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Does this seem right?

EhlerDaveEhlerDave Member Posts: 5,158 ✭✭
edited November 2016 in General Discussion
Browsing through pistols and found this in the sellers description.

Add 3% for credit cards, This is a credit card only auction -Visa, MC or Discover only. No checks, money orders, or certified checks. Don't even ask.

Why even do that? The lady I was hunting the auction down for was not happy and just passed, had the 3% just been added into the cost it would still have been about $145 cheaper than what she had seen already.

Her money, her decision to look around more.
Just smile and say nothing, let them guess how much you know.

Comments

  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've passed on those auctions myself. Unless it is a one of a kind item I really want, or the price is that much lower than other auctions I tend to skip auctions with a credit card up charge. Same thing with low price auctions that disguise their profit in ridiculous shipping charges.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,974 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm all about the Postal Money Order. So what happened too many fake PMO out there now?
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,162 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    I pass on the CC upcharge
    I pass on the postal money order only.
    I pass on the outrageous shipping

    If I want the item enough, sometimes I'll bite on "money order" if it's the kind I can get at 7-11.

    I prefer to pay by personal check, and if the seller wants to hold shipment for 2-3 weeks, I'm good with that.

    Cheaper or not, sometimes a person just needs to stand on principal. Ignore asinine action/behavior, and pretty soon everybody's doing it.
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    If the conditions of the sale are known prior to bidding it is hard to complain. Personally I avoid credit card payments whenever I can.
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
    I pass on the CC upcharge
    I pass on the postal money order only.
    I pass on the outrageous shipping

    If I want the item enough, sometimes I'll bite on "money order" if it's the kind I can get at 7-11.

    I prefer to pay by personal check, and if the seller wants to hold shipment for 2-3 weeks, I'm good with that.

    Cheaper or not, sometimes a person just needs to stand on principal. Ignore asinine action/behavior, and pretty soon everybody's doing it.


    Cheaper can cost more in the end.
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    As long as the fees are stated ahead of time, then I can just add them into my calculations before I bid. The only auctions I avoid are reserve auctions. Total waste of my time.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,681 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I look for CC auctions.

    If it is under $ 1,000.00 to $ 1,500.00, the 3% is worth it because I can do everything from my desk, and don't have to go to the bank, the post office, etc.

    If it is a high dollar item, I may adjust my bid to reflect the upcharge, but frankly the convenience is worth quite a bit.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I look for CC auctions.

    If it is under $ 1,000.00 to $ 1,500.00, the 3% is worth it because I can do everything from my desk, and don't have to go to the bank, the post office, etc.

    If it is a high dollar item, I may adjust my bid to reflect the upcharge, but frankly the convenience is worth quite a bit.


    My thought pattern as well.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I look for CC auctions.

    If it is under $ 1,000.00 to $ 1,500.00, the 3% is worth it because I can do everything from my desk, and don't have to go to the bank, the post office, etc.

    If it is a high dollar item, I may adjust my bid to reflect the upcharge, but frankly the convenience is worth quite a bit.


    My thought pattern as well.


    My preferred method as well. Usually on the way, next day.
    I view it as paying a minor charge, in exchange for expedited shipping. Saves me a trip into town also.
    My last several auctions, had no up charge for CC.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look and see what works on eBay. FREE SHIPPING, no talk of "extra" anything. The price you see is the price you pay. Easy,, you need to make it easy for your customers and offer a superior product.

    I've sold hundreds of items on ebay since 1999, 100% feed back and people pay MORE for my "stuff".

    No one remembers the cost in the future if it's something they like.

    If it's not easy / clear or they pay more than they thought,, they'll remember the cost forever and/or the bad deal.
  • Brian98579Brian98579 Member Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought an M1A walnut, from a dealer in RI recently. Paid by Visa. $1369, BIN, no credit card fee, $30 shipping. I saw it, I wanted it, and I had it in 10 days. Best price I found. I checked his feedback (it was good), he may have checked mine (I have none). Credit cards are a fact of life; in fact my medical provider will not take cash.

    I would gladly do business with this dealer again, some of the others, not so much.
  • EhlerDaveEhlerDave Member Posts: 5,158 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I look for CC auctions.

