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Why do they make holsters like this one???

n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
edited September 2010 in General Discussion
This is the only holster I can find for a S&W 329 NG that rides low enough to carry a pack with...and even it rides a little high for packs that are designed to work with a gun belt. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why they left the trigger exposed.?.? If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.



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The other problem with this holster is the fact that it's completely enclosed on the bottom...which is going to trap dirt, debris, etc.

I've only found one other option and that's a Galco Holster made specifically for S&W (I bought it through S&W's website). It's a strong side belt holster and it rides way too high for a pack...it also doesn't completely cover the barrel. It has an open bottom to allow debris to fall out, but it leaves a half inch of the barrel and the front sight exposed.
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  • Simple ManSimple Man Member Posts: 3,252
    edited November -1
    Check out Simply Rugged. They make custom holsters for what you need. And your right, why isn't the trigger covered.
  • OdawgpOdawgp Member Posts: 5,380 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.


    So tell me, how does the tree branch press the trigger when at the same time it is lifting the gun from the holster?
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.


    So tell me, how does the tree branch press the trigger when at the same time it is lifting the gun from the holster?























    Obviously you haven't spent much time hiking in the rugged Rocky Mountains. Half the time I'm crawling through brush so thick you can's see 5' in front of you...the other half the time, I'm falling down, etc. etc.
  • OdawgpOdawgp Member Posts: 5,380 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dano
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.


    So tell me, how does the tree branch press the trigger when at the same time it is lifting the gun from the holster?

    When it comes to EEC, anything is possible.

    Oh I have no doubt, he can probably even get a primer to go bang while crushing it in a bench top vice [B)]
  • OdawgpOdawgp Member Posts: 5,380 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.


    So tell me, how does the tree branch press the trigger when at the same time it is lifting the gun from the holster?


    Obviously you haven't spent much time hiking in the rugged Rocky Mountains. Half the time I'm crawling through brush so thick you can's see 5' in front of you...the other half the time, I'm falling down, etc. etc.


    only 32yrs (grew up in Utah hunting the Unitas and live in Colorado in which I have no doubt is every bit as rugged as Idaho)

    long enough to know that what you say could happen is statistically nearly almost as impossible as it is physically impossible

    try it with an unloaded gun,, no wait better yet us a plastic one I'd hate to hear you shot yourself with an completely unloaded firearm
  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look at the Don Hume H-717. They are open bottom and cover the trigger.
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This one covers the trigger guard more
    http://www.epsaddlery.com/pc-72-20-77-tortilla-holster.aspx

    This is full on protection but might be a little too slow for a fast draw.

    http://www.epsaddlery.com/pc-88-26-2000-full-flap-holster.aspx

    I use El Paso's holsters but I think you really should take a look at the suggested Simply Rugged stuff--it should be exactly what you are looking for in their Sourdough line http://www.simplyrugged.com/store/index.html
    Also their Chesty Puller rig might be better for someone with a backpack on.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dano
    He talks to Gawd on a daily basis.

    That in itself, is enough for me to keep my distance.






    Wise man...didn't think I'd ever say that to you.[;)]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.


    So tell me, how does the tree branch press the trigger when at the same time it is lifting the gun from the holster?


    Obviously you haven't spent much time hiking in the rugged Rocky Mountains. Half the time I'm crawling through brush so thick you can's see 5' in front of you...the other half the time, I'm falling down, etc. etc.


    only 32yrs (grew up in Utah hunting the Unitas and live in Colorado in which I have no doubt is every bit as rugged as Idaho)

    long enough to know that what you say could happen is statistically nearly almost as impossible as it is physically impossible

    try it with an unloaded gun,, no wait better yet us a plastic one I'd hate to hear you shot yourself with an completely unloaded firearm







    It's easily possible...and likely to happen. I wouldn't trust this holster in the conditions I bow hunt in.

    ...neither would the customer I initially ordered it for.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcs shooters
    Look at the Don Hume H-717. They are open bottom and cover the trigger.



    I don't see the 329NG listed, but I will call them to see if they have one available for that gun. It would be nice to have better barrel coverage, but that holster does ride lower and would be better with a pack.
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    Have one made to your specs. They usually aren't as high as you might think.
  • scrumpyjackscrumpyjack Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.


    So tell me, how does the tree branch press the trigger when at the same time it is lifting the gun from the holster?


    Obviously you haven't spent much time hiking in the rugged Rocky Mountains. Half the time I'm crawling through brush so thick you can's see 5' in front of you...the other half the time, I'm falling down, etc. etc.


    only 32yrs (grew up in Utah hunting the Unitas and live in Colorado in which I have no doubt is every bit as rugged as Idaho)

    long enough to know that what you say could happen is statistically nearly almost as impossible as it is physically impossible

    try it with an unloaded gun,, no wait better yet us a plastic one I'd hate to hear you shot yourself with an completely unloaded firearm







    It's easily possible...and likely to happen. I wouldn't trust this holster in the conditions I bow hunt in.

