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True story--before all the firearm laws

beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
It was about 1960--I was about 16-17. A friend calls me and asks if I want to go to a little country store in Mississippi (about 20 miles from where we lived in Tennessee) and buy some fireworks. Some holiday was coming up (New Years, 4th of July, etc.) and he had heard this country store had gobs of fireworks. Now bear in mind, at this period of time just about any type of fireworks, just short of dynamite, was perfectly legal.

We drove to the store on gravel roads and found the store at a crossroad which appeared to be in the middle of cotton fields.

Inside, we found M-80 Bulldogs, original cherry bombs by the barrels full.

While we were there I wondered around and noticed he had some handguns in a glass case. The old country fellow (owner) was standing there and I asked him "how old do you have to be to buy a gun?"

He looked at me and said "12".
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  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    don't you miss those old Mom and Pop country stores? we had one about 2 miles away. a big pot bellied stove heated the building. a pile of coal clinkers outside, free to anyone to fill the potholes in their driveway. a meat cooler where you got the lunch meats cut to your specifications, never pre packaged. canned goods behind on the walls. guns and ammo across the store from the cash register. pick out what you needed then pay for it. penny candy jars everywhere. outside the old man had a drive on oil change rack. put your car off the ground high enough to walk under it. 1 gasoline pump. a barrel rack for kerosene. these people ran this store from the Depression on. sent 4 kids onto college. the owners both died in the 80s 2 weeks apart in 1964. the location was torn down and is now a propane distribution farm. life was much simpler then
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep. About the same age. I remember when I saw ads for all kinds of guns in magazines. One particularly stuck in my mind, two S&W .38s and a two holster rig, for $25. But I didn't have $25. And I was more interested in .22s and muzzle loaders then.[8D]
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    my 1st gun was a sporterised Enfield 303 $12 from MONKEY WARDS catalogue in 1962
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think I am more of the "rode hard and put away wet" variety...what I do remember was the stacks and stacks of 16 gauge! my all around gun. dad's sweet 16 with the safety INSIDE the trigger guard. still in my safe awaiting the time to be passed down to my grandson. we didn't buy the 1 or 2 shells, but I was rationed a daily amount depending on what I was hunting. 5 for rabbit and 10 for quail. 10 year old kids might want to spray and pray if I toted a box full you know[:D]
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    all those days are long gone along with honesty , and self respect , to know how to follow the basic golden rules .
    I was in on the tail end of it , but I do miss the old wood floor mom and pop shops , felt like part of the family when you went to one.
    I would wager some people have more food and goods in there house than some of the smaller stores had for inventory at that time in our past .
    I remember for a quarter ( not that I had one very often [:I]) would buy 16 oz RC or Pepsi ( 15 cents counting the 2 cent deposit ) and a dime candy bar big enough it would count for two people now .
    I remember dad had one box of 22 ammo I think it had a 49 cent price tag on it and a box of 16 ga shot shells that was his stock pile , thanks goodness the Zombies did not attack when I was a kid [:D]
  • mossberg500manmossberg500man Member Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The other day i bought an issue of sports afield from 1960 at an estate sale....awesome old ads but i almost wanna cry reading the prices haha
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ditch Runner.....you were brought up wrong...with that 25 cents you should have bought a big RC and a Mr Peanut bag of salted peanuts to dump into your RC cola...maybe it was a midwest thing tho, so a candy bar was ok.[:)]
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I missed most of the good stuff.
    I have a Winchester 1873 Short that my Dad bought in about 1939 or 40 for $10.00. It hung in a gas station in a little town where my Grandparents would go in the summer. My Dad asked the old Man about it and the guy told him, Sonny bring me $10.00 and you can have it. The next summer, my Grandparents pulled into their cottage and my Dad beat feet to town and walked home with the gun on his shoulder!
    He said it sure was a lot nicer when he first got it!!
    I smile every time I look at it!!
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Country store, I imagine the closets one to me is probably about 50 miles away.
  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    There's a country store at a rural crossroads near here, that was started in 1894. It's still run by a descendant of the original owners, who is now in his 70's. The store has an array of canned goods, dry goods, a meat&cheese counter where the stuff is custom-sliced, and other goods. The best part is the public facilities: a pair of outhouses out back, just to the east. Those were grandfathered when the State passed a law about retail establishments having to provide public facilities. [:)]
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    I remember sitting on the front porch of the store and lifting the lid on the ice chest where you searched for the flavor of soda you wanted. Coke,Hires root beer, orange or grape, and then you went into the store to pay for it after you sat outside and drank it.

