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Johnny Walker Green Label

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  • kristovkristov Member Posts: 6,633
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Actually I think I'm going to go for a full bottle of The Macallan, as I haven't yet read a single bad review...smaller bottles of other brands as I figure out what I like


    A fine choice and I think that you'll really be susprised at how much you enjoy it. When you decide to move up the line The Macallan 18 year, one of my favorite scotches, is a real experience. Knowing and understanding fine scotch can move you into many different social cirlces and can put you into contact with folks who might just do your career some good [;)].
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    Why would you put any ice or water in your scotch?


    because thats how some people enjoy it. unless its your booze, i dont see how its any of your business. even if it is your whisky, once you offer it me and i accept, its now my whisky and i'll take it anyway i please.

    N.B. you and any derivitive thereof in the above isnt meant to specifically target you, just your viewpoint.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now I just need a bar to keep my newfound booze....

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  • kristovkristov Member Posts: 6,633
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    Old grandad bottled in bond rocks,if you can find it.


    That is a bourbon and not a scotch.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    Why would you put any ice or water in your scotch?


    because thats how some people enjoy it. unless its your booze, i dont see how its any of your business. even if it is your whisky, once you offer it me and i accept, its now my whisky and i'll take it anyway i please.

    N.B. you and any derivitive thereof in the above isnt meant to specifically target you, just your viewpoint.


    It's because of people like that that I fill an empty black label bottle with red label (& I hide the bottle of gold label.)
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    quote:Originally posted by Sperry
    quote:At home, I freeze up perfect distilled cubes, of about 1/2 oz.

    Very important. Bad ice or water can destroy great scotch.

    I paid $24 for two 8 oz. fillets yesterday.
    The minute that steak hits the pan until, and even after it is in your stomach,
    you have no regrets spending the extra money.

    Although sometimes an $8/lb steak can be as good. Just not usually, or lately.


    Why would you put any ice or water in your scotch?
    Exactly. Neat is the only way to drink scotch.

    If your scotch sucks neat, then, simply put, your scotch sucks.
  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells

    Neat is the only way to drink scotch.

    If your scotch sucks neat, then, simply put, your scotch sucks.


    There is more then one way to skin a cat. Isn't drinking Scotch about experiencing the flavor?

    quote:I have heard, and read, varying opinions about the proper amount of water to add (or not add) when enjoying a single malt. Some suggest drinking it neat, some with a splash of water, some with an equal amount of water and single malt, etc. There are even suggestions about using certain types of bottled water. Given that enjoying a single malt is a unique personal experience and there's probably no one correct answer, what is your preference and/or recommendation? -- Anne Elky

    The specific question from Anne was if water should be added to the Scotch single malt and, if so, how much water? There have been other similar questions to The Scotch Doc, so let me "lump" them all together and provide a rather detailed answer that should satisfy everyone - I hope. I will at least tell you all that I THINK I know about it and will include some opinions. I recommend the following:

    Place about two ounces of single malt in a 12 oz. brandy snifter.

    Swirl the contents three or four times.

    Place the nose about twelve inches above the rim of the glass and sniff lightly as you slowly move your nose closer or farther from the rim of the glass.

    Swirl the whisky again and smell again.

    Now that you have found the "correct" distance for YOUR nose and THIS particular single malt, place about a half-teaspoon of good quality, room temperature water in the single malt. I keep a bottle of such in my single malt cabinet. Now quickly swirl the contents a couple of times and nose again. If the whisky has much character, you will now most likely have to move your glass farther from your nose. There may be an intense release of aromas from the malt- or maybe not so intense. This robust release of aromas is due to the old Chemistry 104 term called "heat of solution." In effect, this rule states that when two chemicals are mixed, they may "take on" or "release" energy, thus becoming cooler or warmer. In the case of a whisky and water mix, the solution becomes slightly warmer, thus releasing the ethyl alcohols which contain much of the aroma of the single malt. The "nosing" step of appreciating the single malt is very important. There are 32 primary aromas, but only four primary tastes (via the tongue). Taste is influenced by the sense of smell for more than most people are aware.

    At this point, take a small sip (3/4 to 1 teaspoonful) of the single malt into your mouth and allow it to coat the tongue and mouth well (no mouthwash swishing, now). Swallow slowly and envision the "Bell Curve" (you would expect a "Bell Curve" comparison from a professor, huh?) as the intensity of the flavor builds to a pinnacle and then declines. The more flavor and the longer it takes for the flavor to reach its flavor peak, the "taller" the "bell" will be.