    If it is under $ 1,000.00 to $ 1,500.00, the 3% is worth it because I can do everything from my desk, and don't have to go to the bank, the post office, etc.

    If it is a high dollar item, I may adjust my bid to reflect the upcharge, but frankly the convenience is worth quite a bit.




    That is the way most people do things. The Lady chose not to purchase due to the fact the up charge is on a auction that is required to be paid with a CC.

    Had the 3% just been added in and the seller just said payment by CC only she would have bought the gun, simple as that. It just pushed her button the wrong way. The idea of pointing out the 3% was not working well with her. [8D]
    Just smile and say nothing, let them guess how much you know.
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    Look and see what works on eBay. FREE SHIPPING, no talk of "extra" anything. The price you see is the price you pay. Easy,, you need to make it easy for your customers and offer a superior product.

    I've sold hundreds of items on ebay since 1999, 100% feed back and people pay MORE for my "stuff".

    No one remembers the cost in the future if it's something they like.

    If it's not easy / clear or they pay more than they thought,, they'll remember the cost forever and/or the bad deal.




    So have I but you can't buy guns on ebay and their fees are 3 times more then here on GB. Plus they even take a cut of the shipping fees.

    Something else bugs kinda bugs me. I can't think of any other commodity that one can buy where they add a 3% Credit Card fee. Why is this so prevalent in the gun world. And don't give me that BS that they work on low profit margins.
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,047 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    Look and see what works on eBay. FREE SHIPPING, no talk of "extra" anything. The price you see is the price you pay. Easy,, you need to make it easy for your customers and offer a superior product.

    I've sold hundreds of items on ebay since 1999, 100% feed back and people pay MORE for my "stuff".

    No one remembers the cost in the future if it's something they like.

    If it's not easy / clear or they pay more than they thought,, they'll remember the cost forever and/or the bad deal.




    So have I but you can't buy guns on ebay and their fees are 3 times more then here on GB. Plus they even take a cut of the shipping fees.

    Something else bugs kinda bugs me. I can't think of any other commodity that one can buy where they add a 3% Credit Card fee. Why is this so prevalent in the gun world. And don't give me that BS that they work on low profit margins.



    Even as far back as the 1980's every gun dealer I knew marked up the price to cover the cc charge. Its more of a "your choice shouldn't cost me" idea than anything. If a dealer spends 20 minutes going over a gun....another 10 minutes going back and forth over the price....and FINALLY the buyer says he wants it for the agreed price....the seller should get that price, not that price minus fees. I can especially see it being relevant to upcharge when it comes to things like my GB listings. I have two buyers who are bidding against each other and I can potentially get more out of the second highest bidder because the top guy is using a cc.

    I don't see how or WHY anyone would want to "only allow" cc payments.
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  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I look for CC auctions.

    If it is under $ 1,000.00 to $ 1,500.00, the 3% is worth it because I can do everything from my desk, and don't have to go to the bank, the post office, etc.

    If it is a high dollar item, I may adjust my bid to reflect the upcharge, but frankly the convenience is worth quite a bit.




    Yep, convenience has a price, to me it's usually worth it.
  • EhlerDaveEhlerDave Member Posts: 5,158 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    Look and see what works on eBay. FREE SHIPPING, no talk of "extra" anything. The price you see is the price you pay. Easy,, you need to make it easy for your customers and offer a superior product.

    I've sold hundreds of items on ebay since 1999, 100% feed back and people pay MORE for my "stuff".

    No one remembers the cost in the future if it's something they like.

    If it's not easy / clear or they pay more than they thought,, they'll remember the cost forever and/or the bad deal.




    So have I but you can't buy guns on ebay and their fees are 3 times more then here on GB. Plus they even take a cut of the shipping fees.

    Something else bugs kinda bugs me. I can't think of any other commodity that one can buy where they add a 3% Credit Card fee. Why is this so prevalent in the gun world. And don't give me that BS that they work on low profit margins.



    Even as far back as the 1980's every gun dealer I knew marked up the price to cover the cc charge. Its more of a "your choice shouldn't cost me" idea than anything. If a dealer spends 20 minutes going over a gun....another 10 minutes going back and forth over the price....and FINALLY the buyer says he wants it for the agreed price....the seller should get that price, not that price minus fees. I can especially see it being relevant to upcharge when it comes to things like my GB listings. I have two buyers who are bidding against each other and I can potentially get more out of the second highest bidder because the top guy is using a cc.

