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Seniors packing heat

beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
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  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I consider myself and Ozma... Pre-Seniors.
    Does that count in the summation? [?]
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  • moonshinemoonshine Member Posts: 8,471
    edited November -1
    I carry ALL the time and I was born in 1937.
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  • Irish 8802Irish 8802 Member Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by moonshine
    I carry ALL the time and I was born in 1937.
    Geeze! I thought I was one of the oldest here,, 02/1940.Good to see you are still at it. Me too.
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  • Bubba JoelBubba Joel Member Posts: 5,161
    edited November -1
    I was born in 1943 and I carry all the time.. Yep, even in church
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  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Like Bubba, I was born in '43, and the only time there is no pistol on me is in bed and in the shower [^]
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,516 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mom has a .38 Smith and she knows how to shoot and load it. She will be 88 and I have No doubt the intruder will get shot.
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  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was born in 1949 and I carry every where I go plus I'm never over arms reach away from a gun in our house.
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  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ....only a supposed friend will get the drop on me....[:o)]
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  • onepopperonepopper Member Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In town I carry a Bersa 380. In the woods and around the property I carry a 1911 A1 converted to 9mm x 23 Winchester, we've got bears. Born 1934, 81 years.
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  • capguncapgun Member Posts: 1,848 ✭
    edited November -1
    I recommend anyone who carries in public also carry a cell phone and pepper spray. If you have to shoot someone you do not want the 911 call the police are responding to to be from some bystander saying "a crazy old man just shot a guy, and he still is holding his gun". You want the police to respond to the 911 call from you, "a person just attacked me with deadly force, and I had to shoot him to stop his attack". It makes a big difference in how the police initially approach you (and of course put down or secure the firearm and keep your hands in view when the police arrive). Pepper spray is good to have. First, it may be sufficient to stop an attack, depending on the circumstances. When the dust settles, it sure beats having to shoot someone. Secondly, if you do have to shoot someone in self defense and it goes to criminal or civil trial, having pepper spray can help your defense. Having just a firearm can look to the uniformed juror like you walked around with shooting someone as your first response to a threat. Having pepper spray with you, you can show that your mind set was that you did not want to injure anyone, and had pepper spray handy to repel an attack if at all possible. Just that can effect the attitude of the police, DA, or jurors toward you. If someone is shooting at you it probably will not make much difference. But a homeless guy can beat you to death with a can of soup. But if he attacks you and you shoot him, he is still just a dead guy holding a can of soup, and you are going to need everything possible in your favor to show you are not a wanton killer. I also carry wadcutters in my 2" .38. First, because after much testing I have found them the most effective round out of a 2" .38. Secondly, again to show my benevolent mind set, I can say I was carrying low power target loads, as opposed to +P+ hollow points, which frighten little old ladies on the jury. Factors like these can have a major effect on whether you are charged, or if on trial, convicted.
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  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,152 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "If you have to shoot someone you do not want the 911 call the police are responding to to be from some bystander saying "a crazy old man just shot a guy, and he still is holding his gun". You want the police to respond to the 911 call from you, "a person just attacked me with deadly force, and I had to shoot him to stop his attack"."

    I hear this over and over BUT I'm not convinced that (A) I would be thinking about using my phone immediately post-shooting. (B) If there are others in the immediate area, my call would be received before someone else had already called. (C) Responding cops are going to treat you(the shooter) any differently regardless of whether you're the 1st or 10th caller. Most likely you're going to physically abused to the point of injury if you're an older person with stiff joints and impaired movement. They're going to point guns at you and threaten to kill you. If your hearing is as bad as mine, you won't understand the commands so the scared spitless cops will look at that as resistance and act accordingly-they've got to go home at the end of the shift, you know.
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  • capguncapgun Member Posts: 1,848 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mobuck
    "If you have to shoot someone you do not want the 911 call the police are responding to to be from some bystander saying "a crazy old man just shot a guy, and he still is holding his gun". You want the police to respond to the 911 call from you, "a person just attacked me with deadly force, and I had to shoot him to stop his attack"."

    I hear this over and over BUT I'm not convinced that (A) I would be thinking about using my phone immediately post-shooting. (B) If there are others in the immediate area, my call would be received before someone else had already called. (C) Responding cops are going to treat you(the shooter) any differently regardless of whether you're the 1st or 10th caller. Most likely you're going to physically abused to the point of injury if you're an older person with stiff joints and impaired movement. They're going to point guns at you and threaten to kill you. If your hearing is as bad as mine, you won't understand the commands so the scared spitless cops will look at that as resistance and act accordingly-they've got to go home at the end of the shift, you know.
    No procedure works perfectly every time. You just prepare and do the best you can. If you dial 911 after shooting someone and identify yourself as the shooter, dispatch will prioritize your call and broadcast your information to the responding officers. Dispatch will ask your physical and clothing description to identify you, and remind you to secure your weapon and keep your hands in view. They will tell you to raise your hands when the officers arrive for your safety and to further identify you as the person the officers want to contact. Officers respond to an incident with only the information they are given. That information does effect the officers response. If you carry a firearm in public, think of all the scenarios in which you may have to use that firearm. Prepare your response ahead of time in your mind so you are ready if you are ever in that position. Being armed in public can save your life, but it can also get you hurt or in trouble if you act improperly after a shooting.
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