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Why I won't be closing my fleabay account
jonk
Member Posts: 10,121
I, like everyone else, am mad and discouraged about ebay's new anti gun parts/components/etc. policy. I think it is bad business sense, political, fear driven, and prejudicial.
However.
While individual sellers are not connected with ebay per se, ebay itself IS a privately run business, i.e. a brokrage firm. They can decide what merchandise they will sell, and reserve the right to refuse anyone service so long as their policy is stated- just like grocery stores say no shirt, no shoes, no service. So long as the government isn't forcing it on them, I don't see a problem- unlike the recent Ohio smoking ban.
As a conservative with a libertarian bent, I fully support their right to run their business however they want- and support my right and your rights not to patronize their business. Ergo, I will NOT be doing further business with ebay as they will no longer have or accept for sale goods in which I'm interested- but I will not close my account either. It's like free speech- I fully support your right to say things that aggravate the heck out of me- so long as you don't expect me to have to listen.
However.
While individual sellers are not connected with ebay per se, ebay itself IS a privately run business, i.e. a brokrage firm. They can decide what merchandise they will sell, and reserve the right to refuse anyone service so long as their policy is stated- just like grocery stores say no shirt, no shoes, no service. So long as the government isn't forcing it on them, I don't see a problem- unlike the recent Ohio smoking ban.
As a conservative with a libertarian bent, I fully support their right to run their business however they want- and support my right and your rights not to patronize their business. Ergo, I will NOT be doing further business with ebay as they will no longer have or accept for sale goods in which I'm interested- but I will not close my account either. It's like free speech- I fully support your right to say things that aggravate the heck out of me- so long as you don't expect me to have to listen.
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I DID buy a laser / white light combo a couple of weeks ago though.
Was the best price around![:D][8D]
I will keep mine also, as I never bought firearm related merchandise anyway.
I DID buy a laser / white light combo a couple of weeks ago though.
Was the best price around![:D][8D]
There's a legend that the first item sold on eBay was a broken laser pointer which was bought for three times the price of a new one. The description also specified that it was broken but someone still bought it. Isn't free market wonderful?
I do not do business with stupid businesses. If they can't be trusted to understand the law then I will not trust them with my money.
I, like everyone else, am mad and discouraged about ebay's new anti gun parts/components/etc. policy. I think it is bad business sense, political, fear driven, and prejudicial.
However.
While individual sellers are not connected with ebay per se, ebay itself IS a privately run business, i.e. a brokrage firm. They can decide what merchandise they will sell, and reserve the right to refuse anyone service so long as their policy is stated- just like grocery stores say no shirt, no shoes, no service. So long as the government isn't forcing it on them, I don't see a problem- unlike the recent Ohio smoking ban.
As a conservative with a libertarian bent, I fully support their right to run their business however they want- and support my right and your rights not to patronize their business. Ergo, I will NOT be doing further business with ebay as they will no longer have or accept for sale goods in which I'm interested- but I will not close my account either. It's like free speech- I fully support your right to say things that aggravate the heck out of me- so long as you don't expect me to have to listen.
Well put and agreed as to my dislike of the position they take and of their right to do so if they wish. We can take our business elsewhere if we choose to do so, but ebay can take any position it wants, period.
It is owned by private business, and they can make any "rules" that they wish to. Same thing goes on here all the time, just this site makes its money from firearms.
The free market, is called that for a reason,........if you have a "bug" about eBay, don't use it anymore, or close your account.
Can't live by the "rules" here,.......leave, and close your auction account also.
I don't "personally" agree with their policy, and believe it to be incredibly left wing PC, but they have the right.
As far as doing business with a "stupid business",.......eBay is only a platform for bringing sellers and buyers together. It does not mean that the seller you may purchase something from is "stupid".
The seller pays the fees, so they are the ones "supporting" eBay, not me, as I am only a buyer![;)]
I, like everyone else, am mad and discouraged about ebay's new anti gun parts/components/etc. policy. I think it is bad business sense, political, fear driven, and prejudicial.
However.
While individual sellers are not connected with ebay per se, ebay itself IS a privately run business, i.e. a brokrage firm. They can decide what merchandise they will sell, and reserve the right to refuse anyone service so long as their policy is stated- just like grocery stores say no shirt, no shoes, no service. So long as the government isn't forcing it on them, I don't see a problem- unlike the recent Ohio smoking ban.
As a conservative with a libertarian bent, I fully support their right to run their business however they want- and support my right and your rights not to patronize their business. Ergo, I will NOT be doing further business with ebay as they will no longer have or accept for sale goods in which I'm interested- but I will not close my account either. It's like free speech- I fully support your right to say things that aggravate the heck out of me- so long as you don't expect me to have to listen.
Unlike you I have my morals!
I refuse to do buisness with any places that do not allow me to carry my gun in concealed too!
To me it is a matter of princible!
Why do these places want to punish the law abideing citizen?
I'll tell you why! It is to ferther thier ajenda!
The anti's will not rest untill they have taken our 2nd ammendment rights compleatly!
how nice, you get to have one foot in each door.
now thats standing up for a cause![:o)]
Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
Former NSSA All American
Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
MO, CT, VA.