    I don't see how or WHY anyone would want to "only allow" cc payments.


    I hope you did not misunderstand the point of my posting. I fully expect the CC charge to be added to the cost of any item I buy with the card. But pointing it out just did not work this time, sadly we are talking about just a couple of dollars in the cost.

    I get my pecan pie for finding what the Lady wants, other than that I have no dog in the fight.

    Before I am asked, yes the pie is worth hours scouring the net for what the Lady wants. [8D]
    Just smile and say nothing, let them guess how much you know.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,681 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In an auction setting, I would think all understand the cash discount. On a fixed price item there may be some who would want to deal with the inconvenience of paying cash for a savings. If it's a fixed price cc only I would agree that the fee makes little sense.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,047 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
    quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    Look and see what works on eBay. FREE SHIPPING, no talk of "extra" anything. The price you see is the price you pay. Easy,, you need to make it easy for your customers and offer a superior product.

    I've sold hundreds of items on ebay since 1999, 100% feed back and people pay MORE for my "stuff".

    No one remembers the cost in the future if it's something they like.

    If it's not easy / clear or they pay more than they thought,, they'll remember the cost forever and/or the bad deal.




    So have I but you can't buy guns on ebay and their fees are 3 times more then here on GB. Plus they even take a cut of the shipping fees.

    Something else bugs kinda bugs me. I can't think of any other commodity that one can buy where they add a 3% Credit Card fee. Why is this so prevalent in the gun world. And don't give me that BS that they work on low profit margins.



    Even as far back as the 1980's every gun dealer I knew marked up the price to cover the cc charge. Its more of a "your choice shouldn't cost me" idea than anything. If a dealer spends 20 minutes going over a gun....another 10 minutes going back and forth over the price....and FINALLY the buyer says he wants it for the agreed price....the seller should get that price, not that price minus fees. I can especially see it being relevant to upcharge when it comes to things like my GB listings. I have two buyers who are bidding against each other and I can potentially get more out of the second highest bidder because the top guy is using a cc.

    I don't see how or WHY anyone would want to "only allow" cc payments.


    I hope you did not misunderstand the point of my posting. I fully expect the CC charge to be added to the cost of any item I buy with the card. But pointing it out just did not work this time, sadly we are talking about just a couple of dollars in the cost.

    I get my pecan pie for finding what the Lady wants, other than that I have no dog in the fight.

    Before I am asked, yes the pie is worth hours scouring the net for what the Lady wants. [8D]


    Oh no, I wasn't "fussing" at all about things. I agree that this particular seller seems a little more than odd and I'm sure they have ran off quite a few buyers doing things that way.

    I'm glad you got your pie!!! [:D]
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  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Brian98579
    I bought an M1A walnut, from a dealer in RI recently. Paid by Visa. $1369, BIN, no credit card fee, $30 shipping. I saw it, I wanted it, and I had it in 10 days. Best price I found. I checked his feedback (it was good), he may have checked mine (I have none). Credit cards are a fact of life; in fact my medical provider will not take cash.

    I would gladly do business with this dealer again, some of the others, not so much.


    I'm pretty sure it's illegal for them not to take cash isn't it? Says so on the note it's legal tender for all debts public and private"......
  • EhlerDaveEhlerDave Member Posts: 5,158 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    In an auction setting, I would think all understand the cash discount. On a fixed price item there may be some who would want to deal with the inconvenience of paying cash for a savings. If it's a fixed price cc only I would agree that the fee makes little sense.


    The item I was looking at was all of $199.00 BIN price, so the 3% is nothing, it was just the idea. The Lady can afford to buy what she wants but like I said this just pushed her button.

    Not long ago she had me searching for reloading supplies for a .380. Now my long term loading supplier told me he had nothing in stock, she went in and smiled at him and had enough supplies for 1,000 .380's and 500 9mm for my efforts.

    Young Lady just seems to get things my ugly mug cant, it may be she is cute and I am me. [:D]
    Just smile and say nothing, let them guess how much you know.
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