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would you want a church in your back yard?
scottm21166
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There is a mexican congregation who has held a regular church service at a building they rented, 2 years ago they bought the property (5 acres) behind mine, they wanted to buy mine too for use as a parsonage and parking but their offer was half what I can sell this place for. Needless to say, since then I have had a poor taste in my mouth becuase I never even listed my property for sale and I thought their offer was insulting. Especially since they tried to make it like it was something I had to do as a christian...pffft.
Anyway, they had to get a construction loan to proceed with building the church and then obtain permits yada yada I figured this down economy would keep the issue at bay for a long time.
They have a crew out here today that looks like they are going to take the grass (turf) so I am expecting they will begin construction.
I am going to call the county to be sure they have permits the minute I see a power pole go up, a foundation hole cut or a road being graded. I also am going to call INF when I see workers on the job. I have a hunch this will be a project completed with volunteer carpenters and that most will be illegal, willing to work for nothing.
Maybe I am wrong but I do not want a church as a neighbor. I shoot guns in my back yard and I am sure they will try to stop me, not to mention it would be just dumb to shoot in their direction or risk a ricochet.
What do you think? would you want a church for a neighbor? especially after the animosity between you and the pastor?
what would it do to my property value?
Anyway, they had to get a construction loan to proceed with building the church and then obtain permits yada yada I figured this down economy would keep the issue at bay for a long time.
They have a crew out here today that looks like they are going to take the grass (turf) so I am expecting they will begin construction.
I am going to call the county to be sure they have permits the minute I see a power pole go up, a foundation hole cut or a road being graded. I also am going to call INF when I see workers on the job. I have a hunch this will be a project completed with volunteer carpenters and that most will be illegal, willing to work for nothing.
Maybe I am wrong but I do not want a church as a neighbor. I shoot guns in my back yard and I am sure they will try to stop me, not to mention it would be just dumb to shoot in their direction or risk a ricochet.
What do you think? would you want a church for a neighbor? especially after the animosity between you and the pastor?
what would it do to my property value?
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never mind I see you live in Cuba.
Doesn't sound like much of an issue to me. Maybe they will ask you to come over for some taco's. Somebody sold them the property. Had to been one of your neighbors .
But they aren't exactly going to be "in YOUR yard" are they? They'll be on THEIR PROPERTY.
Living near a church? No problem here. As long as it's one of the "usual" types and not some whacko bunch. Sad life fact that get's us all sooner or later. You can't choose your neighbors.
The First Church of the Black Rifle. [:D][:D][:D][:D]
make sure they have all the permits, proper zoning and legal workers. Churches can use free labor like we do when we build homes for the poor, but you need a professional plumber, electrical and foreman that signs off on the construction to make sure it is safe.
Churches in most areas have to have handicapable access and certain provision for the publice. That could really slow them down.
If a church moved next to me and tried to change my lifestyle, I would most certainly make their life a living hell. Christian or not, they are not fascist dictators that can just come in and tell you not to shoot or what to do.
Good luck with that and really consider building a nice dirt backstop to not only stop the bullets but completely block them out of your view if possible.
I'm sure you will have problems with morons parking on your yard.
Universally trespassing is a three time thing. First a warning, second a warning of the third time and third time is full on carnage.
As for shooting, around here if you discharge a firearm within 500' of another building you can go to jail. Better look into the laws before you go off on a wild west shooting spree. They might just make your life a living hell. A smart man makes friends of his neighbors.
And another thing, around here there is this thing called harassment. You start harassing these people you could find yourself in handcuffs.
the shooting is a big deal but I shoot a different direction out toward the big acreage. If I am even a little bit cautious, my shots will never cross their property.
I am mostly worried about property values, and the good chance there will be illegal aliens taking sanctuary in that church. (this congregation has been publicly accused of hiding illegal immigrants already)
I imagine slipgate is being facetious with his prediction of 80% loss of value but it would eliminate 50% of people who would buy the place...
Honestly, if everything else was fine, would you buy a house next to a hispanic church? or any church....
At the risk of sounding negative, I'll suggest that if you like to shoot in your back yard you should have bought that 5 acres behing you. Any neighbor there, church or residence or whatever, would eventually make shooting impractical and unsafe. Whether they complained or not. I wish you luck with the neighbors, however. Be friendly.
Honestly, if everything else was fine, would you buy a house next to a hispanic church? or any church....
i dont like neighbors but yeah, i wouldn't mind being next to a church. around montana, you see nicer neighborhoods next to the churches because the congrgation looks out for the area and so on....
it would be kinda cool to listen to the music while sleeping in on a sunday...
as far as the mexicants, keep the ICE# on them. no tolerance for that poop myself. my wife is a slovakian. we did all the paperwork, she pays taxes up the wazoo and has memorized more history about America and its government than i could possibly ever remember. WHy should we have to jump thru the hoops as nordic people when the scum suckers can just hop the fence and live here. its bullsgtt and it needs to stop before it starts a race war.
keep shooting. build a good backstop to block out the church and prevent any accidents.
make sure they have all the permits, proper zoning and legal workers. Churches can use free labor like we do when we build homes for the poor, but you need a professional plumber, electrical and foreman that signs off on the construction to make sure it is safe.Churches in most areas have to have handicapable access and certain provision for the publice. That could really slow them down.
