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pad lock help

diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
I have a job box at work with a commercial master lock in it.

Some yahoo filled the key hole with super glue or something similar.

My crew's personal tools and some company tools are in it.

Lock is recessed back in a hole.

Any recommendations on how I can get this opened?

Comments

  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    Cut off blade in a grinder. or, if you want to take longer, a dremel and about 6 cut off wheels. If I am not understanding the situation, send a pic, if you can.

    if you cut the bottom off of the lock, and remove the cylinder, you can open it with a screwdriver.

    Dan
  • RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can you get a cutting torch in there?
  • KAMsalesKAMsales Member Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's a Knack job box. The lock, when locked, is recessed back in a hole about 2 inches, maybe.

    Would injecting fingernail polish remover work? That used to unstick my fingers as a kid.
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    Seriously, if you cant get to the hasp, grind the rivets off the bottom of the lock, pull the plate that covers the cylinder, pull the cylinder out, and open it with a screwdriver.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    if you're not going to properly apply a gun to the situation, use heat.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
    It's a Knack job box. The lock, when locked, is recessed back in a hole about 2 inches, maybe.

    Would injecting fingernail polish remover work? That used to unstick my fingers as a kid.


    ,,,,,,,,would take a long time to dilute the adhesive,,,,,,,,,,,and most fingernail polish today has little to none 'acetone',,,,,,,,,

    We have the same setup on our range box,,,,,,use the little propane torch, heat the key entrance, shove the key in and turn. If the lock cools and the key is stuck, heat the key,,,,[;)]


    That is the trick. I have three of these types of job boxes and had something similar happen to me. I heated it up and had the key ready to go. Shoved it in and opened the lock. Key stuck and I had to reheat it to get the key out. I replaced the lock when I was done. I was a non union contractor on a union job. Some need to get a life.[;)]
  • mr.tboltmr.tbolt Member Posts: 449
    edited November -1
    drill it out. plenty of vids on youtube.
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey


    Does it look similar to this,,,,,,?????


    image.jpg1_6.jpg


    If it does, grind the 8 rivet heads off. Pry the bottom plate off,remove the cylinder, and open it with a screwdriver. Use a dremel, or a drill with a grinder attachment.
  • ForkliftkingForkliftking Member Posts: 4,907 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As said above, grind the heads off the rivets with a die grinder or Dremel tool and take the lock apart. Should only take about a minute or two.
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    Have you considered grinding the rivets off the bottom, removing the cylinder and opening it with a screwdriver?

    I know a locksmith. That's what he recommends.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Another vote for heat it up. But only if there's nothing flammable in the box.

    Seen a lot of these boxes on job sites. Saw one where a heavy hasp was added over the pocket. A second padlock hanging on the hasp to keep it locked. The outside pad lock was considered sacrificial, for this very reason. Easy to work on if every superglued, but if cut off the better protected padlock was still there behind the hasp.
  • SawzSawz Member Posts: 6,049
    edited November -1
    I say grind the rivet heads off, heat it with a torch then drill it out
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    Well, I told you how to do it. I'm leaving this conversation, to take up another with a comely young lady, who is infinitely more interesting than you old farts are.

    Dan
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by searcher5
    Well, I told you how to do it. I'm leaving this conversation, to take up another with a comely young lady, who is infinitely more interesting than you old farts are.

    Dan


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  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,377 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well let us know how you got it open
    and there is always
    chuck-norris-facts-11.jpg
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ditch-Runner
    well let us know how you got it open
    and there is always
    chuck-norris-facts-11.jpg

    He's OBVIOUSLY no "gun man"...[V]
    Rackin the slide,with a finger on the trigger?? Cummon Chucky!!
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by Ditch-Runner
    well let us know how you got it open
    and there is always
    chuck-norris-facts-11.jpg

    He's OBVIOUSLY no "gun man"...[V]
    Rackin the slide,with a finger on the trigger?? Cummon Chucky!!


    First off, thats Chunk Norris==YOU tell him it's wrong!

    Second it looks like a 1911 type of gun, What do you think would happen even if the trigger is all the way back?[;)]
  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for all the replies. I'm home now. No access to a torch on the job site.

    I have one at home, will bring it in tomorrow and try it out.

    I'll let ya'll know how it turns out.

