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The push is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws regulating who gets reported to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, which is used to prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the country illegally and others.
A potentially large group within Social Security are people who, in the language of federal gun laws, are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease."
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There is no simple way to identify that group, but a strategy used by the Department of Veterans Affairs since the creation of the background check system is reporting anyone who has been declared incompetent to manage pension or disability payments and assigned a fiduciary.
If Social Security, which has never participated in the background check system, uses the same standard as the VA, millions of its beneficiaries would be affected. About 4.2 million adults receive monthly benefits that are managed by "representative payees."
I would agree to those that are on mental disability, but the government often make those that are not on mental disability have a payee, and they would expand this to all social security benifits
How about no guns for the welfare elite?
I hope these gun ban jerks get into a situation where an armed citizen could help them out but tells them since you are so against guns I will watch and laugh.
I would agree to those that are on mental disability, but the government often make those that are not on mental disability have a payee, and they would expand this to all social security benifits
If you can't manage a Social Security check, you probably can't manage a loaded gun either..
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
I would agree to those that are on mental disability, but the government often make those that are not on mental disability have a payee, and they would expand this to all social security benifits
If you can't manage a Social Security check, you probably can't manage a loaded gun either..
I guess you don't know anyone on ssi ?
in most cases here its non-optional you have to have a payee regardless of your abilities
I guess you don't know anyone on ssi ?
in most cases here its non-optional you have to have a payee regardless of your abilities
I know plenty of people on SSI and people on SSD.
There are more than a couple right here on the forum. How many of them were forced to have a payee against their wishes?
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
I would agree to those that are on mental disability, but the government often make those that are not on mental disability have a payee, and they would expand this to all social security benifits
If you can't manage a Social Security check, you probably can't manage a loaded gun either..
My Dad had me as a Representative Payee because of his mobility issues. As to his intellectual acumen, until the day he died he possessed more than enough sense to avoid making silly blanket statements.
Would that you possessed the same ability.
My Dad had me as a Representative Payee because of his mobility issues. As to his intellectual acumen, until the day he died he possessed more than enough sense to avoid making silly blanket statements.
Would that you possessed the same ability.
In this case, I will admit to being guilty as charged.
It was a blanket statement and further reflection makes me reconsider.
A representative payee can be put into place for reasons not related to mental health (although that is a big reason) and does not require the sanction of a doctor, judge, or jury.
Thank you for pointing out my error.
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
My Dad had me as a Representative Payee because of his mobility issues. As to his intellectual acumen, until the day he died he possessed more than enough sense to avoid making silly blanket statements.
Would that you possessed the same ability.
In this case, I will admit to being guilty as charged.
It was a blanket statement and further reflection makes me reconsider.
A representative payee can be put into place for reasons not related to mental health (although that is a big reason) and does not require the sanction of a doctor, judge, or jury.
Thank you for pointing out my error.
your welcome, thanks for taking my word [:D]
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
My Dad had me as a Representative Payee because of his mobility issues. As to his intellectual acumen, until the day he died he possessed more than enough sense to avoid making silly blanket statements.
Would that you possessed the same ability.
In this case, I will admit to being guilty as charged.
It was a blanket statement and further reflection makes me reconsider.
A representative payee can be put into place for reasons not related to mental health (although that is a big reason) and does not require the sanction of a doctor, judge, or jury.
Thank you for pointing out my error.
Sorry to have gotten a bit wound up on my end. Kinda let that one get to me more than I am sure you intended. Still miss him and it hits me hard sometimes.
I am not sure why'd you call it ignorance. He knows exactly what he is doing, he has calculated the cost and benefits and this fits right into his overall plan for America. He doesn't violate the Constitution out of ignorance, it is motivated by his contempt for the Constitution.
yes he does
pass this bill, then later require ALL social security recipients to have a payee
you retire, lose your guns or your benefits
I you believe any restriction is right go to a country with the restrictions you want. But don't tread on m