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Silly ATF audit..lasted all of 15 minutes if that!
Locust Fork
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The guy shows up to introduce himself and let us know he will be back the next day to start an inspection. (I've done enough of these over the years and this was pretty normal.) He verifies our FFL# and is a bit confused because he is not showing the same number......he has an old FFL#.
When we got the LLC going we had to get a new FFL because it "renamed" the business and everything has to match. When they did the last inspection they should have caught this mess....but they aren't in this to find THEIR errors. [:D]
I just thought it was funny because the guy was so confused. I did get to hand over a bunch of boxes that were stored away in the barn.
When we got the LLC going we had to get a new FFL because it "renamed" the business and everything has to match. When they did the last inspection they should have caught this mess....but they aren't in this to find THEIR errors. [:D]
I just thought it was funny because the guy was so confused. I did get to hand over a bunch of boxes that were stored away in the barn.
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So that is what you do with the boxes when I buy guns from you.[:D]
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Two agents, four and a half days = no runs, no hits, no errors! The agents though made 4 minor mistakes which were caught in the final review.
"Silly ATF audit..lasted all of 15 minutes if that!" You should call his boss and complain that he didn't spend enough time at your place and you want a proper audit. Mention that you pay their salaries. HAHA We just had our ATF audit last week. Told us they would be here a week but finished in two days. They are pretty nice folks here.
These guys are also all pretty decent. The guy that did our first audit has been promoted and is our region's supervisor. He is the one I talked to at the gun show. My one and ONLY issue has always been the "common sense" thing. No matter how stupid it is....you cannot expect to be able to use common sense.
We had a county police officer who bought a single shot shotgun. He got a delay. The next day he decided he wanted to buy a second single shot so he could put them in both bathrooms (I didn't ask details.) You would think you could just add that gun to the second sheet.....but NOOOooooooooo.....that is what a normal person would do and we cannot do things that way.
These guys are also all pretty decent. The guy that did our first audit has been promoted and is our region's supervisor. He is the one I talked to at the gun show. My one and ONLY issue has always been the "common sense" thing. No matter how stupid it is....you cannot expect to be able to use common sense.
We had a county police officer who bought a single shot shotgun. He got a delay. The next day he decided he wanted to buy a second single shot so he could put them in both bathrooms (I didn't ask details.) You would think you could just add that gun to the second sheet.....but NOOOooooooooo.....that is what a normal person would do and we cannot do things that way.
(I don't keep any single-shots in my bathrooms) but there is room on the 4473 for more than one firearm -- I've had more than one come into the shop where I get transfers done in a single week, and they've used the same 4473 -- noting and dating each firearm individually on it. Are you saying this isn't proper?
quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
These guys are also all pretty decent. The guy that did our first audit has been promoted and is our region's supervisor. He is the one I talked to at the gun show. My one and ONLY issue has always been the "common sense" thing. No matter how stupid it is....you cannot expect to be able to use common sense.
We had a county police officer who bought a single shot shotgun. He got a delay. The next day he decided he wanted to buy a second single shot so he could put them in both bathrooms (I didn't ask details.) You would think you could just add that gun to the second sheet.....but NOOOooooooooo.....that is what a normal person would do and we cannot do things that way.
(I don't keep any single-shots in my bathrooms) but there is room on the 4473 for more than one firearm -- I've had more than one come into the shop where I get transfers done in a single week, and they've used the same 4473 -- noting and dating each firearm individually on it. Are you saying this isn't proper?
That is one of the stupid mistakes they counted as an error during that one inspection several years ago. They said you should do a new form once someone leaves the building....you cannot add to the sheet once the transaction is over. Its crazy to me....but the next agent that does an inspection will have his own ideas on this, so you cannot be "right" on anything any way.
Have some of this for air freshener on hand for next time they come.
http://www.liquidass.com/
I have some of that. I bought it to mess with guys at work. We had to go to the porta johns (in july/august) to get some fresh air. That should tell you all you need to know.