    The length of time it takes the flavor to reach its peak, and the longer the flavor lasts after it attains the peak (referred to as the "finish" or "after-taste"), the broader the Bell will be. With careful attention and regular practice, a great deal of information concerning the idiosyncrasies of single malts can be learned. More importantly, however, is the tremendous level of appreciation for the single malt that will occur. The incomparable single malt was never meant to be "drank," like other liquids. It was meant to be savored and "experienced." In fact, if one takes the time to get educated concerning the taste, history and mystique of the Scotch single malt, they may come to actually revere it. To "chug" a Scotch single malt is sacrilege, and I distance myself from such an uncouth individual as quickly as possible before the historically, well-documented, McCoy Celtic ire is aroused.

    I strongly recommend that the Scotch single malt be "approached" in the same manner that one would a member of the opposite sex that may intrigue you. An open mind, patience, sincere attention to detail and an opportunity for it to reveal and exhibit its unique special qualities may disclose an "individual" whose company you can enjoy on many occasions. It could also be that you will meet that individual who you will want to spend a lifetime with. That's what The Scotch Doc thinks. What is your opinion?



    http://www.scotchdoc.com/tsd/ask/index.html
  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by iceracerx
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells

    Neat is the only way to drink scotch.

    If your scotch sucks neat, then, simply put, your scotch sucks.


    There is more then one way to skin a cat. Isn't drinking Scotch about experiencing the flavor?

    quote:I have heard, and read, varying opinions about the proper amount of water to add (or not add) when enjoying a single malt. Some suggest drinking it neat, some with a splash of water, some with an equal amount of water and single malt, etc. There are even suggestions about using certain types of bottled water. Given that enjoying a single malt is a unique personal experience and there's probably no one correct answer, what is your preference and/or recommendation? -- Anne Elky

    The specific question from Anne was if water should be added to the Scotch single malt and, if so, how much water? There have been other similar questions to The Scotch Doc, so let me "lump" them all together and provide a rather detailed answer that should satisfy everyone - I hope. I will at least tell you all that I THINK I know about it and will include some opinions. I recommend the following:

    Place about two ounces of single malt in a 12 oz. brandy snifter.

    Swirl the contents three or four times.

    Place the nose about twelve inches above the rim of the glass and sniff lightly as you slowly move your nose closer or farther from the rim of the glass.

    Swirl the whisky again and smell again.

    Now that you have found the "correct" distance for YOUR nose and THIS particular single malt, place about a half-teaspoon of good quality, room temperature water in the single malt. I keep a bottle of such in my single malt cabinet. Now quickly swirl the contents a couple of times and nose again. If the whisky has much character, you will now most likely have to move your glass farther from your nose. There may be an intense release of aromas from the malt- or maybe not so intense. This robust release of aromas is due to the old Chemistry 104 term called "heat of solution." In effect, this rule states that when two chemicals are mixed, they may "take on" or "release" energy, thus becoming cooler or warmer. In the case of a whisky and water mix, the solution becomes slightly warmer, thus releasing the ethyl alcohols which contain much of the aroma of the single malt. The "nosing" step of appreciating the single malt is very important. There are 32 primary aromas, but only four primary tastes (via the tongue). Taste is influenced by the sense of smell for more than most people are aware.

    At this point, take a small sip (3/4 to 1 teaspoonful) of the single malt into your mouth and allow it to coat the tongue and mouth well (no mouthwash swishing, now). Swallow slowly and envision the "Bell Curve" (you would expect a "Bell Curve" comparison from a professor, huh?) as the intensity of the flavor builds to a pinnacle and then declines. The more flavor and the longer it takes for the flavor to reach its flavor peak, the "taller" the "bell" will be.

    The length of time it takes the flavor to reach its peak, and the longer the flavor lasts after it attains the peak (referred to as the "finish" or "after-taste"), the broader the Bell will be. With careful attention and regular practice, a great deal of information concerning the idiosyncrasies of single malts can be learned. More importantly, however, is the tremendous level of appreciation for the single malt that will occur. The incomparable single malt was never meant to be "drank," like other liquids. It was meant to be savored and "experienced." In fact, if one takes the time to get educated concerning the taste, history and mystique of the Scotch single malt, they may come to actually revere it. To "chug" a Scotch single malt is sacrilege, and I distance myself from such an uncouth individual as quickly as possible before the historically, well-documented, McCoy Celtic ire is aroused.

    I strongly recommend that the Scotch single malt be "approached" in the same manner that one would a member of the opposite sex that may intrigue you. An open mind, patience, sincere attention to detail and an opportunity for it to reveal and exhibit its unique special qualities may disclose an "individual" whose company you can enjoy on many occasions. It could also be that you will meet that individual who you will want to spend a lifetime with. That's what The Scotch Doc thinks. What is your opinion?



    http://www.scotchdoc.com/tsd/ask/index.html


    PS - when asked for Scotch and water by a guest, it is customary to give said guest a glass of Scotch AND a glass of water. Leave it to them to determine what a "splash" is.
  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gruntledWhy would you put any ice or water in your scotch?
    Complete agreement here. One would never add ice to scotch.
    The educated man knows the scotch is added to the ice.
    Scotch can be enjoyed chilled. However, do not stir the scotch.

