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A drunken Indian................

SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
.......... I wonder how many of our younger members ever heard this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDLQWEvubc

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  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Outsider was a pretty good movie about him.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Was that the movie,where Lee Marvin played his part?
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    Good Lord. The man should be on the list of people that everybody knows. Hardly anybody did, till Johnny Cash stepped in. Not that Johnny did anything else but sing about him, but he brought him to attention. Well deserved. By his own accounts. As I recall, Adam Beach portrayed him well, in "Flags of Our Fathers".

    RIP, Ira. You earned it.

    And, I will never forget.

    Dan
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I paid my respects to his grave when I was at Arlington Cemetery, as well as those of Mike Strank and Rene Gagnon.

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  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had to look it up. Tony Curtis played Ira Hayes in the 1961 The Outsider.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,375 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    another sad ending to a hero ,
    may he RIP
  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought everyone knew the story about Ira Hayes. But, I'm not surprised.
    I teach Washington State Hunters Safety, most of my students don't know who John Wayne was, much less Annie Oakley, Col David Crocket or Daniel Boone. This indeed a sad state of affairs.
    W.D.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CapnMidnight
    I thought everyone knew the story about Ira Hayes. But, I'm not surprised.
    I teach Washington State Hunters Safety, most of my students don't know who John Wayne was, much less Annie Oakley, Col David Crocket or Daniel Boone. This indeed a sad state of affairs.
    W.D.


    Capt, honestly and embarrassingly enough, I did not remember who he was, until I listened to the song and read they captions. I was never taught this in school or don't remember it. I do remember reading about him in war books after school, but forgot who he was. As much as a WWII buff that I am, I totally forgot who he was. Embarrassing, but I guess I am a product of the 60's and 70's where we learned more about Vietnam then we did WWII. Oakie
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oakie, don't be so hard on yourself. If you did a Jesse Watters style man on the street interview you would find very few who know about the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima. Of those who do know about it, if they remember any names it would be Joe Rosenthal and Ira Hayes.

    I was preparing to start feeling all superior to you when I realized to my shame I didn't know the names of any of the other five. Probably the reason I remember Ira Hayes is movies, radio programs and TV shows were made about him. Before I could form a smirk on my face that knocked it right off. I join you in your embarrassment. To my further embarrassment I know that a week from now the only names I'll remember are Joe Rosenthal and Ira Hayes.

    The Heroes are:

    CPL Harlon Block, USMC died in Iwo Jima, Japan 1 March 1945

    PHM2 John Bradley, USN died in Antigo, Wisconsin 11 January 1994

    CPL Rene Gagnon, USMC died in Manchester, N.H. 12 October 1979

    CPL Ira Hayes, USMC died in Bapchule, Arizona 24 January 1955

    PFC Franklin Sousley, USMC died in Iwo Jima, Japan 21 March 1945

    SGT Michael Strank, USMC died in Iwo Jima, Japan 1 March 1945

    Joe Rosenthal took the picture on 23 February 1945
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Need to read.

    Flags-of-our-Fathers_1.jpg



    Just think of all the Folks who Say PTSD is something NEW.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was one of the millions of kids who saw Ira Hayes when he and some of his flag raising buddies visited my hometown were in a parade with a company of 23rd Marine reservists.
    What's next?
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy

    Just think of all the Folks who Say PTSD is something NEW.


    It isn't new.....it's just now become acceptable to use it as an excuse.
  • swearengineswearengine Member Posts: 1,308 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    Oakie, don't be so hard on yourself. If you did a Jesse Watters style man on the street interview you would find very few who know about the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima. Of those who do know about it, if they remember any names it would be Joe Rosenthal and Ira Hayes.

    I was preparing to start feeling all superior to you when I realized to my shame I didn't know the names of any of the other five. Probably the reason I remember Ira Hayes is movies, radio programs and TV shows were made about him. Before I could form a smirk on my face that knocked it right off. I join you in your embarrassment. To my further embarrassment I know that a week from now the only names I'll remember are Joe Rosenthal and Ira Hayes.

    The Heroes are:

    CPL Harlon Block, USMC died in Iwo Jima, Japan 1 March 1945

    PHM2 John Bradley, USN died in Antigo, Wisconsin 11 January 1994

    CPL Rene Gagnon, USMC died in Manchester, N.H. 12 October 1979

    CPL Ira Hayes, USMC died in Bapchule, Arizona 24 January 1955

    PFC Franklin Sousley, USMC died in Iwo Jima, Japan 21 March 1945

    SGT Michael Strank, USMC died in Iwo Jima, Japan 1 March 1945

    Joe Rosenthal took the picture on 23 February 1945





    Harlon Block helped raise the first flag. Not the one that garnered all the attention.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy

    Just think of all the Folks who Say PTSD is something NEW.


    It isn't new.....it's just now become acceptable to use it as an excuse.


    Give it awhile longer Rack and it'll be the PTSD Holocaust.
    What's next?
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy

    Just think of all the Folks who Say PTSD is something NEW.


    It isn't new.....it's just now become acceptable to use it as an excuse.


    Give it awhile longer Rack and it'll be the PTSD Holocaust.


    Shame it is one of those thinks that there is no real test to see if they have it that's why all the Abusers. When folk like Ira suffer for real.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy

    Just think of all the Folks who Say PTSD is something NEW.


    It isn't new.....it's just now become acceptable to use it as an excuse.


    Give it awhile longer Rack and it'll be the PTSD Holocaust.


    Shame it is one of those thinks that there is no real test to see if they have it that's why all the Abusers. When folk like Ira suffer for real.


    Agree.
    What's next?
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Posted - 03/21/2015 : 3:32:47 PM Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
    Need to read.

    Read it and it was hard to do. Made me remember some stuff I'd spent a lot of time and whiskey trying to forget.
  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I need to take some time to visit his grave soon.



    One of the Marines in Flags of our Fathers was buried last month (obviously not one of the flag raisers).

    quote:William Faulkner was 21 when he landed on Iwo Jima for what would become one of history's bloodiest battles.

    Sixty-five years later, the St. Charles man says he still can't explain how he survived 18 days on the tiny Pacific island where so many of his fellow troops died.


    "I had a lot of friends right next to me get killed," he said. "You often wonder, How does that happen to them and not to you?"

    Faulkner rarely speaks about his service in World War II but agreed to do so in commemoration of the 65th anniversary of the Battle of Iwo Jima, which ended after 35 days of intense fighting on March 26, 1945, and was forever memorialized in an iconic photo of six U.S. troops raising a flag on Mount Suribachi.
    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20100325/news/303259967/
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