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Liberals want to say how you raise children
dheffley
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Joe should have busted Teddy boys backside a few times.
Massachusetts Proposal Would Outlaw Spanking
Tuesday , November 27, 2007
Kids out of line? Spanking might not be an option in Massachusetts if a proposal takes hold in the state legislature.
The proposal, submitted by a nurse, would ban corporal punishment, including spanking, in all cases for children under 18 unless it is to save them from danger. Parents would face charges of abuse or neglect, according to The Boston Herald.
A hearing and debate is scheduled in the State House on the measure Wednesday, the paper reports.
Democratic state Rep. Jay Kaufman introduced the measure on behalf of the nurse, but isn't taking a position on it.
"He does recognize and understand the concern many would have on legislating parental rights," said Sean Fitzgerald, Kaufman's chief of staff, the Herald reports. "But the problem is the boundary is often overstepped. The right to hit should never be the right to hurt."
Massachusetts Proposal Would Outlaw Spanking
Tuesday , November 27, 2007
Kids out of line? Spanking might not be an option in Massachusetts if a proposal takes hold in the state legislature.
The proposal, submitted by a nurse, would ban corporal punishment, including spanking, in all cases for children under 18 unless it is to save them from danger. Parents would face charges of abuse or neglect, according to The Boston Herald.
A hearing and debate is scheduled in the State House on the measure Wednesday, the paper reports.
Democratic state Rep. Jay Kaufman introduced the measure on behalf of the nurse, but isn't taking a position on it.
"He does recognize and understand the concern many would have on legislating parental rights," said Sean Fitzgerald, Kaufman's chief of staff, the Herald reports. "But the problem is the boundary is often overstepped. The right to hit should never be the right to hurt."
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I think he belongs in prison myself, for murder.
He reminds me of a squashed toad,.......therefore my favorite name, "Toady".
Liberals want to say how you raise children
Radical conservatives do the same.
dig them nails in the forearm no spanking required
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
Liberals want to say how you raise children
Radical conservatives do the same.
+1
This country is ridiculous with its "let's protect the kids from everything!" Feels good, huh?
No wonder we are raising a generation of whining, weak, undisciplined, entitled punks.
Next those convicted of spanking will have to register as "Child Offenders" for spanking a kid.
I wish Oswald would have shot Ted...
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
Liberals want to say how you raise children
Radical conservatives do the same.
I don't think so, I think most conservatives just want parents to "raise" their children and not leave it to the teachers, citizens and police to do it because they won't. In fact, it looks like the liberals (who don't want their children disciplined) don't want anyone else to discipline theirs either so no one can tell the difference in how a belief system affects the final product.[;)]
quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
Liberals want to say how you raise children
Radical conservatives do the same.
I don't think so, I think most conservatives just want parents to "raise" their children and not leave it to the teachers, citizens and police to do it because they won't. In fact, it looks like the liberals (who don't want their children disciplined) don't want anyone else to discipline theirs either so no one can tell the difference in how a belief system affects the final product.[;)]
Them old boys on the hills all the same to me. Damn straight
I don't have kids; but if I did and a spanking was deserved, then a spanking would be delivered.
I'm a Liberal. (Well, except when it comes to guns of course.)
I don't have kids; but if I did and a spanking was deserved, then a spanking would be delivered.
Then don't tell you friends, because those two differences are enough to get you kicked out of their club![:D]
Well my excuse will be "they were in danger of being a Liberal when they grow up".
Corporal punishment is so much more humane than chemical punishment and physiological manipulation/abuse.
Good God!
This country is ridiculous with its "let's protect the kids from everything!" Feels good, huh?
No wonder we are raising a generation of whining, weak, undisciplined, entitled punks.
Next those convicted of spanking will have to register as "Child Offenders" for spanking a kid.
+1 and it will be another reason to relieve individuals of their right to own a firearm![:0]
The key is to realizing that spanking does not work for everyone. Some kids just laugh it off or get vengefull and it has little effect.
It does work if started early enough.
Heck no, you can't let a kid be a brat, and then decide to spank a male child when he is 10 or 12 for the first time.
It worked on me, and was used early as was necessary.
The result of the waiting, is what I deal with now. My fiance is a wonderful woman, but does not like conflict, and let her brat son get away for far too long.
Now he is almost 14, and too big for her to handle,.......I can't touch him, as he is not my son, and he already threatened to call the police on her, and me, if I ever laid a hand on him.
The 10/22 I sold here recently was his Christmas present from me last year. It is gone now, and so is he.
I will not be threatened by a punk that I was paying bills for![xx(]
That being said, I still think it is extremely intrusive for the government to attempt to legislate this.
Who is more defenseless than a small child?
quote:Originally posted by rcrxs old lady
However, this does beg the question, why should it be acceptable to use physical voilence against a child, but if you did the same (essentially) to an adult, it is considered assault, and a crime?
Who is more defenseless than a small child?
Get real,..........the changing times, and declining values dictate you to be wrong.
Nothing personal, but a good swat never killed any kid, and back when that was common practice, things were quite a bit better.
The "chidrens" that are being brought up today,........just like I am going through, would have never happened years ago.
Look at the changes over the years, and apply as you wish.[xx(]
I am glad that you are one of the "lucky" ones, is all I can say.
Marc,
I am about as 'real" as "real" gets...declining values my butt. Values have been changing since the dawn of civilization. every generation thinks the next generation is incorigable. Kids get their values from their parents, they learn from example, if they have a realtionship with their parents and feel they trust them, they will look to them for sound and honest direction on what is right and wrong.
I've worked with emotionally disturbed/violent kids for years in the past, and whether you want to admit it or not, the one common thread in most situations is parents whose only effort at discipline is physical violence.
You are right about one thing, I do consider myself "lucky" in that the kids have (sofar) turned out pretty good, in spite of their parents
The gov't has told us how to raise our kids for years...this is not new...
Not new?
[V]
Like water dripping on a stone...
How can spanking a child save them from danger?
Got dang it there ZULU young son dont argue with the man he knows whats best for you and yourn. Damn straight
Ditto