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The American Civil liberties Union

dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
Good or bad?
After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights,if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money?
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.

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  • Oklahoma223Oklahoma223 Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are you serious? No true red-blooded American who loves freedom could support the ACLU. They are about as far left as you can get. This type of nazi group is hellbent on taking away all our freedoms for their elitist nazi agenda.
  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Oklahoma223
    Are you serious? No true red-blooded American who loves freedom could support the ACLU. They are about as far left as you can get. This type of nazi group is hellbent on taking away all our freedoms for their elitist nazi agenda.

    I wonder why they don't have to compromise like other orgs?
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
  • triple223taptriple223tap Member Posts: 385 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Oklahoma223
    Are you serious? No true red-blooded American who loves freedom could support the ACLU. They are about as far left as you can get. This type of nazi group is hellbent on taking away all our freedoms for their elitist nazi agenda.


    You've got it just backwards. The ACLU works to protect YOUR rights.

    Here's what the ACLU does -

    The American system of government is founded on two counterbalancing principles: that the majority of the people governs, through democratically elected representatives; and that the power even of a democratic majority must be limited, to ensure individual rights.

    Majority power is limited by the Constitution's Bill of Rights, which consists of the original ten amendments ratified in 1791, plus the three post-Civil War amendments (the 13th, 14th and 15th) and the 19th Amendment (women's suffrage), adopted in 1920.

    The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:

    Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.

    Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.

    Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.

    Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.

    And your problem with that IS???
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,244 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    The ACLU has abosultely NO use for amendment #2. No way will they EVER get one penny or even a good word from me.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    If the ACLU showed 1/100th the interest in the 2nd Amendment as they do in the 1st, I would support them, but they seem to pick and choose the rights they want to defend.
  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is nothing purely good or bad.

    IMO the ACLU has done some good in defending civil rights. But others see those rights they defended as not worthy of defense (like Nazis marching in Illinois). Also, IMO, they go way too far in trying to defend freedom of "exposure to things" like Christmas. If 3 people in town don't like the Christmas display, they can bugger off. What happened to majority rule?

    The ACLU detests the Second Amendment. Like most people and groups, it picks and chooses the rights it chooses to support and defend.

    All in all, again this my opinion, the ACLU does far more harm to America than it does good. As noted it is an extremely Liberal organization. Ruth Bader Ginsberg is a former high ranking member of the ACLU. Anymore need to be said?
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  • jeffb1911jeffb1911 Member Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My father used to say that the aclu was started by the comunists in the 30's to forment dissent in America. Wish he was still alive, i'd ask him where he got that bit of info from.

    With what the aclu does, it makes sense that they only want to stir up things here.

    Does anyone else think we need to re-light the fire under the GREAT AMERICAN MELTING POT?
  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022
    edited November -1
    ACLU has a profound liberal agenda. They fight for some individual rights, if it suits their agenda, and ignore those that don't. The ACLU was extablished by an avowed communist who sought to radically change the United States from a free-market, minimal government, capitalist, constitutional democratic republic to a socialist nanny state. The present ALCU membership and staff share those same goals. So far, they have halfway succeeded.

    Bottom line, I despise them.
  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022
    edited November -1
    Triple223tap -- son, I read your post. With all due respect, you need to go cold turkey on all Kool-aid products. You sound like you have had too much of the ACLU's. I disagree with your points. Tell me what these commies have done to support the Second Amendment.

    Answer: Nada. They want the American public disarmed. That is their marching orders from Karl Marx. A totalitarian government cannot exist where the public has the power.
  • steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The ACLU was protecting the "rights" of NAMBLA The North American Man Boy Love Association. With the help of the ACLU these freaks would like to legalize child molesting. No way Id support them.
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Good or bad?

    After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights, if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money? That's a non sequitur, right [?] [}:)]

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • Oklahoma223Oklahoma223 Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Triple223tap supports the ACLU. I rest my case.
  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Old-Colts
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Good or bad?

    After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights, if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money? That's a non sequitur, right [?] [}:)]
    [}:)][:D]
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hate Unions...

    other than the Union of The Holy Spirit, of course!
  • elkoholicelkoholic Member Posts: 5,130
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    If the ACLU showed 1/100th the interest in the 2nd Amendment as they do in the 1st, I would support them, but they seem to pick and choose the rights they want to defend.


    BINGO!
  • lindalecowboylindalecowboy Member Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Good or bad?
    After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights,if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money?




