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WOW, the price of guns!!!!!!! Rant???

OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
Man have they gone through the roof. I was pricing out some of my guns and looking for a few new ones. My 41 magnum with the 8 3/8 barrel new, I paid 424. Now, 1,500. My ruger 22 hornets, I paid around 350. Now 750 to 900 used. Then there are the few with the I don't want to sell it price. I am looking for a Browning High grade, Model 65, 218 bee. They have stayed at about 1,400. One guy has the gun, but in just regular grade, plain jane, for 2,000 used. Really???? They run about 750 to 800 everywhere you look. Ammo too is just ridiculous. Remington 22 hornet ammo for 80 dollars a box. Where do some people get these prices and why even bother wasting your time advertising, if you are going to ask two to three times the going rate. Oakie

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  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is a world of difference between the asking price and the selling price.

    I have been to enough gun show as of late to notice high prices you are talking about. I have spent enough time at gun shows to notice no one is exiting with a firearm of any type.

    We have a Gander Mt here that has most guns at exorbitant prices. There is a locally owned gun store that discounts firearms and outsells gander 10 to one.

    Same game on GB, there are sellers who have items with a ridiculous reserve or starting price. I have seen items listed/relisted on GB for many years. Never see any bids either. Apparently some people are hoarding bytes rather than trying to sell.
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guns and ammo are some of the best investments. I blame some of the ammo shortage on this.
  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Everything costs more, now. Old things are no longer made and demand rises so they go up in value. Inflation makes the money worth less than it was so it takes more of it. But I hear what you're saying.

    I am astounded at the thought of a cheap "throw away" handgun commanding $400. But then I guess $400 is worth what it used to be worth.

    I have three Pythons. I have a total of $1,050 invested in all of them. Can't buy one for that money, today because of inflation and demand for guns no longer manufactured. In 1973 I paid $135 for a brand new Colt Government model. In 1975 I added ivory stocks at $32.50. Now that gun would sell for 10X what I have in it. Of course in 1973 I was making $1.65 an hour so it's all relative.

    Someone recently sold a Remington Model 581 .22 rifle. This was the cheap economy model. When I bought mine new in 1968 it $49.95. I bid $135 out of nostalgia. HA! It sold for over $500. If I had $500 to spend on a 22 I sure wouldn't buy a 581.

    I think a factor in gun sales and prices is the nostalgia I mentioned. The Baby Boomers are in their 50s and they want to recapture their youth...and they have the money to do it. I have bought several guns in the past few years for no reason other than I owned similar guns when I was young. Lots of guys are doing this, I believe, and they are driving prices up.

    It is what it is. I remember when a dollar a cartridge was reserved for the exotic European elephant gun ammo. Now you pay more than that for Remington 30-30s.

    I'm glad I bought when I did. I couldn't afford to acquire them now. I am definitely putting the brakes on my gun buying these days. I was stunned at having to shell out $1,200 for a shooter Colt. Ok, I don't need any more guns, anyway.


    I shudder at the thought of what my collection would represent in cash money. At least triple what I paid. Not sure if that makes the guns a good investment. Might have earned a bigger return putting the money into something else. But stocks and bonds wouldn't have been this much fun.
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    Too old to live...too young to die...
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've done a lot better on guns over the years then cars, that's for sure!! [:p] One thing about guns, if you do your homework and buy smart, chances are you're not going to lose money selling one.
  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I acquire guns as an investment.
    At least that's what I tell my wife. [^]
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree. Prices are all over the place and many are sky high. I normaly buy used guns but the last new rifle I bought was in 2003, a CZ 527 LUX in 22 Hornet. I paid $400 for it now they go for $700 almost double in 12 years?


    BTW Oakie the CZ will shoot rings around the Ruger all day long[:D] I sold my Ruger 22 Hornet after I shot the little CZ.
    RLTW

  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I agree. Prices are all over the place and many are sky high. I normaly buy used guns but the last new rifle I bought was in 2003, a CZ 527 LUX in 22 Hornet. I paid $400 for it now they go for $700 almost double in 12 years?


    BTW Oakie the CZ will shoot rings around the Ruger all day long[:D] I sold my Ruger 22 Hornet after I shot the little CZ.


    I always wondered if they were good guns. You answered that question. I have been watching one gun, a Winchester model 88 in 243, for years now. The seller wants 2,500. He states it is from the Carmichael collection, whatever that is. Still, it is not worth half that. Today I noticed, it is gone. I think he will have it listed for sale again soon if no one bought it. It's like a fishing expedition, lets see who bites.[:D]
  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    I wish I could go back and tell 21 year old me, "Sell your stocks. Those Swiss K-31s that are selling for $80, those Yugo SKSs that are going for $100, the Turk Mausers at $60? Buy crates of each and sit on 'em. Because in 15 years you will quadruple your money on the Swiss guns, triple your money on the SKSs and Turks. And by the way, that Turk 8mm ammo selling for 5 bucks a bandoleer? If you buy a ton of that, in 15 years it will be selling for $35 a bandoleer. You can get 7 times your money out of it."