    Pack a tumbler full of ice.
    Next, maybe two fingers of scotch is added.
    The glass is allowed to set, undisturbed.
    For eight or ten minutes.
    Then the drinking can begin.
    The water and scotch have, so far, remained apart.
    The unmixed scotch and cold water cross the tongue separately.

    When drinking single malt, however, the beverage is served neat.
    A measure is poured into a glass, and consumed in one motion.

    A friend has over a dozen brands of single-malt at any one time,
    and will give one the "tour", pointing out various
    water, soil, or rock differences that change the taste of the scotch.
    He went as far as to go to Scotland for a month to tour the distilleries.

    There are, I believe, about 90 distilleries creating a single-malt. Maybe 93 [says Steve O.]
  • helicopter_pilothelicopter_pilot Member Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by duckhunter
    Try the BLUE. Worth the price[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

    I have a bottle of Blue Label here. I got it for my mom and her husband as a Christmas present. (Actually it's the second bottle. The didn't want to drink the first because it was too good. So I bought them another one the following Christmas.) I got the unopend bottle back when they died.

    Since I seldom drink, I haven't gotten round to trying it yet. I thought I'd work up to it with some Red and Black, but Washington state taxes are exorbitant. (A $30 bottle of Laphroaig goes for about $60 here!) So I haven't bought the others. Maybe I'll have to take a trip to Canada and get some from the duty free shop on the way back.
  • dtknowlesdtknowles Member Posts: 810 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Complicated pleasures

    When you have tasted the forbidden fruit it is hard to go back.

    Do not teach your pallet to crave expensive pleasures

    Be happy if you can find joy in less expensive products

    $24 a pound beef, $100 a bottle liquor, $50 a bottle wine. If you enjoy these occasionally and find the measurably superior to less expensive products when you routinely consume the less expensive products you will start to consider them inferior and resent not being able to afford the more expensive product for day to day use.

    Find less expensive versions of products that you like and get used to their characteristics. They will become comfortable for you and keep you off the dreadmill of chaseing ever more expensive and exclusive products.

    I mean this for people who are interested in happyness that is not related to one up menship or I'm better than you or I'm so hot because I only eat, drink, drive the best.

    That is not to say that some inexpensive product are not crap. There is plenty of crap out there and not all of it is cheap.

    I have a problem, anymore I don't like cheap Port. It is my wife's fault, sometimes she buys me some better Port.

    Just a warning, once you move up it is hard to go back.
  • Spc FergusonSpc Ferguson Member Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    200$ good lord.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you think that's bad, try this one.

    Blue Label 200th Anniversary - 2005 saw Johnnie Walker's extremely limited bottling of its ultimate blend. A special release of cask strength Blue Label, in a special square Baccarat crystal decanter. It is the most expensive Johnnie Walker product, selling recently for over $3,599 a bottle.
  • Spc FergusonSpc Ferguson Member Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    thats insane no way id spend that much money, im scottish irish and german and aint no way in hell id spell almost 4000$ on a bottle of alcohol. Ive drank the green label and liked it, but someone else bought it for me as a deployment present. Ill prolly get a bottle of it when i get back to states among other things but not the blue label.
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    If you think that's bad, try this one.

    Blue Label 200th Anniversary - 2005 saw Johnnie Walker's extremely limited bottling of its ultimate blend. A special release of cask strength Blue Label, in a special square Baccarat crystal decanter. It is the most expensive Johnnie Walker product, selling recently for over $3,599 a bottle.

    My liquor store has that in stock... exactly ONE bottle of it.
  • Spc FergusonSpc Ferguson Member Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    If you think that's bad, try this one.

    Blue Label 200th Anniversary - 2005 saw Johnnie Walker's extremely limited bottling of its ultimate blend. A special release of cask strength Blue Label, in a special square Baccarat crystal decanter. It is the most expensive Johnnie Walker product, selling recently for over $3,599 a bottle.

    My liquor store has that in stock... exactly ONE bottle of it.

    id hate to spend that much money on a bottle just to collect it, but then again id had to think what a 4000$ hang over feels like :D
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spc Ferguson
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    If you think that's bad, try this one.

    Blue Label 200th Anniversary - 2005 saw Johnnie Walker's extremely limited bottling of its ultimate blend. A special release of cask strength Blue Label, in a special square Baccarat crystal decanter. It is the most expensive Johnnie Walker product, selling recently for over $3,599 a bottle.