    ...neither would the customer I initially ordered it for.



    Get with the program...here, I'll type slowly so you can follow...

    What Odawgp is saying is that If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, it will require more force to pull the trigger in double action than it will to pull the gun from the holster. Therefore, the gun will be yanked from the holster long before the trigger makes the gun go bang. Very heavy trigger pull on the 329 night guard.
  • quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 15,576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So people have to buy another holster.[:D]

    swhat they make pockets fir E.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by scrumpyjack
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.


    So tell me, how does the tree branch press the trigger when at the same time it is lifting the gun from the holster?


    Obviously you haven't spent much time hiking in the rugged Rocky Mountains. Half the time I'm crawling through brush so thick you can's see 5' in front of you...the other half the time, I'm falling down, etc. etc.


    only 32yrs (grew up in Utah hunting the Unitas and live in Colorado in which I have no doubt is every bit as rugged as Idaho)

    long enough to know that what you say could happen is statistically nearly almost as impossible as it is physically impossible

    try it with an unloaded gun,, no wait better yet us a plastic one I'd hate to hear you shot yourself with an completely unloaded firearm







    It's easily possible...and likely to happen. I wouldn't trust this holster in the conditions I bow hunt in.

    ...neither would the customer I initially ordered it for.



    Get with the program...here, I'll type slowly so you can follow...

    What Odawgp is saying is that If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, it will require more force to pull the trigger in double action than it will to pull the gun from the holster. Therefore, the gun will be yanked from the holster long before the trigger makes the gun go bang. Very heavy trigger pull on the 329 night guard.



    That's potentially possible and I understood what he meant...but it's not a guarantee. Guns don't always come out of their holsters easily. It doesn't take much of a bind to keep a gun in a holster...
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    One like this one

    http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Joined-club-finally-t71267.html



    That would be nice...unfortunately, Galco does not offer the DAO for the 329 NG.
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    Get the type of shoulder rig that allows the gun to be not under your armpit, but laying across the left side of your chest.

    You won't catch me hiking the woods in any other type of setup.

    "Don't leave home without it"

    Joe
  • hk-91hk-91 Member Posts: 10,050
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by dano
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If the thumb snap happens to come open and the a tree branch snags the trigger, you are looking at a disaster.


    So tell me, how does the tree branch press the trigger when at the same time it is lifting the gun from the holster?

    When it comes to EEC, anything is possible.

    Oh I have no doubt, he can probably even get a primer to go bang while crushing it in a bench top vice [B)]


    while also being under water.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Why not get the right holster for the gun?
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BlackRoses
    Why not get the right holster for the gun?




    uh...I think that's the point of this entire thread...
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    And you just missed my point entirely..DUH
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    One like this one

    http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Joined-club-finally-t71267.html



    That would be nice...unfortunately, Galco does not offer the DAO for the 329 NG.


    Did you read the peice or just look at the Pretty Picture. He also uses it for his 329ng. That would mean the pistol he now uses it for must be listed so you just get it for that and it fits yours.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    One like this one

    http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Joined-club-finally-t71267.html



    That would be nice...unfortunately, Galco does not offer the DAO for the 329 NG.


    Did you read the peice or just look at the Pretty Picture. He also uses it for his 329ng. That would mean the pistol he now uses it for must be listed so you just get it for that and it fits yours.



    Galco makes that Holster (the DAO) for the 4" 329 PD, the 629, and other N Frames...but you've got an extra couple inches of holster. It's an option, but my objective with the 329NG was to get as light and compact as possible for packing around these mountains.

    Thanks for the feedback/idea though![:)]
  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC

    Obviously you haven't spent much time hiking in the rugged Rocky Mountains. Half the time I'm crawling through brush so thick you can's see 5' in front of you...the other half the time, I'm falling down, etc. etc.


    I've been that drunk a time or two.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
    quote:Originally posted by ECC

    Obviously you haven't spent much time hiking in the rugged Rocky Mountains. Half the time I'm crawling through brush so thick you can's see 5' in front of you...the other half the time, I'm falling down, etc. etc.


    I've been that drunk a time or two.



    Do you road hunt the rest of the time?
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    Looks like Police model to me.
    If U no like,U no buyeeee.
  • tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It has to be leather, then?
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
    It has to be leather, then?



    That's what I prefer...
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    Looks like Police model to me.
    If U no like,U no buyeeee.



    Actually, I ordered this one in for a customer and he didn't want it after seeing the exposed trigger. I have yet to find the "ideal" replacement.

    A custom holster is an option...and the Don Hume tip may pay off. I have to call them tomorrow...the Simply Rugged is a possibility as well.

    That's one of the reasons I like GB...we have a diverse group of people with a wide base of knowledge about various things. One can get quite a bit of feedback about almost anything. We've got quite a few jerks too...some of which posted in this thread, but the good folks still outnumber the jerks...
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    Looks like Police model to me.
    If U no like,U no buyeeee.



