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Australia now has a new federal government.

CeeWhyCeeWhy Member Posts: 106 ✭✭
edited November 2007 in General Discussion
The Liberal/National coalition (the "conservatives" of Australia), led by John Howard, has lost to the Labor Party led by Kevin Rudd. This is good news for gun owners: John Howard thinks that guns are evil (a conservative who hates guns, a bit odd, no?), while Kevin Rudd, despite being in charge of a center-left political party , actually has full support and enthusiasm for private gun owners and the shooting sports - he's actually a gun owner himself (again, a leftist political party with a gun-toting leader just goes to show how odd our political environment can be...).

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  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,183 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    I guess everything runs in reverse down under?
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    I was chatting with a person from Australia and are they ever brainwashed against the USA. We run around having gunfights in the streets like the old west, everyone is a killer, and they have no crime because they have no guns with which to commit crime.[:(]
  • CeeWhyCeeWhy Member Posts: 106 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    *sigh*

    True, true... There are many people in this nation ignorant of the truth. Fortunately, we're not all like that (though a lot of us are).
  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MT357
    I guess everything runs in reverse down under?
    Even their drains swirl backwards, i hear.[;)]
  • kiwibird1kiwibird1 Member Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was just in Sydney afew days ago. I was wondering how that was going to turn out.
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    Our hotel.
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    Thats great news that you guys got someone thats pro gun.
  • RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Classic095
    I was chatting with a person from Australia and are they ever brainwashed against the USA. We run around having gunfights in the streets like the old west, everyone is a killer, and they have no crime because they have no guns with which to commit crime.[:(]


    That's not just australia, that's pretty much the rest of the world.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Some in England think the same way. I have a few English Friends that come here every three months to shoot trap and skeet with us but they think Different..
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wonder if he is related to Phil Rudd (from AC/DC) [?]
  • Gibbs505Gibbs505 Member Posts: 3,175
    edited November -1
    I hope it works out for them!
  • WulfmannWulfmann Member Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is so ironic about crimes stats is even the UN figures show Australia as the most likely western nation to be a crime victim in.
    A person is 2.5 times as likely to be a victim as in the US based on per capita of every 100K people as the UN reported.

    Britain was number one but surpassed by Oz. In Britain a person is over 2 times as likely to be a crime victim as in the US.

    If they discounted crime in the US Hoods that might jump to 150 times the chance to be a victim (Probably higher but I did not want to appear insensitive[:D])

    I did a story once on Sydney and another on the Great Barrier Reef, great places too bad they gave up their freedom for security and now have neither!

    Wulfmann
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    "Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
    Otto von Bismarck
  • AZEXAZEX Member Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CY, how do you think this will effect Australia's committment to the War on the Evil Cult of Militant Islam?

    Everyone else has a caucauphonous segment of their society, seemingly willing to live under Sharia Law and demanding that everyone else be as stupid as they are. The traitors here in the US seem louder than most.

    D.
  • CeeWhyCeeWhy Member Posts: 106 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is the Labor Party stance on fighting militant Islam abroad, sourced from Wikipedia:

    quote:Rudd supports the continued deployment of Australian troops in Iraq, but not the continued deployment of combat troops. Rudd, in his role as shadow foreign minister had written a letter in November 2003 to Prime Minister John Howard offering policy ideas after the fall of Baghdad. Among his recommendations were a deployment of trainers for the New Iraqi army, and using the Australian Electoral Commission to help Iraq stage elections. However, Labor pledged in 2007 to replace 550 existing combat troops with new troops serving training and border security roles (possibly stationed in other countries around the Middle East), with a continued presence of over 1,000 Australian troops stationed in Iraq (in 2007, there were 1,575 Australian military personnel operating within Iraq). Rudd is also in favour of Australia's military presence in Afghanistan. Rudd is a supporter of the road map for peace and defended Israel's right to self-defence during the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict, condemning Hezbollah and Hamas for "violating" Israeli territory.

    In a nutshell:
    -Replace combat troops in Iraq with troops serving border security/training roles
    -Maintain the status quo on deployed forces in Afghanistan
    -Support the "road map to peace" in relation to Palestine. Supported Israel during the 2006 conflict.
  • AZEXAZEX Member Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very refreshing for a "left-leaning" government.

    Any clue, as a common type Aussie, why Howard got his a55 handed to him this election? Didn't he just handily win re-election 3 years ago?

    D.
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Classic095
    I was chatting with a person from Australia and are they ever brainwashed against the USA. We run around having gunfights in the streets like the old west, everyone is a killer, and they have no crime because they have no guns with which to commit crime.[:(]
    Yeah ... but isn't Australia a prison colony?
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • CeeWhyCeeWhy Member Posts: 106 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by AZEX
    Very refreshing for a "left-leaning" government.

    Any clue, as a common type Aussie, why Howard got his a55 handed to him this election? Didn't he just handily win re-election 3 years ago?

    D.


    His party won control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate last time, and he got arrogant, introducing legislation which he never mentioned in the 2004 election campaign. The biggest of these legislative mistakes was WorkChoices, which screwed over worker's rights big-time. With workers ticked off and a need for change in the air (he had been the Prime Minister for close to 12 years), everyone threw their support behind the Labor party, resulting in an electoral landslide.
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