They recently offered several free/reduced listings and such and I passed on them even though I often used them in the past. I think the loss of "gun related business" is already starting to take effect.
Best way is to hurt them in their pocketbook. Money talks.
quote:Originally posted by jonk
I, like everyone else, am mad and discouraged about ebay's new anti gun parts/components/etc. policy. I think it is bad business sense, political, fear driven, and prejudicial.
However.
While individual sellers are not connected with ebay per se, ebay itself IS a privately run business, i.e. a brokrage firm. They can decide what merchandise they will sell, and reserve the right to refuse anyone service so long as their policy is stated- just like grocery stores say no shirt, no shoes, no service. So long as the government isn't forcing it on them, I don't see a problem- unlike the recent Ohio smoking ban.
As a conservative with a libertarian bent, I fully support their right to run their business however they want- and support my right and your rights not to patronize their business. Ergo, I will NOT be doing further business with ebay as they will no longer have or accept for sale goods in which I'm interested- but I will not close my account either. It's like free speech- I fully support your right to say things that aggravate the heck out of me- so long as you don't expect me to have to listen.
Unlike you I have my morals!
I refuse to do buisness with any places that do not allow me to carry my gun in concealed too!
To me it is a matter of princible!
Why do these places want to punish the law abideing citizen?
I'll tell you why! It is to ferther thier ajenda!
The anti's will not rest untill they have taken our 2nd ammendment rights compleatly!
would your "matter of princible" also include message boards that don't let you say what you really want without the fear of being poofed or account locked.[?][?][?]
I am not trying to flame anybody but I really don't see a difference.
quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
quote:Originally posted by jonk
I, like everyone else, am mad and discouraged about ebay's new anti gun parts/components/etc. policy. I think it is bad business sense, political, fear driven, and prejudicial.
However.
While individual sellers are not connected with ebay per se, ebay itself IS a privately run business, i.e. a brokrage firm. They can decide what merchandise they will sell, and reserve the right to refuse anyone service so long as their policy is stated- just like grocery stores say no shirt, no shoes, no service. So long as the government isn't forcing it on them, I don't see a problem- unlike the recent Ohio smoking ban.
As a conservative with a libertarian bent, I fully support their right to run their business however they want- and support my right and your rights not to patronize their business. Ergo, I will NOT be doing further business with ebay as they will no longer have or accept for sale goods in which I'm interested- but I will not close my account either. It's like free speech- I fully support your right to say things that aggravate the heck out of me- so long as you don't expect me to have to listen.
Unlike you I have my morals!
I refuse to do buisness with any places that do not allow me to carry my gun in concealed too!
To me it is a matter of princible!
Why do these places want to punish the law abideing citizen?
I'll tell you why! It is to ferther thier ajenda!
The anti's will not rest untill they have taken our 2nd ammendment rights compleatly!
would your "matter of princible" also include message boards that don't let you say what you really want without the fear of being poofed or account locked.[?][?][?]
I am not trying to flame anybody but I really don't see a difference.
That fall totally different!
Take here for instance! All they are promoting is a friendly atmosfear with a PG rateing because kids do have access to these forums! And if some poofing and such needs to happen for that to take place then it needs to be done!
I know I sure wouldn't want my kids stumbleing upon a forum that was above a PG rateing!
A buisness that does not allow me to legally carry my firearm is makeing a statement! They are saying that even though the state has determand that I am trained and have the right to carry my gun in a legal matter they do not trust me or trust firearms that may also protect them if the need ever came up! Either way, it tells me they do not want me to spend my money thier!
Banning the sale of guns and asessories on ebay does the same thing! They are saying that the averege person is not capible of handleing a firearm!
I also know from living out in California (were fleabay is from) that they are anti 2nd ammendment as are a large percentage of others from the bay area!
So therefore it is well within my rights to make sure that they in no way profit from any sales or purchases that I may make!
Take here for instance! All they are promoting is a friendly atmosfear with a PG rateing because kids do have access to these forums! And if some poofing and such needs to happen for that to take place then it needs to be done!
I know I sure wouldn't want my kids stumbleing upon a forum that was above a PG rateing!
A buisness that does not allow me to legally carry my firearm is makeing a statement! They are saying that even though the state has determand that I am trained and have the right to carry my gun in a legal matter they do not trust me or trust firearms that may also protect them if the need ever came up! Either way, it tells me they do not want me to spend my money thier!
Banning the sale of guns and asessories on ebay does the same thing! They are saying that the averege person is not capible of handleing a firearm!
I also know from living out in California (were fleabay is from) that they are anti 2nd ammendment as are a large percentage of others from the bay area!
So therefore it is well within my rights to make sure that they in no way profit from any sales or purchases that I may make!
I think what ebay did sucks, I wont be making any more purchases on Ebay. But I have seen plenty of PG rated threads in this board get poofed because someone didn't like what was being said. I love my 2nd amendment rights and I also like my first. I'm not saying that this board is anywhere near a radical as Ebay but at times it is no different. I hope this thread dont get poofed.[:D]