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Will you drop obamacare?
RUGERGUNZ
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Just wondering if Trump successfully removes the individual mandate forcing you to buy or pay a fine. Will you immediately drop your coverage?
Personally. My coverage is so poor and my premiums so high it isn't worth it and i will gladly cancel my policy.
Personally. My coverage is so poor and my premiums so high it isn't worth it and i will gladly cancel my policy.
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I have no issue with someone wanting to change their sex, nutty people make the world go around too, but I sure as hell don't think "insurance" should pay for the procedures.
There are way to many bureaucratic mandates and costs involved in Government doing much of anything. They strive for the most suffering possible with the greatest cost imposed and dang if they ain't good at it.
I took a job as a school bus driver which offers insurance for $90/month.
If Obama Care is scrapped, and I can get a plan for under $300/month, I may quit my job.
Emphasis on "may".
You know something is seriously wrong when a doctor submits a bill for $127,000 and accepts $28,000 from the insurance company.
It is difficult to find any responsible self reliant person who earns a paycheck who hasn't been hurt financially by the DEMOCRATS plan.
When you peel back the onion. Obamacare is nothing more than wealth redistribution. In simple terms: Making people who work pay for the healthcare for people who don't work.
I'm just hoping they immediately and retroactively do away with the tax/fine for not having coverage. Crossing my fingers and not filing until April.
+1
Wife lost her job--so, no insurance. Opted to just pay the damn fine which is ridiculous. We're, also, hoping this will be the first portion that will be repealed.
I will keep the same coverage I have always have. Until we have a single payer system, our health care/health insurance system will remain badly broken.
You know something is seriously wrong when a doctor submits a bill for $127,000 and accepts $28,000 from the insurance company.
You Got that Right[B)]
People that have had to pay the fines should be reimbursed for this unconstitutional fleecing of the American citizen. Anyone that was a part of passing this criminal bill should be charged with treason.
We can all thank Chief Justice John Roberts (Republican) for that.
Capt. Jack Sparrow.
http://crfb.org/papers/cost-full-repeal-affordable-care-act
quote:
Repealing ACA would increase the number of uninsured people by 23 million
23 million that have an insurance card and high payment, but cannot ever utilize it due to the outrageously high deductible
only winners in obomocare are the insurance companies getting paid with taxpayers subsidies , and never have to pay a claim
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
With Obamacare or without Healthcare is a mess.
I am willing to pay the first ten K in any year of costs for me and the wife if I could pay a very reasonable rate for catastrophic care to protect assets from liens due to a major illness.
The insurance companies have brought a lot of this on themselves. I hope to see them take it in the shorts.
They jacked up the rates on everything, and this cry about losses is odd at best when all the major players revenues have soared and profits along with them during Obamacare.
Insurance companies have been racking in subsidy money (tax payer bailouts pre bailout need)
2 surgeries zero out of pocket, dr copay was 20 bucks, meds 5
i would need a second job to make up the difference obomocare provides
ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD SEE OTHERWISE
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
http://crfb.org/papers/cost-full-repeal-affordable-care-act
quote:
Repealing ACA would increase the number of uninsured people by 23 million
23 million that have an insurance card and high payment, but cannot ever utilize it due to the outrageously high deductible
only winners in obomocare are the insurance companies getting paid with taxpayers subsidies , and never have to pay a claim
Do you have any actual facts to support that all 23 million are as you claim ?
do you have facts to support otherwise ?
are you currently personally on obomocare ?
do you personally know anyone who has it, and actually used it, and is satisfied ?
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
http://crfb.org/papers/cost-full-repeal-affordable-care-act
quote:
Repealing ACA would increase the number of uninsured people by 23 million
23 million that have an insurance card and high payment, but cannot ever utilize it due to the outrageously high deductible
only winners in obomocare are the insurance companies getting paid with taxpayers subsidies , and never have to pay a claim
Do you have any actual facts to support that all 23 million are as you claim ?
do you have facts to support otherwise ?
are you currently personally on obomocare ?
do you personally know anyone who has it, and actually used it, and is satisfied ?
I can see that your answer is "No", then.
I can see that your answer is "No", as well ?
several posters here have made the same claim, i guess we are all liars
how about all those that lost full time jobs due to the 32 hour mandate put by obomocare, millions of low skilled jobs where cut back to part time thanks to obomocare
Sorry suckas...!!
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I see absolutely no need to replace the disaster. The only "need" comes from the void of having a "freebee" taken away.
Sorry suckas...!!
Yep, the quicker that SOB is GONE, the better. Both the act, and it's namesake....
quote:Barzillia Posted
Consider, for instance, the millions of under 26 adults who are taking the opportunity to stay on their parents' plan.