    Inside the ceiling was about 12 feet up and the shelves went all the way to the top. You could get just about anything you needed including mothballs,shoe polish, rolls of barbed wire and staples, ammo and fishhooks, sacks of flour and sugar, rubber boots to wear while cleaning the barn, White owl and swisher sweet cigars, little pouches of Bull Durham and big cans of Top, and lots of cheap candy that isn't made anymore. The smell in that place was wonderful.
  • Chief ShawayChief Shaway Member, Moderator Posts: 6,289 ******
    edited November -1
    I graduated in 87.
    I carried a smoothbore flintlock on the bus for a prop for a speech.
    I carried it in the school, took it to the office for safe keeping and back on the bus for the ride home.
    During hunting season there was always a gun in the car for hunting after school.
    Now they get expelled if they have a butter knife on school property.
    The good old days were not really that long ago.
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    YE OLD HUNTER sold surplus guns BY THE POUND
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Inside, we found M-80 Bulldogs, original cherry bombs by the barrels full.

    Many a tin can met its demise while being launched into the air. Remember M80's were at least twice a powerful as Cherry Bombs. Think you could flush a cherry bomb down a toilet and the toilet was good to go after the "bang".
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    we did that also , dumped the peanuts into the RC [:D] I just thought people would think I was "nuts for saying and doing it "


    quote:Originally posted by discusdad
    Ditch Runner.....you were brought up wrong...with that 25 cents you should have bought a big RC and a Mr Peanut bag of salted peanuts to dump into your RC cola...maybe it was a midwest thing tho, so a candy bar was ok.[:)]
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    family service station sold firearms, ammo, and fishing gear...it was in business for more than 50 years ...i started working there when i was 12...just plunk yer money down and i would sell you a high standard 22 and shells and any shotgun and shells you wanted...when i was in high school i took pickup to our supplier and filled it up with guns, ammo, and fishing gear....this was long before box stores
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i knew you did. it was "the thing" to do if you was cool!
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use to walk down main street with my 22 and traps, headed out to the creek to do some trapping. I would take the pelts to the hardware store in Maple shade and trade Mr Ferace the pelts for shells and next years licenses. I know all the pelts didn't add up to the cost of what he gave me, but he always took care of me, as he was a good neighbor of ours. My dad would make us work for our hunting stuff and never just give it to us. I liked that place and was sad to see it go. Times sure have changed. Even though my dad owned a gun store, I liked trapping and earning my own money to buy shells and stuff from the hardware store. It made me feel liked I earned it.
  • RCrosbyRCrosby Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    '62 to '66 our indoor rifle range was in the basement of the elementary school.
  • JimmyJackJimmyJack Member Posts: 5,515 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I remember well! In 1958 I bought a .22 pistol at the surplus store on the way home from school for $7.00 and I still have it. I lost the rod that pushes the empty shells out. Sure wish I could find one.
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Peanuts in the drink, every time. Thought it was a Southern thing. Pepsi, Dr Pepper, Seven Up, even a TruAide, required peanuts.
    RC, no that was a minority drink.
    My GF ran a store in part of what was a 20s-30s Road House. My Uncles had an upholstery shop in the other part. It was wonderful to go there as a kid. Big fireplace on one end. Hoop cheese in a wooden box and crackers in a barrel. Big coffee grinder on the counter. Drink chests with all those ice cold bottles, Upper 10, Sun Crest, and all the rest. When it was a road house, it was like a park, with animals out back. Still had cages for some with bars where they said bears and gorillas were kept. When he first bought the place, it had gravity gas pumps, but he changed to more modern ones in the 50s.
    Great days.[8D]
    Building is still there, I wish I could buy it.

    Sadly, this post reminded me I was hoping to go to the old store and look around, so I checked Google Earth, and it has been recently torn down.[:(] More lost memories.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    it was southern ( peanuts in your bottle of pop ) at lest my family my Dad and part of my moms family migrated to Ohio in the late 50's. there was just no work there area in Tennessee [:(]

    quote:Originally posted by fideau
    Peanuts in the drink, every time. Thought it was a Southern thing. Pepsi, Dr Pepper, Seven Up, even a TruAide, required peanuts.
    RC, no that was a minority drink.
    My GF ran a store in part of what was a 20s-30s Road House. My Uncles had an upholstery shop in the other part. It was wonderful to go there as a kid. Big fireplace on one end. Hoop cheese in a wooden box and crackers in a barrel. Big coffee grinder on the counter. Drink chests with all those ice cold bottles, Upper 10, Sun Crest, and all the rest. When it was a road house, it was like a park, with animals out back. Still had cages for some with bars where they said bears and gorillas were kept. When he first bought the place, it had gravity gas pumps, but he changed to more modern ones in the 50s.
    Great days.[8D]
    Building is still there, I wish I could buy it.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    I remember sitting on the front porch of the store and lifting the lid on the ice chest where you searched for the flavor of soda you wanted. Coke,Hires root beer, orange or grape, and then you went into the store to pay for it after you sat outside and drank it.