    Ok, let's see, if Adolf Hitler gave to the Red Cross, that means we can like and support him because he does SOME good........ are you nuts??? the ACLU is always on the wrong side of the truly red blooded American way of life. They hide behind their creed of protecting civil liberties but they do FAR MORE HARM than good. I cannot believe ANY gun owner would have ANYTHING nice to say about those creeps. I've seen you post some nutty stuff before but this one takes the cake.......[V][V][V]
  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lindalecowboy
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Good or bad?
    After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights,if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money?




    Ok, let's see, if Adolf Hitler gave to the Red Cross, that means we can like and support him because he does SOME good........ are you nuts??? the ACLU is always on the wrong side of the truly red blooded American way of life. They hide behind their creed of protecting civil liberties but they do FAR MORE HARM than good. I cannot believe ANY gun owner would have ANYTHING nice to say about those creeps. I've seen you post some nutty stuff before but this one takes the cake.......[V][V][V]

    I was so much hoping for your approval, I am very disappointed.
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
  • Allison9Allison9 Member Posts: 388 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steve45
    The ACLU was protecting the "rights" of NAMBLA The North American Man Boy Love Association. With the help of the ACLU these freaks would like to legalize child molesting. No way Id support them.


    I beleave they were trying to protect there right to speak and publish THEIR message, which I beleave they lost.They did so on the principle that if the government can shut them up, who's next.A pro-gun group in DC or Chicago?
  • MrOrangeMrOrange Member Posts: 3,012
    edited November -1
    The ACLU was founded by and for communists and anarchists out to destroy the U.S. way of life.

    That was then, this is now? Fair enough, judge them by their present-day actions. They are intent on subverting the U.S. The causes they champion all weaken this country. I'm with Michael Savage on this, they should be rounded up and prosecuted under RICO statutes before this country goes completely under.
  • JgreenJgreen Member Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I love it when people slam the ACLU becuase "They want to take away your rights", and then vote republican.

    Let me set you all straight.

    You may not like what the dudes that the ACLU defends have to say.

    But as soon as they don't have the right to say it, YOU'RE NEXT.

    There are two ways to protect yourself against government interference- the Courts and the Gun.

    The GOP is doing all it can to prevent you from access to the Courts or a legal remedy. And if you think it is doing anything to protect your 2A rights, think again.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by lindalecowboy
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Good or bad?
    After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights,if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money?




    Ok, let's see, if Adolf Hitler gave to the Red Cross, that means we can like and support him because he does SOME good........ are you nuts??? the ACLU is always on the wrong side of the truly red blooded American way of life. They hide behind their creed of protecting civil liberties but they do FAR MORE HARM than good. I cannot believe ANY gun owner would have ANYTHING nice to say about those creeps. I've seen you post some nutty stuff before but this one takes the cake.......[V][V][V]

    I was so much hoping for your approval, I am very disappointed.
    Don

    Don't be bummed Don! Go give Daisy another treat.[:D]

    BTW,......I would rather be "whale poop" than to contribute to the aforementioned.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by lindalecowboy
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Good or bad?
    After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights,if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money?




    Ok, let's see, if Adolf Hitler gave to the Red Cross, that means we can like and support him because he does SOME good........ are you nuts??? the ACLU is always on the wrong side of the truly red blooded American way of life. They hide behind their creed of protecting civil liberties but they do FAR MORE HARM than good. I cannot believe ANY gun owner would have ANYTHING nice to say about those creeps. I've seen you post some nutty stuff before but this one takes the cake.......[V][V][V]

    I was so much hoping for your approval, I am very disappointed.
    Don

    Don't be bummed Don! Go give Daisy another treat.[:D]

    BTW,......I would rather be "whale poop" than to contribute to the aforementioned.
    [:D][:D]
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by triple223tap
    quote:Originally posted by Oklahoma223
    Are you serious? No true red-blooded American who loves freedom could support the ACLU. They are about as far left as you can get. This type of nazi group is hellbent on taking away all our freedoms for their elitist nazi agenda.


    You've got it just backwards. The ACLU works to protect YOUR rights.

    Here's what the ACLU does -

    The American system of government is founded on two counterbalancing principles: that the majority of the people governs, through democratically elected representatives; and that the power even of a democratic majority must be limited, to ensure individual rights.

    Majority power is limited by the Constitution's Bill of Rights, which consists of the original ten amendments ratified in 1791, plus the three post-Civil War amendments (the 13th, 14th and 15th) and the 19th Amendment (women's suffrage), adopted in 1920.

    The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:

    Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.

    Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.

    Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.

    Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.

    And your problem with that IS???