    Working 7-12 hr shifts, and don't need this headache. I'm a foreman on a project.
    I'm a union low voltage foreman, and one of my crew had words with an inside wireman.
    We're the red headed step children of the union. Most of us are very conservative, and the electricians hate us.


    They won't know when, but they will know why......... wait a minute, I doubt they'll figure it out.
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nitro for the * that did it...[:o)]
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by Ditch-Runner
    well let us know how you got it open
    and there is always
    chuck-norris-facts-11.jpg

    He's OBVIOUSLY no "gun man"...[V]
    Rackin the slide,with a finger on the trigger?? Cummon Chucky!!


    First off, thats Chunk Norris==YOU tell him it's wrong!

    Second it looks like a 1911 type of gun, What do you think would happen even if the trigger is all the way back?[;)]


    Chuck's planning a move there ... there's a bad * off to the side, out of frame. Another dead ahead, hiding behind a tree. A damsel in distress in the car trunk, longing to be rescued.

    Keep watching ... don't blink or you'll miss what happens next!
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,377 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    drop a few dozen marbles down the assorted runs of conduit . electrician's love that

    quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
    Thanks for all the replies. I'm home now. No access to a torch on the job site.

    I have one at home, will bring it in tomorrow and try it out.

    I'll let ya'll know how it turns out.

    Working 7-12 hr shifts, and don't need this headache. I'm a foreman on a project.
    I'm a union low voltage foreman, and one of my crew had words with an inside wireman.
    We're the red headed step children of the union. Most of us are very conservative, and the electricians hate us.


    They won't know when, but they will know why......... wait a minute, I doubt they'll figure it out.
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,253 ******
    edited November -1
    Drill it out,it will pop right open. (dohhh)

    I'd do what Dan said,,[;)][^][:)]
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    With respect to the others that have posted, if the glue has got into the pins and springs, drilling will do no good. heat, maybe, worth a shot.
    don't work, do what I said.

    Dan

    (back off to talk to someone more interesting than you all)
  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    tannerite[}:)]
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by Ditch-Runner
    well let us know how you got it open
    and there is always
    chuck-norris-facts-11.jpg

    He's OBVIOUSLY no "gun man"...[V]
    Rackin the slide,with a finger on the trigger?? Cummon Chucky!!


    First off, thats Chunk Norris==YOU tell him it's wrong!

    Second it looks like a 1911 type of gun, What do you think would happen even if the trigger is all the way back?[;)]


    Chuck's planning a move there ... there's a bad * off to the side, out of frame. Another dead ahead, hiding behind a tree. A damsel in distress in the car trunk, longing to be rescued.

    Keep watching ... don't blink or you'll miss what happens next!


    Chuck does't have time to wait for the recoil to drive the slide back so he does it manually.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • buddybbuddyb Member Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Spray carburetor cleaner.Put the nozzle in the key slot.Put a rag under the slot to keep the carb cleaner off the tool box.
  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got to work a few minutes early today, at 5:15am. I brought a little bottle of map gas and a torch head.

    Hit everything with water first, and put the flame to it, for about 10 seconds. Tried the key in pliers, nothing. After 3rd dose of flame, it opened right up.

    Swapped the lock out, and everything is great.

    You fellars are the best, thanks for the help.


    Now, the slow planning starts...........
  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    just don't sound right if nothin blows up or gets shot........
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by hillbille
    just don't sound right if nothin blows up or gets shot........


    Anticlimactic for sure
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
    Got to work a few minutes early today, at 5:15am. I brought a little bottle of map gas and a torch head.

    Hit everything with water first, and put the flame to it, for about 10 seconds. Tried the key in pliers, nothing. After 3rd dose of flame, it opened right up.

    Swapped the lock out, and everything is great.

    You fellars are the best, thanks for the help.


    Now, the slow planning starts...........


    ,,,,,,,,,,,love it when a plan comes together !!!!!![;)]


    Hannibal? [;)][:D]
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I liked the marbles, but I have learned that most of these Tit for tats get out of hand.

    quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
    Got to work a few minutes early today, at 5:15am. I brought a little bottle of map gas and a torch head.

    Hit everything with water first, and put the flame to it, for about 10 seconds. Tried the key in pliers, nothing. After 3rd dose of flame, it opened right up.

    Swapped the lock out, and everything is great.

    You fellars are the best, thanks for the help.


    Now, the slow planning starts...........
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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