    Inside the ceiling was about 12 feet up and the shelves went all the way to the top. You could get just about anything you needed including mothballs,shoe polish, rolls of barbed wire and staples, ammo and fishhooks, sacks of flour and sugar, rubber boots to wear while cleaning the barn, White owl and swisher sweet cigars, little pouches of Bull Durham and big cans of Top, and lots of cheap candy that isn't made anymore. The smell in that place was wonderful.

    That reminds me of Woolrabs variety in Gibbstown NJ.Circa 1966.2 for a penny candies when I first went there.Miss it,it was a big part of my childhood.
    It was 10 miles from the farm though so,It was a treat to go there!!
  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,052 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    my older brother and i recieved .50 a week on the farm, i was 9 and my brother was 11 and we would buy a box of .22 shorts(.40 and two packs of camels .46 on saturday when we went to town and we would trade a pack of the camels for 25 .22 shorts to each other and spend the rest on .01 candy. it all came to a scheehing halt when we were caught smoking in the barn. according to T.S uncle albert,haven,t smoked in the last 42 years.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    When I was a boy I wanted to buy a hunting knife. Not for myself, a birthday gift (or was it Christmas?) for an older relation who was going on his first deer hunt. I rode a city bus to a sporting goods store and bought the biggest longest bladed beauty Buck made at that time.

    I was working a couple of part time jobs, been saving my money.

    Got that home and showed my mother, she was not happy. Said the store should not have sold me so large knife. Said the older boy I was giving it to would get in trouble with a knife like that. Did not comprehend what sort of trouble could come of a long blade like that. But mom told me to go back and exchange it for something smaller.

    I asked if I could keep the big knife. Without hesitation she said yes, but told me not to show it around.

    So I went back on the bus to that store and the shopkeeper remembered me buying the big knife. Wondered why I was back for another knife, so I told him why. He said maybe he shouldn't have sold me the big knife, but if my mother said I should go buy a smaller one then that was fine. Picked another Buck the storekeeper said would be better for skinning deer.

    That young relative still has that Buck knife, I don't recall the model.

    I still have the big Buck, which I never used but to whittle a bit of wood with now and then.

    But heck I like the thing, took it backpacking a lot. It rode in the pack. Had in my caving pack too sometimes.

    You know, just in case of a Cave Bear coming along.

    Can't ever be too wary of Cave Bears.
  • EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the 1950s and 1960s i grew up in Napa Calfornia.We had several stores i liked going to. Brewsters Army/Navy surplus store. It had real surplus stuff like mummy sleeping bags, fuel tablets, misc. NOS Jeep engine parts, uniforms, barrels of rank patches, helmets, camo nets, parachutes, practice bombs full of chalk, bayonets, cans of grease and oil, a barrel of Plomb wrenches that were all the same size, folding shovels, a wooden barrel of KOOKIE combs, misc. electrical stuff. There was wooden barrels full of rifles for $17.00 each, but i no idea what they were. Cases of spray paint for 10 cents a can and GI bore cleaner also a dime. They also has NOS water pumps and distributors for Ford flathead inline 6 cylinder engines. Popeye sailor hats. Mops, buckets, brooms and pitchforks. I am sure i am leaving out many things, but i do remember everything was dirt cheap and made in the U.S.A. No beef jerkey, no cheap made in China crap. local feed store sold pest control bombs that we now call cherry bombs and had loads of 22 LR ammo. Hardware store across from high school sold M1 Carbines for $79.00 plus tax. You bought nails, nuts and bolts by the pound. They sold real hardware including dynamite. They also sold calcium carbide for lamps, bulk kerosene and white gas. They had wooden kegs of square nails and a catalog were you could order a Aermotor windmill, a fence charger or a tool to denut your farm animals. All these type of stores had a bulletin board with lots of goodies for sale.

    EvilDr235
  • bigt7mmbigt7mm Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Puh-leeze! You expect us to believe a story like THAT?

    I made my first gun purchase when I turned 18.

    Walked in to a Western Auto and bought a shiny new Ruger 10-22 for $79.

    I still have it and it is the first one I grab when heading to the woods.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigt7mm
    Puh-leeze! You expect us to believe a story like THAT?