    The ACLU is a commie organization and has been since it's inception. If you doubt that you are as blind as they come.
    Just look at the cases they choose to take on.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by triple223tap
    quote:Originally posted by Oklahoma223
    Are you serious? No true red-blooded American who loves freedom could support the ACLU. They are about as far left as you can get. This type of nazi group is hellbent on taking away all our freedoms for their elitist nazi agenda.


    You've got it just backwards. The ACLU works to protect YOUR rights.

    Here's what the ACLU does -

    The American system of government is founded on two counterbalancing principles: that the majority of the people governs, through democratically elected representatives; and that the power even of a democratic majority must be limited, to ensure individual rights.

    Majority power is limited by the Constitution's Bill of Rights, which consists of the original ten amendments ratified in 1791, plus the three post-Civil War amendments (the 13th, 14th and 15th) and the 19th Amendment (women's suffrage), adopted in 1920.

    The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:

    Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.

    Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.

    Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.

    Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.

    And your problem with that IS???





    You are right Oklahoma, in that this organization founded by a communist is so far left they rival Hitler's propagandist machine.
    What's next?
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ignorance abounds but here's some relief for the boys in Texas. The ACLU is helping Texan travellers:

    http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/07/aclu-in-texas-helps-protect-traveling-gun-owners/

    All you other ignorant folks just google "ACLU gun rights"
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OMG the world must be coming to an end it the ACLU is finally coming to the aid of gun owners.

    But I'm still betting they have an ulterior motive. They just don't do this type of thing.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Association of Commies Living in the US
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
    Association of Commies Living in the US


    ...and sucking the naive right up!
    What's next?
  • lindalecowboylindalecowboy Member Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by lindalecowboy
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Good or bad?
    After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights,if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money?




    Ok, let's see, if Adolf Hitler gave to the Red Cross, that means we can like and support him because he does SOME good........ are you nuts??? the ACLU is always on the wrong side of the truly red blooded American way of life. They hide behind their creed of protecting civil liberties but they do FAR MORE HARM than good. I cannot believe ANY gun owner would have ANYTHING nice to say about those creeps. I've seen you post some nutty stuff before but this one takes the cake.......[V][V][V]

    I was so much hoping for your approval, I am very disappointed.
    Don


    Wasn't concerned with whether you were "hoping" for my approval, you started this insanity by making such crazy comments about the ACLU being something that resembles GOOD...... They are at the heart of everything evil in the country and opposed to everything good. If you believe otherwise, you are deeply deceived or naive'. It's amazing to me what people are willing to believe or accept as truth.
  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lindalecowboy
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by lindalecowboy
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    Good or bad?
    After all, they support (some)of the bill of rights,if you are not a member, are you are lower than whale poop? Can't we just overlook the issues we disagree with and send them money?




    Ok, let's see, if Adolf Hitler gave to the Red Cross, that means we can like and support him because he does SOME good........ are you nuts??? the ACLU is always on the wrong side of the truly red blooded American way of life. They hide behind their creed of protecting civil liberties but they do FAR MORE HARM than good. I cannot believe ANY gun owner would have ANYTHING nice to say about those creeps. I've seen you post some nutty stuff before but this one takes the cake.......[V][V][V]

    I was so much hoping for your approval, I am very disappointed.
    Don


    Wasn't concerned with whether you were "hoping" for my approval, you started this insanity by making such crazy comments about the ACLU being something that resembles GOOD...... They are at the heart of everything evil in the country and opposed to everything good. If you believe otherwise, you are deeply deceived or naive'. It's amazing to me what people are willing to believe or accept as truth.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=309876
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022
    edited November -1
    I don't want to hear about all the "good" the ACLU has done. Even a broken watch is right twice a day, and the ACLU is as useless as a broken watch.
  • The DutchmanThe Dutchman Member Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well said! Tha ACLU is the NKVD of our day.

    quote:Originally posted by Oklahoma223
    Are you serious? No true red-blooded American who loves freedom could support the ACLU. They are about as far left as you can get. This type of nazi group is hellbent on taking away all our freedoms for their elitist nazi agenda.
  • lindalecowboylindalecowboy Member Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by River Rat
    I don't want to hear about all the "good" the ACLU has done. Even a broken watch is right twice a day, and the ACLU is as useless as a broken watch.


    [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lindalecowboy
    quote:Originally posted by River Rat
    I don't want to hear about all the "good" the ACLU has done. Even a broken watch is right twice a day, and the ACLU is as useless as a broken watch.


    [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]


    Far worse than a broken watch in that broken watches have a great many elements of beauty whereas the ACLU is downright ugly.
    What's next?
  • moonshinemoonshine Member Posts: 8,471
    edited November -1
    quote:The American Civil liberties Union

    Sucks
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