Consider they could get a full time job that has health insurance WHILE going to college, like my soon-to-be 21 yo daughter does.
I only wish I was rich enough to be of help to him.[V]
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
I see absolutely no need to replace the disaster. The only "need" comes from the void of having a "freebee" taken away.
Sorry suckas...!!
Yep, the quicker that SOB is GONE, the better. Both the act, and it's namesake....
quote:Barzillia Posted
Consider, for instance, the millions of under 26 adults who are taking the opportunity to stay on their parents' plan.
Consider they could get a full time job that has health insurance WHILE going to college, like my soon-to-be 21 yo daughter does.
What? We can't expect the snowflakes to work, can we??
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
I see absolutely no need to replace the disaster. The only "need" comes from the void of having a "freebee" taken away.
Sorry suckas...!!
Yep, the quicker that SOB is GONE, the better. Both the act, and it's namesake....
quote:Barzillia Posted
Consider, for instance, the millions of under 26 adults who are taking the opportunity to stay on their parents' plan.
Consider they could get a full time job that has health insurance WHILE going to college, like my soon-to-be 21 yo daughter does.
exactly, and screw the others when they turn 27, along with the other millions who are currently being screwed out of money and health care
how about those under 27 that have no insurance because their parents cannot afford the premiums of obomocare
another consideration, FACT if i added my 23 year old to my obomocare i also have to add his income and almost double my current premium
how about those that no longer work full time because of obomocare, but in addition to less income get fined for not having it at tax time
as far as providing "facts" i am living this factual nightmare as well as others who have posted in this thread
sure i could google all day long, but most that shows up is liberal media and politicians who adore obobmocare but yet do not partake themselves, and have zero experience
I have AWESOME coverage at work. For the 25 bucks a week I pay I want to keep it just like it is. I just hope and pray the changes to Obamacare help reduce the cost for my company.
Me too, it is important calculation in where I work.
quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
I see absolutely no need to replace the disaster. The only "need" comes from the void of having a "freebee" taken away.
Sorry suckas...!!
Yep, the quicker that SOB is GONE, the better. Both the act, and it's namesake....
quote:Barzillia Posted
Consider, for instance, the millions of under 26 adults who are taking the opportunity to stay on their parents' plan.
Consider they could get a full time job that has health insurance WHILE going to college, like my soon-to-be 21 yo daughter does.
exactly, and screw the others when they turn 27, along with the other millions who are currently being screwed out of money and health care
how about those under 27 that have no insurance because their parents cannot afford the premiums of obomocare
another consideration, FACT if i added my 23 year old to my obomocare i also have to add his income and almost double my current premium
how about those that no longer work full time because of obomocare, but in addition to less income get fined for not having it at tax time
as far as providing "facts" i am living this factual nightmare as well as others who have posted in this thread
sure i could google all day long, but most that shows up is liberal media and politicians who adore obobmocare but yet do not partake themselves, and have zero experience
how dare you speak from experience?!!![:D][:D]
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
4 years ago, no one knew how ACA would affect them, least of all, the insurance companies. But, thanks to huge holdbacks by the Dems in Congress, the insurance companies were lured into participating on the promise that any losses would be covered by the government. For the last 3 years, the 5 big health insurance companies had record profits, to their surprise. But, the subsidies are ending soon, so there's no reason for them to continue to participate.
Actually, there should be no need to "replace" ACA. If the penalties are cancelled, & if we are allowed to buy without regard to state boundaries, the free market will begin to work. The fear mongers tell us the sky is falling, but the market should quickly stabilize.
Neal
"There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, & statistics." -- unknown
My VA coverage meets the health insurance government mandate.
[;)]
I us VA and My work health care.
yup
and unemployment has been at an all time low, well at least since his extended benefits ran out
not to mention the tens of million that went on disability and welfare , taking them out of the system
millions of jobs have been created, well at least since obomocare caused millions to go from full time to part time, for every 2 previous full time workers created 3 part time workers
I will keep the same coverage I have always have. Until we have a single payer system, our health care/health insurance system will remain badly broken.
You know something is seriously wrong when a doctor submits a bill for $127,000 and accepts $28,000 from the insurance company.
Without a doubt one!!!!
I want health insurance but not with this screwed up system.
Edited to add that the insurance company i was with claimed they couldn't cancel and transferred me to the insurance marketplace in order to cancel.
94 million former employees got laid off & are no longer counted as unemployed.
8 gigantic healthcare conglomerates got 187 billion dollars in taxpayer"subsidies".
Only a politician or a moron would think things are looking up.