If a church moved next to me and tried to change my lifestyle, I would most certainly make their life a living hell. Christian or not, they are not fascist dictators that can just come in and tell you not to shoot or what to do.
Good luck with that and really consider building a nice dirt backstop to not only stop the bullets but completely block them out of your view if possible.
I'm sure you will have problems with morons parking on your yard.
Universally trespassing is a three time thing. First a warning, second a warning of the third time and third time is full on carnage.
Really? The local building inspector will make sure it is safe. No licensing required to do electrical,plumbing in our area. First time the Church finds out you are riding them about the building they will probably ask you not to return.
Worked next to a Church for a few years. One of the Worst times to be on the road is right after a Church Service. Their minds are not there. Cannot say how many times they almost wrecked me.
No would not.
Worked next to a Church for a few years. One of the Worst times to be on the road is right after a Church Service. Their minds are not there. Cannot say how many times they almost wrecked me.
Sounda like they were in a hurry to get to heaven.
quote:Originally posted by dnelson457
No would not.
Worked next to a Church for a few years. One of the Worst times to be on the road is right after a Church Service. Their minds are not there. Cannot say how many times they almost wrecked me.
Sounda like they were in a hurry to get to heaven.
Or double dipped the communion line!
Why? Can't they afford their own land?
quote:Originally posted by dnelson457
No would not.
Worked next to a Church for a few years. One of the Worst times to be on the road is right after a Church Service. Their minds are not there. Cannot say how many times they almost wrecked me.
Sounda like they were in a hurry to get to heaven.
My problem was most times I was driving a big Rig. It was a Marine Corps Reserve Center. Sunday Afternoon was when we brought our Equipment in from the field. Actually had to threaten to drive over them to get them to move. Was driving an old M123 with Lowbed. Had a D7g on the trailer. Went to make my turn to the back gate of the Reserve center. These idiots expected me to back up to let them out. This drive was there only for the Reserve Center.
I dropped in in the lowest gear I had and nailed the throttle. When the right front tire came off the ground they backed up quick.
GTR
Do you have a home owners association? Check the county for their permits, make sure they have enough parking for the size of the building and restrooms and all that. If you really don't want them there you may be able to present the fact that their building plans are insufficient or they don't have enough parking spaces. These little things could hold them up from building.
I do not understand why you would not want a church for a neighbor. Dad always said the best 3 neighbors a man could have are a graveyard, church or the Amish. Lived near 2 of the 3, but just could not bear living next to the constant CLOP, CLOP, CLOP of the Amish teenagers who would not put mufflers on their buggies.
I don't think 3.5 acres is enough to shoot on with others that close but then who am I
I live next to at least 200 farmed acres, just a huge field. it must be a mile and a half to the highway. I shoot targets from my deck so the trajectoy is downward, no stray bullet ever reaches 50 yards past the target I have set up at 300 yards.
Its just about property value, wasn't sure what a church neighbor would do to mine. Happy to see most here wouldn't mind. but still some say they wouldn't live here for that reason. Im sure others wouldn't buy here for other reasons too...
Your county commissioners will be responsible for Zoning and most would rather something other be there since churches don't pay taxes.
It is their land, they can do what they want with it as long as they go by the zoning, etc regs.
Maybe they will have real loud weddings, playing their "mexican" music for you. [:D]
You lost all credibility the second you said "mexican" congregation and your assuming that most of their carpenters will be illegal. Just shows your bigot coming out. So much for Christian values.
It is their land, they can do what they want with it as long as they go by the zoning, etc regs.
Maybe they will have real loud weddings, playing their "mexican" music for you. [:D]
Or cook some Menudo during Easter. Smells real bad, but tastes pretty good.
Check out fajita Friday! [:p]
Instead of having 1 neighbor looking at your backyard, you will now have 150 people plus their extended families snooping around your property.
I was looking at a house on line recently. On the ariel view of the house, it looked like there was a business or church next to it. The house may have been the parsonage. Took the street name and put it and the word churches into google. Turns out it was a Jehova Witness church!!!
No way would I want to live next to that. I want privacy. I do not want hundreds of people looking at my stuff, religious or not.
Frankly, I'm surprized by all these freedom loving people here who start sounding like the Demo's, "We believe in freedom and liberty, as long as you don't move in my neighborhood". Call the home owners association. They'll put a stop to things, including shooting on your own property.
I used to shoot on a local farm. People bought the adjacent land to the farm and built a couple houses. They objected to the shooting. In the interest of all, I stopped shooting there. You may have lost Sundays and Wednesdays, but you should still be able to shoot at other times of the week.
Good luck.
But if they keep over on their own property - no problem.