    My liquor store has that in stock... exactly ONE bottle of it.

    id hate to spend that much money on a bottle just to collect it, but then again id had to think what a 4000$ hang over feels like :D
    They have a whole locked cabinet, on display, of "unique" liquor. I was very shocked to see some rather low-end stuff, like Dewars, in that cabinet fetching a very hefty price.

    One of the interesting ones is a group of shooters - all Johnny Walker, one of each of the choices including, yes, Blue. The Blue shooter runs $90. That's an expensive shot.
  • helicopter_pilothelicopter_pilot Member Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    One of the interesting ones is a group of shooters - all Johnny Walker, one of each of the choices including, yes, Blue. The Blue shooter runs $90. That's an expensive shot.

    Rip-off. My mom and her husband liked up-scale places. They paid $25 for a JW Blue. FWIW, a whole bottle costs about $160.
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    Heli Pilot: A Fellow Laphroaig Drinker!! Damn few of us! And you live up here in the Glorious NorthBest, don't ya? We'll have to meet sometime and share a Draghm, eh wot?

    I'm at TNW - Drop in anytime!
  • helicopter_pilothelicopter_pilot Member Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HandLoad
    Heli Pilot: A Fellow Laphroaig Drinker!! Damn few of us! And you live up here in the Glorious NorthBest, don't ya? We'll have to meet sometime and share a Draghm, eh wot?

    I'm at TNW - Drop in anytime!

    At my regular message board Laphroaig comes up whenever there's a whiskey thread. As I said I'm not much of a drinker. I wish I had some 15-year-old though. I like it more than the 10-year-old (which I do like).

    TNW. That's in Alaska, innit? I've always wanted to visit Alaska. Too bad I'm not current. (And too bad helicopters are so expensive.)
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    TNW is Tacoma Narrows Airport.

    I have the 18 YO cask strength, the 10 YO, and some 40 YO, if ya get here before it goes below 1/3 bottle (after that, ya gotta finish it, don't ya know)

    I'll be motorvatin up to Bellingham area in late July...gotta go by Kesselring's for a few thousand rounds (I pick up for my local Gun Club).
  • helicopter_pilothelicopter_pilot Member Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HandLoad
    TNW is Tacoma Narrows Airport.

    I thought TNW was Tin Creek

    Kesselring's. They're pretty much the only game in town since Yeager's lost its license. There's a pawn shop on the Guide that thinks its guns are made of gold, and a little gun shop down the street from Yeager's that has a tiny selection. Kesselring seems to bit a bit expensive, though I did get an original AR-180 there.
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    Well, I thought TNW was here - I'll have to look it up, I live right next to it! You can tell I've never planned a flight into it - I had to sell my 182 (In So Cal)to afford the prices of a house up here. Now, every time I say Airplane? to the wife, she just says: 'Been there, Done that".

    [EDIT] Tacoma International Airport is TIW, Sorry about that!
  • helicopter_pilothelicopter_pilot Member Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HandLoad
    I had to sell my 182 (In So Cal)to afford the prices of a house up here.
    My dad sold his planes a couple of years after I got my license. Last time I saw N84573 (Skyhawk) it was sitting derelict in Fullerton. Right main flat, no rubber at all on the left main, black gunk oozing out of the oleo strut, rusty chain around the prop. It had been repainted, but not an excellent job. (Interior was unchanged though.) IIRC it had about 5,000 or 6,000 on the Hobbs. I suspect the owner reached TBO and didn't want to pay to have it overhauled. I tried contacting him twice to see if he wanted to sell it, but he didn't reply. Got laid off a couple of years after that and bought a house in Birch Bay. Can't afford a 172 now.

    I looked up the Skylane and it was in Paso Robles.

    A 172 would be more practical, but what I really want is a Schweizer 300CB. (Or a T-34B. [:D] ) For now I'd just settle to get current!
  • agman1999agman1999 Member Posts: 981 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kristov
    Get that bottle of 12 year old The Macallan because I have met very few people who tried it and did not find it to be at the very least drinkable, but beware that you may want to drink nothing else.


    At least until you try the 18 and the 30!
  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,943 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I might suggest giving Jameson 18 a try, should be in about the same price range, but it is an Irish Whiskey.

    I have been drinking it regularly since I first ran across it. And there was plenty of it to go around on my wedding day. I think it is a great value for the money.

    Green label, is decent but for another $15-$20 you can drink gold-label, which is one I have a taste for as well.

    There are lots of single malts out there, that can be really great, the blended scotches are generally give less variation in flavor from Bottle to Bottle.

    I even think Crown Royal Special Reserve is pretty good for what you get, and a little more affordable than many others that don't match up, but that is of course, a Canadian Whiskey.
  • RidgeriderRidgerider Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its a blended Scotch. A real Scotch is a single malt naturally flavored not somebodies interpretation of how it should taste.
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