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LGBQ Whatever In The Military
dav1965
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I was in the military from 1983 until 1992. None of that stuff happened back then. Things were taken care of in house.
In basic we had a person who was having problems adjusting to military life. We were told point blank by our DIs to fix it before mourning. Well he had a blanket party that night and we never saw him again.
Everyone was required to participate. Later on we had a kid jump off of the second story steps and land on his head and die.
The next thing that happened we had a kid fall out for revelee in the morning and he pulled a Gump and kept running. Never did find out where he went.
In the 80s being happy would not have made it unless it was kept from everybody.
In basic we had a person who was having problems adjusting to military life. We were told point blank by our DIs to fix it before mourning. Well he had a blanket party that night and we never saw him again.
Everyone was required to participate. Later on we had a kid jump off of the second story steps and land on his head and die.
The next thing that happened we had a kid fall out for revelee in the morning and he pulled a Gump and kept running. Never did find out where he went.
In the 80s being happy would not have made it unless it was kept from everybody.
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I served in the USN in the early 80s. Aboard one ship there were a couple of guys that were most likely happy. They did their jobs and kept their mouths shut; dont't ask, don't care.
No doubt the way most adults serving at the time dealt with the issue.
Brad Steele
Not sure what type of man would participate in a blanket party. Seems a chicken-crap way to deal with a problem. I can't see myself trusting anyone who play such games.
I served in the USN in the early 80s. Aboard one ship there were a couple of guys that were most likely happy. They did their jobs and kept their mouths shut; dont't ask, don't care.
No doubt the way most adults serving at the time dealt with the issue.
Agreed Don....blanket party's are not how I would treat someone I might have to rely on to watch my six. I'm active duty navy. Yes there are happys...99.9% don't bring it up in anyway...just like I don't bring up my marriage....cause it does not have anything to-do with work.
And while I disagree with that "lifestyle" I have met several happy folks who I trust, and have trusted with my life in situations where it counts.
We all have our sins. I doubt the father looks on adultery or lust much different than being happy.
There was a General in command of the 18 ABC that was never married and though to be happy, big deal.
DADT was fine with me.
My problem is when its in your face. When they become a special class of soldier.
My problem with Trany's is the same thing they are not worth the trouble. There is no added value
Same thing with females in combat, no added value, no need for it.
Back to LBGTQ, I believe it is a mental illness and choice and we should not let mentally ill people in the Military.
In daily work, it doesn't really matter if somebody else is "happy" because I am not. I'm not interested in him, and he isn't in me. Only the work matters.
The mess sergeant for about 2 years at the only mess hall at my permanent(3+ years)duty station lived with his boyfriend. Nobody cared. Including the company commander at the time, or as far as anyone ever knew the colonel who was our post commander or either of the generals stationed there. We ate good. that's what we cared about. And they kept their lifestyle to themselves for the most part, except for the fact that it was an open secret. I should add that it required a top secret clearance to be stationed at that installation. A few guys lost their clearance and got transferred out for drugs, but our E-7 mess sergeant retired from our mess hall.
That all said, we didn't have anyone's particular aberrant behavior pushed on us. That has no place in the military. In the days before "don't ask-don't tell" those types just served. And kept their private lives pretty much private.
I believe it is perversion.
"Blanket Party" is a cowards way of dealing with a problem, in a company of cowards, in my opinion. And I was in the military before the watered down feel-good mixed sex training, don't yell at the recruits to loudly new age military. When drill sergeants had no problem being verbally and occasionally physically abuse toward recruits.
The mess sergeant for about 2 years at the only mess hall at my permanent(3+ years)duty station lived with his boyfriend. Nobody cared. Including the company commander at the time, or as far as anyone ever knew the colonel who was our post commander or either of the generals stationed there. We ate good. that's what we cared about. And they kept their lifestyle to themselves for the most part, except for the fact that it was an open secret. I should add that it required a top secret clearance to be stationed at that installation. A few guys lost their clearance and got transferred out for drugs, but our E-7 mess sergeant retired from our mess hall.
That all said, we didn't have anyone's particular aberrant behavior pushed on us. That has no place in the military. In the days before "don't ask-don't tell" those types just served. And kept their private lives pretty much private.
Where was your Duty Post Alias, if you do not mind my asking.
If you do not want to say, I understand.
Not too many require a TS clearance.
Mine did.
Curious, if you would care to share, I'd appreciate knowing.
I d be happy to tell you where mine was, if you want to know.
Only One I was sure of was a Wm. She was a SSgt and a good one. But when Offered an early out she took it. Said it was so she could go to college. Shame cause as I said she was good. Worked with her at 3 different units. She got every rank Meritorious. To include SSgt
if their hands were not in my pockets, I didn,t give a damn. active duty 1962-1968 with one tour in VN. mr myopic,
I agree.
Like I said DADT was fine with me. I am sure there were a few in some units I was in and none in others.
The problem is when they cause problems.
The thing is when you are a Platoon Sergent or a 1st Sergent or even a CSM you spend about 3/4's of your day dealing with the phukups. The guys that cause problems, the non conformists. You want to be out at training and in the field with your men but you have to deal with idiots, especially in regular line units.
If I was in-charge of an all volunteer army like we have today I would not let married men join or allow soldiers below the rank of E-5 or at least a pro-motable E-4 get married.
No women in Combat units
DADT and if you do your gone.
No Motorcycles until E-5 or 24 years old
All those above caused me numerous problems.
When it come right done to it they are not worth the hassle to the leadership. You are there to manage your men and train them for combat, not fix their issues and be a baby sitter much less worry about some trany getting it shots so it can grow boobs.
Bully somebody to the point of suicide. Congratulations.
84Bravo1, I spent 3 years and 2 months at Arlington Hall Station when it was the HQ of the Army Security Agency. It closed sometime after I left, when they changed the Agency to a command. kidthatsirish asked me about it once and asked me to PM him about it. I tried but GB e-mail doesn't work. Seems his dad was stationed at the antenna farm at Vint Hill same time as I was at Arlington Hall. Doubtful I knew him or he'd remember me, though. When I went there it was usually to drop off equipment for repair or something like that.
This question was asked twice, both on paper and verbally as well.
Anyone who answered yes was shown the door on the spot.
That is the way it was.