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IN Nat. Guard to arm themselves
tapwater
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..After the shootings at recruitment centers, the IN governor made a move. Since the Armed Forces won't issue arms or live ammo to Guardsmen, he proclaimed that they could carry personal handguns while on the job. This includes recruitment offices and N.G. armories, assuming they have IN carry permits.
..Why won't the military issue arms and ammo to troops? Can they not be trusted? One retired general's answer was to "harden" recruitment centers with bullet resistant windows and doors. Really? Soldiers are supposed to hunker down and wait for police to arrive. Insane!
..Why won't the military issue arms and ammo to troops? Can they not be trusted? One retired general's answer was to "harden" recruitment centers with bullet resistant windows and doors. Really? Soldiers are supposed to hunker down and wait for police to arrive. Insane!
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I do accept the military has concerns that certain duties would conflict with carrying guns all the time. Well, okay then, let's not use that as an excuse to do nothing. I want to see the military figure out who can carry without it interfering with their stateside duties and who cannot. Shouldn't take more than a few days to get that rolling small scale.
Likely as not it will take endless months of debate, millions of dollars in studies. Followed by the contracting out to private security services what our military should be doing itself.
Brad Steele
Smoothing the way for National Guard to go armed is a nice first step. We need more than that. Hope we get it.
I do accept the military has concerns that certain duties would conflict with carrying guns all the time. Well, okay then, let's not use that as an excuse to do nothing. I want to see the military figure out who can carry without it interfering with their stateside duties and who cannot. Shouldn't take more than a few days to get that rolling small scale.
Likely as not it will take endless months of debate, millions of dollars in studies. Followed by the contracting out to private security services what our military should be doing itself.
..It goes into effect immediately, but anyone to carry has to go through more testing to "bring them up to standards". It also goes for civilians working on military bases or armories.
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
..Correct.
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
Ironic,isn't it? Volunteer service to defend rights under the Constitution while at the same time being denied those same rights.quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
I thought I was the only one that noticed that.
quote:Originally posted by SG
Ironic,isn't it? Volunteer service to defend rights under the Constitution while at the same time being denied those same rights.quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
I thought I was the only one that noticed that.
That was my point.
I don't see why Police or Guardsmen should be treated any differently than anyone else while off not on duty, but while on duty, disarming them absent a carry permit seems a bit silly.
Unless, of course, police in Indiana are required to have Indiana Carry Permit before they can be armed.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
..Correct.
That actually makes sense as airforce members are not required to fire a weapon in basic training.
..My son had minimal training on the rifle (about 30 rounds) and
zero on a handgun.
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quote:Originally posted by tapwater
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
..Correct.
That actually makes sense as airforce members are not required to fire a weapon in basic training.
Carry permits in my state are nothing but a background check.
Not that it matters, but is Indiana any different. Please note that the Guardsmen would be permitted to carry their personal weapons. Your statement suggests that you are firmly against Constitutional Carry.
No citizen should be allowed to carry a firearm absent proper vetting by the authorities.
Am I reading you correctly, kidsthatsirsh?
Are you from the O'Brady clan?
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by kidthatsirish
quote:Originally posted by tapwater
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
..Correct.
That actually makes sense as airforce members are not required to fire a weapon in basic training.
Carry permits in my state are nothing but a background check.
Not that it matters, but is Indiana any different. Please note that the Guardsmen would be permitted to carry their personal weapons. Your statement suggests that you are firmly against Constitutional Carry.
No citizen should be allowed to carry a firearm absent proper vetting by the authorities.
Am I reading you correctly, kidsthatsirsh?
Are you from the O'Brady clan?
Didn't think green font was needed Don.....I'm just a Navy man trying to poke and joke with our sister branch.[}:)]
Speaking of O'Brady...they have really good wings at Beef O'Brady's....hmm that could be really tasty right now.[8D]
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by kidthatsirish
quote:Originally posted by tapwater
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
..Correct.
That actually makes sense as airforce members are not required to fire a weapon in basic training.
Carry permits in my state are nothing but a background check.
Not that it matters, but is Indiana any different. Please note that the Guardsmen would be permitted to carry their personal weapons. Your statement suggests that you are firmly against Constitutional Carry.
No citizen should be allowed to carry a firearm absent proper vetting by the authorities.
Am I reading you correctly, kidsthatsirsh?
Are you from the O'Brady clan?
Didn't think green font was needed Don.....I'm just a Navy man trying to poke and joke with our sister branch.[}:)]
Speaking of O'Brady...they have really good wings at Beef O'Brady's....hmm that could be really tasty right now.[8D]
Oops.[:I]
I get so fed up with supposed 2nd Amendment supporters would are big fans of carry permits, background checks, etc. that I tend to go off half-cocked on occasion.
Please accept my apologies. Every now and again, something will go right over my head. Probably a lot more often than I realize....
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by kidthatsirish
quote:Originally posted by tapwater
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
So long as they have Indiana Carry permits?
..Correct.
That actually makes sense as airforce members are not required to fire a weapon in basic training.
Carry permits in my state are nothing but a background check.
Not that it matters, but is Indiana any different. Please note that the Guardsmen would be permitted to carry their personal weapons. Your statement suggests that you are firmly against Constitutional Carry.
No citizen should be allowed to carry a firearm absent proper vetting by the authorities.
Am I reading you correctly, kidsthatsirsh?
Are you from the O'Brady clan?
A background check and a one time $125 tax, good for life. Pence's deal isn't perfect, but it's good for those who weren't carrying already without his permission.