was going to crash at that slow rate of decent. The black box did not record any passengers screaming until the last few seconds.
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    3000'/min is by no means slow. It's a drop rate of about 25 mph and should have been quite apparent to the passengers.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Plane is dropping 50 foot a second.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nord
    3000'/min is by no means slow. It's a drop rate of about 25 mph and should have been quite apparent to the passengers.


    BS! It took 10 minutes to hit the ground if that's not slow I don't know what is but of course you are the expert on every damn thing in the world.
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