    Actually, I ordered this one in for a customer and he didn't want it after seeing the exposed trigger. I have yet to find the "ideal" replacement.

    A custom holster is an option...and the Don Hume tip may pay off. I have to call them tomorrow...the Simply Rugged is a possibility as well.

    That's one of the reasons I like GB...we have a diverse group of people with a wide base of knowledge about various things. One can get quite a bit of feedback about almost anything. We've got quite a few jerks too...some of which posted in this thread, but the good folks still outnumber the jerks...
    Eric,

    I have a Simply Rugged Sourdough holster on the way for my 329NG. I also have one coming from Lobo Gun Leather. They make a number of styles for the 329NG. I've got a 1-SL-X on order for the 329NG.

    Nice stuff.
  • tneff1969tneff1969 Member Posts: 6,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Carry a hand grenade, snagging the trigger will no longer be an issue. Wear it around your neck, and the back pack will no longer be an issue. If a tree branch snags the pin, you will no longer an issue. [:D][:D]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lt496
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    Looks like Police model to me.
    If U no like,U no buyeeee.



    Actually, I ordered this one in for a customer and he didn't want it after seeing the exposed trigger. I have yet to find the "ideal" replacement.

    A custom holster is an option...and the Don Hume tip may pay off. I have to call them tomorrow...the Simply Rugged is a possibility as well.

    That's one of the reasons I like GB...we have a diverse group of people with a wide base of knowledge about various things. One can get quite a bit of feedback about almost anything. We've got quite a few jerks too...some of which posted in this thread, but the good folks still outnumber the jerks...
    Eric,

    I have a Simply Rugged Sourdough holster on the way for my 329NG. I also have one coming from Lobo Gun Leather. They make a number of styles for the 329NG. I've got a 1-SL-X on order for the 329NG.

    Nice stuff.





    Thanks for the feedback.[8D]
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was looking at this thread and I felt like puking............ If you want a good 'Leather" holster that will hold the Gun look no farther that the the Simply Rugged...........It works and i think its the best holster out there for the sportsman.
    RLTW

  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
    quote:Originally posted by ECC

    Obviously you haven't spent much time hiking in the rugged Rocky Mountains. Half the time I'm crawling through brush so thick you can's see 5' in front of you...the other half the time, I'm falling down, etc. etc.


    I've been that drunk a time or two.



    Do you road hunt the rest of the time?
    That's funnier than you could ever know. When I have time, I'll email you the details of my one and only elk hunt. It was a whole lot like that[:D]
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Contact ElPaso Saddlery. They will make a custom holster to your specs and they are not overly pricey. I like a shoulder holster as stated above.
  • susiesusie Member Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No one here ever answered the original question:

    "Why do they make holsters like this one???"

    In my honest opinion it would seem that they make holsters like this one to, um, holster your firearm, maybe, possibly just might be the reason they make 'em...., just saying you know that might be the reasoning behind its manufacture and if you really want to think hard about it you might come to the same conclusion....[:D]

    As far as trigger exposure, which was your second question posited to the forum, even I, a simple female can see that the hammer appears to be locked by the design of the holster, thus preventing a mistaken trigger pull? You really worry me sometimes. [;)]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by susie
    No one here ever answered the original question:

    "Why do they make holsters like this one???"

    In my honest opinion it would seem that they make holsters like this one to, um, holster your firearm, maybe, possibly just might be the reason they make 'em...., just saying you know that might be the reasoning behind its manufacture and if you really want to think hard about it you might come to the same conclusion....[:D]

    As far as trigger exposure, which was your second question posited to the forum, even I, a simple female can see that the hammer appears to be locked by the design of the holster, thus preventing a mistaken trigger pull? You really worry me sometimes. [;)]



    Is being female the reason you are having issues with reading comprehension[:X][:D]. I'd suggest re-reading the OP.
  • OdawgpOdawgp Member Posts: 5,380 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    all the fun'in aside

    I have one of these type holster for a J frame and a kydex one that covers the trigger guard completely.

    truth be told I rather wear and carry the one that doesn't cover the trigger guard

    makes drawing of a revolver much faster, I don't have to reposition my hand a second time to get a good grip on the gun like I do if I draw from the kydex holster

    As far as bow hunting and bust'n brush so thick one can't see five feet I will just call "horse apples"

    The bow hunters I know and are sneaky and tend to make it a habit to go around areas such as you describe. but most have the common sense god gave a rock
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    all the fun'in aside

    I have one of these type holster for a J frame and a kydex one that covers the trigger guard completely.

    truth be told I rather wear and carry the one that doesn't cover the trigger guard

    makes drawing of a revolver much faster, I don't have to reposition my hand a second time to get a good grip on the gun like I do if I draw from the kydex holster

    As far as bow hunting and bust'n brush so thick one can't see five feet I will just call "horse apples"

    The bow hunters I know and are sneaky and tend to make it a habit to go around areas such as you describe. but most have the common sense god gave a rock










    Not around here...I can guarantee you. I do appreciate your feedback on the holster though.
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