    My stocks haven't gone up four times their value in this time, I tell you that much.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester 88 in 308, its one of the older ones with the nice checkering. Even with the crappy trigger it really shoot good. Very accurate and fast on the follow up shot.
    RLTW

  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I tell my wife that my collection is a special kind of 401K.

    If they sell for half of what I paid for them she will have enough cash to get by a couple years.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I have a Winchester 88 in 308, its one of the older ones with the nice checkering. Even with the crappy trigger it really shoot good. Very accurate and fast on the follow up shot.


    I collect them. You have a pre 64 model 88. Yes, most shoot nice groups, but a lot of them have a horrible trigger pull on them. You got lucky. My 308 takes a team of mules to pull. The 243 and 284 are about 8 to 10 pounds.
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Then you have the goofballs asking ridiculous amounts on certain guns. There's a guy on a local facebook page selling a Ruger P97DC .45 for $600 and wondering why it's not selling[:o)] Considering you can find them for $375 most of the time. There's even been a few guys on it trying to sell Raven & Lorcin .25's for $175--guess hoping there's a sucker born every minute.
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Quality guns like Lever action Winchesters, Marlins, and Savages have and always will be good investments.
    Colts, Smiths and other quality hand guns have always done well too.
    by the way I have a 65 Browning 218 Bee standard model serial number 218! I also have a Winchester 65 in 25-20.[;)]
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Quality sells and classics always gain value...

    Crap is crap in all things.[:o)]
  • mmppresmmppres Member Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    show prices are crazy but also lots of nuts shopping there too. been setting up lately at different shows selling parts an such, had a gentleman loose use of the term ask price of used metal Remington butt plate when i said 10.00 he threw it down said i as a crook i laughed so hard i had to walk away from my own table . Seen lot of prices climb since the 1980's to now but remember what was your pay check then too compared to now
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I've done a lot better on guns over the years then cars, that's for sure!! [:p] One thing about guns, if you do your homework and buy smart, chances are you're not going to lose money selling one.


    Have we met? If you gave me, I mean gave it to me free a new unfired Python I would lose $ when I sold it! [B)]
  • Mk 19Mk 19 Member Posts: 8,170
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jonk
    I wish I could go back and tell 21 year old me, "Sell your stocks. Those Swiss K-31s that are selling for $80, those Yugo SKSs that are going for $100, the Turk Mausers at $60? Buy crates of each and sit on 'em. Because in 15 years you will quadruple your money on the Swiss guns, triple your money on the SKSs and Turks. And by the way, that Turk 8mm ammo selling for 5 bucks a bandoleer? If you buy a ton of that, in 15 years it will be selling for $35 a bandoleer. You can get 7 times your money out of it."

    My stocks haven't gone up four times their value in this time, I tell you that much.

    I remember a guy selling Russian SKS's for $49, they were still in the original case and still wrapped in cosmoline. Then there were the M-1 Carbines for $75 and Trapdoor Springfield's for $100 and a FN-49 was only $150. This was only 25 years ago.
  • rob223rob223 Member Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    People have really gotten crazy. Occasionally see people asking $300-400 for a Hi Point or Jennings/Bryco. I guess with the other gun prices, they think there's is worth a mint now. Even when the local stores have them and better guns a lot cheaper. Saw a local sale where someone called a Jennings .380 "A Rare Gun" lol. I don't know what's up with some of them?
    And, I'm not alone in wishing I could buy back a couple guns I've sold in the past, thinking I wanted the money for something else worse. But, I've read of a couple gun writers expressing the same thing.I did have a chance to buy back a Browning HP from a friend I sold it to some years ago. He needed the money and asked if I wanted it back. I ran to the bank as fast as a could before he changed his mind. My oldest son has that one now. And a brother has one of my Colt .45 acp guns I needed to sell along the way. At last it's in good hands there. He really enjoys that gun.
    Seems though that there appears to be less auctions and more just for sale at at least retail listings, going on. They want full value up front.
  • US Military GuyUS Military Guy Member Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, people are crazy.

    It wasn't too long ago that an AR-15 would sell for $2,000 all day - any day.

    I have even heard of some people that will pay upwards of $75 for a brick of .22LR ... all day - any day.

    [:D]
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by US Military Guy
    Yes, people are crazy.

    It wasn't too long ago that an AR-15 would sell for $2,000 all day - any day.

    I have even heard of some people that will pay upwards of $75 for a brick of .22LR ... all day - any day.

    [:D]


    point me to them i have around 20,000 rnds i will let go....those days are gone....1-2 years ago yep, now nope,, be lucky to get 40.00 ....8 or 9 cents a round ...Maybe
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