    I made my first gun purchase when I turned 18.

    Walked in to a Western Auto and bought a shiny new Ruger 10-22 for $79.

    I still have it and it is the first one I grab when heading to the woods.


    Ruger 10/22 was my first buy also. $59 from Jensen's in Tucson. Still under age though, my parents had to do the actual buying but it was my savings [:D]
  • bigt7mmbigt7mm Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • themountainmanthemountainman Member Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My first paying job was to ride my JC Higgins bike OVER to a foot bridge near a neighbors still when you saw the smoke rising up. getting a ten pound MArtha White flower sack hanging from a rope from a foot bridge. Riding about 5 milesto an old country store and handing over the sack when no one was around. The owner gave me a $10 and $1 bill. I rode back and left the $10 in the neighbors barn post and keeping the $1 bill.
    There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those who can do math and those who can't. :?
  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    Got my first centerfire from an Army-Navy store when I was 16, a No.4 SMLE. It was $14.77. They had Enfield .38's for $12, and I wanted one, but you had to be 18. So my pistol shooting was confined to a box of Iver and Forehand & Wadsworth .32's and .38's that a friend had. The local Marshall-Wells hardware store always had ammo, usually 'Dominion' from Canada.

    It was a good SMLE. It gave service as general critter controller for various family members for 35 years, until it was stolen in a burglary.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My first gun purchase came from westenauto also
    I knew the family who owned it and worked in a grocery store next door .
    it was a 22 made to look like a ar15 cost me 79.00 they let me make payments on it [:I]. I sold it a long time ago , but it was some odd ball brand I have seen a couple over the years made in the Philippine's ( sp ) but it was my First firearm I bought with my money [;)] as I was 16 my dad had to sign for it thought .

    quote:Originally posted by bigt7mm
    Puh-leeze! You expect us to believe a story like THAT?

    I made my first gun purchase when I turned 18.

    Walked in to a Western Auto and bought a shiny new Ruger 10-22 for $79.

    I still have it and it is the first one I grab when heading to the woods.
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,694 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I remember going to a great old army surplus store in north Atlanta, on Buford Highway, in 1962. This huge old store had every thing from WW2, I mean, there was lots of surplus stuff back then.
    I recall, right by the cash register, there was a barrel of old WW2 Mausers for $15 each.
    Right next to that, a pile of German milsurp ammo, real cheap.
    I could have given that guy 20 bucks and walked out with a great German rifle and an arm load of ammo. And I had the money, from mowing lawns!
    Perfectly legal back than, I was 11 years old.

    But, for some reason my Mom was not too keen on that deal.
  • yblockheadyblockhead Member Posts: 947 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I remember going to the Coast to Coast hardware store as a kid. Used to buy their brand of .22 shells in the shiny boxes (I think they were Dominion) for like .59 cents. Closest thing I had to a "Mom and Pop" store growing up.
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In 1973, I was 17 years old.
    Loaded up my old station wagon with 3 other teenagers and an anshutz 1413, a 1408, Winny model 52, and a Rem 513t, and lots of ammo.

    We set out to go to the Winchester rifle range in Conn.

    We got lost on the way, so I stopped next to a Conn. state trooper to ask directions. He asked why we were going there?

    I told him we were a Jr. rifle team from NY and we were going to a
    match.

    He gave me directions and wished us good luck.


    Today, we would have been arrested as terrorist.[V]
  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In Philadelphia, it is 11. But you can "borrow" one as young as 5.
  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This has been one of the best threads EVER posted here.
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1BigGuy
    This has been one of the best threads EVER posted here.


    +1[;)][:D]
  • wiz1997wiz1997 Member Posts: 1,051 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Houston in the early 1970's.

    After a big rain storm the local bayous would flood out rats and snakes.

    Friends and I would grab the 22's, wrap them in a blanket, strap them on the handle bars of the bikes and head for the bayou for some moving target practice.

    Encountered a Police cruiser one day, he spun around and came up behind us. Flipped his lights on and "whooped" us once.

    Asked us what was in the blanket and where were we going. Told the truth, rifles and going to the bayou to shoot rats and snakes.

    He told us to be careful and drove off.

    A definition may be in order for some: A Bayou is a very slow moving body of water, bigger than a creek, sort of a river only slower.[:D]
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Great stories, guys.

    I did not really grow up around guns. Dad had a bolt action 30-06, a pump shotgun and a single shot .22. They were tools and not for us children to touch.

    I am doing my best to make up for lost time and passing the love of firearms and freedom on to my children.
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