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Obama wants a 25 % federal sales tax

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    savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,476 ✭✭✭✭
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    For that Free health care when are people going to learn that nothing comes for free
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    trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by savage170
    For that Free health care when are people going to learn that nothing comes for free


    The ones that have always got it free will never see the cost .
    The ones that need a pet to feel sorry for and to be superior to do not care .
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    TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,560 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Change the liberals ate up and now time to pay up, tax tax and if it moves tax it.[xx(]
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    joker5656joker5656 Member Posts: 5,598 ✭✭✭
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    MMM, So there worried about unemployment?? This will create more unemployment. people won't buy stuff. which means less jobs.
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    trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by joker5656
    MMM, . people won't buy stuff. which means less jobs.

    Could be a good thing .
    If we spend our money in the right places and punish the others with a closed wallet, it might get some real hard heads to pay attention .
    We do have the power to teach .
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    FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    This from the man who promsed not raise taxes on the lower/middle class 1 penny. How many lies does make? I've lost count.
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    RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,637 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
    NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
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    lovethemcoltslovethemcolts Member Posts: 536 ✭✭✭
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    This from the man who promsed not raise taxes on the lower/middle class 1 penny. How many lies does make? I've lost count.

    lies we have already heard from President Obama.

    1) ".not because I believe in bigger government - I don't - not because I'm not mindful of the massive debt we've inherited - I am." Speech to Congress, February 24, 2009

    2) "And that is why I have ordered the closing of the detention center at Guantanamo Bay and will seek swift and certain justice for captured terrorists." Speech to Congress, February 24, 2009

    3) "My administration has also begun to go line by line through the federal budget in order to eliminate wasteful and ineffective programs." I wonder if the President knows he doesn't have a line item veto.

    4) "My immediate task is making sure that the second half of that money, $350 billion, is spent properly. That's my first job." Press conference February 9, 2009, talking about TARP money.

    5) "It also contains an unprecedented level of transparency and accountability, so that every American will be able to go online and see where and how we're spending every dime. What it does not contain, however, is a single pet project, not a single earmark, and it has been stripped of the projects members of both parties found most objectionable." Press conference February 9, 2009 talking about his own economic bill.

    6) "Second is recognition of the limits of the judicial role, an understanding that a judge's job is to interpret, not make law, to approach decisions without any particular ideology or agenda, but rather a commitment to impartial justice." I thought about putting this first because he was introducing Sotomayor who is on tape saying judges make policy, among other things.

    7) "It's not just enough to change the players. We've gotta change the game." He has appointed over 150 recycled Clintionistas

    8) "I opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. It should be repealed and I will vote for its repeal on the Senate floor. I will also oppose any proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban gays and lesbians from marrying." Either this is a lie or his later position where he opposes gay marriage, take your pick for number eight.

    9) "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community." In reference to Rev. Wright 42 days before he disowned him.

    10) "To those Americans whose support I have yet to earn: I may not have won your vote, but I hear your voices, I need your help, and I will be your President, too."
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    penetraitorpenetraitor Member Posts: 3,870
    edited November -1
    Not going to happen.
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    11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Say, just what DID start that thing called the Whiskey Rebellion anyway? [:p]
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    lindalecowboylindalecowboy Member Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Now come on guys, surely nobody here is bold enough to even try to ACT like you're surprised????

    Best thing to do to try to predict his next move, reach back in time and drop some acid and when it's at the maximum peak, start writing your notes on paper so when you wake up, you'll have some good ideas for our current administration to get past this mindless congress. Yea, that one, the one with the Eunuchs on the GOP side and the boobs to the left.
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    Mr. FriendlyMr. Friendly Member Posts: 7,981
    edited November -1
    wont happen. If this passes we may as well just go ahead and not work anymore. Working will yield the same benefit as not, merely existing
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    yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,344 ✭✭✭✭
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    I heard about this yesterday morning. Basically (say an apple) going through hands/process it gets taxed. When it gets picked it's taxed, then placed on a truck it's taxed, dropped off at a whole salers it's taxed, placed on yet another truck it's taxed, dropped off at the market it's taxed and finally you buy it it's taxed.

    So something that used to be a dollar is now like two dollars unless the store marks it down (to be competitive) buck and a half. Then the store closes and people go hungry. At least then everyone will be hungry not just the few. Might as well skip all this and go straight to third world status and have war lords "Mad Max" style.
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    jon ojon o Member Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not going to happen!! Paranoia!!
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    indy_kidindy_kid Member Posts: 531 ✭✭✭✭
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    For the Obama slammers, name ONE president who ever kept ALL his "promises" once in office? He has the impossible task of trying to undo the past 8 years of the Bush Administration's attack on America! Wasn't it a REPUBLICAN Congress that voted to remove all the check & balances on the banking industry that were put into place following the Great Depression? Ever wonder why those were there in the first place? They let the fox into the hen house.

    Face it: if McCain were in office right now, he would have done pretty much the SAME THINGS Obama has done, because that is what was REQUIRED to stabilize a very tenuous situation.

    IMHO, we're in a hole that NO ONE will get us out of; it's just a matter of time before the entire house of cards falls. Name-calling and finger-pointing at this late stage in the game is pointless.

    Those responsible have lived it up on our dime, and are now quietly living out the ends of their lives, with no concern for the future because they won't be a part of it.

    Better focus on what you need to do to get ready for the Big Fall. It's gonna be hell.
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    Mr. FriendlyMr. Friendly Member Posts: 7,981
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    quote:Originally posted by indy_kid
    For the Obama slammers, name ONE president who ever kept ALL his "promises" once in office? He has the impossible task of trying to undo the past 8 years of the Bush Administration's attack on America! Wasn't it a REPUBLICAN Congress that voted to remove all the check & balances on the banking industry that were put into place following the Great Depression? Ever wonder why those were there in the first place? They let the fox into the hen house.

    Face it: if McCain were in office right now, he would have done pretty much the SAME THINGS Obama has done, because that is what was REQUIRED to stabilize a very tenuous situation.

    IMHO, we're in a hole that NO ONE will get us out of; it's just a matter of time before the entire house of cards falls. Name-calling and finger-pointing at this late stage in the game is pointless.

    Those responsible have lived it up on our dime, and are now quietly living out the ends of their lives, with no concern for the future because they won't be a part of it.

    Better focus on what you need to do to get ready for the Big Fall. It's gonna be hell.
    Brainwashed rhetoric from another socialist.

    No, Obama did NOT have to do what he has done. He could have cut the chains of government dependency and allowed the chips to fall as they may. All he has done was bought a little time, what happens when it is time to pay the piper? Sooner or later this issue will come to a head, and the funds will dry out. Where does the line get drawn, how much are you willing to sacrafice? This country is done until the socialist programs, and victim mentality is dissolved
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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    VAT is extremely dangerous, as that tax is applied in "layers" from the raw materials, to the manufacturer, and any "middlemen" in between.

    The final victim is the consumer.
    It is a tax that hits the same item many times.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    MarkusMarkus Member Posts: 114 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    America should just declare bankruptsy. Then the rest of the world could follow suit and start all over again. [:D]
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