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Jury Duty 1 Time And Never Again

dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,540 ✭✭✭
edited August 2015 in General Discussion
I am 49 and i have been to jury duty 1 time. 2 black people raped and killed a white married mother of 2. I was asked questions for 45 minuets and i was sent out of the room 4 or 5 times.

I was kicked off the panel because i was for the death penalty. I dont think the defense liked me looking at the defendant in the eye and saying i could put him to death.

Each person was saying the other murdered the lady. Both men rapped her from the DNA.

This was about 26 years ago and i have never been called since.

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  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    so, what's the point here [?]
  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,540 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know people who have jury duty every 2 years like clock work and they never pick me in over 20 years. I wonder why?
  • IdahoboundIdahobound Member Posts: 20,587 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • TopkickTopkick Member Posts: 4,452 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am called up every 2 years like clockwork.

    I always answer truthfully, and since I'm on so many lists,(churchgoing, motorcycle owning, conservative) I have never been through a trial.

    The ONE TIME is was seated on a jury panel, a long time ago, the dude took one look at us and plead guilty on the spot.

    Last time was 6 weeks ago and it took all day before they sent me home. But the judge, she was cool, joked a bit, and was not bad looking!
    There were a few idiot potential jurors there. One put his feet up on the banister, and kicked back during the questioning. The judge put a stop to that disrespect IMMEDIATELY and made him apologize to all of us, or he would be held in contempt. I can't even imagine doing that in a court of law! Some people!
  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was called every two years, then got picked bout 15yrs ago for a B+E case. Only called about every four now.
    Retired now so can serve if needed.
  • tapwatertapwater Member Posts: 10,335 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ..I was called for a federal case in some type of firearms case. Driving to Chicago from way out here was really a hardship, as I was in the grain business and it was harvest season. What they paid didn't even cover parking.

    ..I filled out a written questionnaire for the county and I guess they didn't like the answers. They don't ever call me. Being retired, I wouldn't mind sitting on a jury but not if it drags out for weeks or months. It is a duty, living in a free country.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been on courts-martial and Admin Boards and called for jury duty three times. Never been selected for a civilian jury.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I received a Jury Questionaire last week. I get to check the exempt box! [:D] Wife got one a few days later, she doesn't get to check the exempt box, though she'll never get to sit on a jury. She'll just waste a few hours waiting and will then be excused once they find out she's married to a cop.

    Jury trials are fairly rare, a high percentage plead guilty or work out plea deals in advance. Threat of a jury trial is effective because most defense attorneys know that a jury will give a harsher sentence than the judge. These days, atleast in this area the Prosecutors don't bring cases into court that aren't practically a slam dunk, and most criminal cases are simple. Is not like you see Perry Mason cases very often, unlike the media would lead you to believe.
  • EhlerDaveEhlerDave Member Posts: 5,158 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am 49 and have been called up one time. It happens.
    Just smile and say nothing, let them guess how much you know.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been living here for the 18 years since I retired from the Army.

    I got a notice last year, filled it out, sent it in and got another note two weeks later..... "We'll call you if we need you."

    I have not heard from them since.
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The last one I sat on was for a 67 year old man that was accused of workers comp fraud. Five days of pure hell all for only 6k worth of non fraud. We on the jury felt sorry for the guy because the prosecutor was a complete *.

    On another note, some lady during the selection phase was asked what she did for a living, she said she was a physic card reader. They didn't want her.

    FYI my new side business: M88 Physic Card Reading.com
  • tapwatertapwater Member Posts: 10,335 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by m88.358win

    The last one I sat on was for a 67 year old man that was accused of workers comp fraud. Five days of pure hell all for only 6k worth of non fraud. We on the jury felt sorry for the guy because the prosecutor was a complete *.

    On another note, some lady during the selection phase was asked what she did for a living, she said she was a physic card reader. They didn't want her.

    FYI my new side business: M88 Physic Card Reading.com




    ..Reminds me of my Pops. He was a farmer and it was harvest season. During selection, Dad said: "Whatever he did, he's guilty as all hell." They never called him back...[:D]
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've lost track of how many times I've been called. They used to keep you for 10 days or one trial so I have also lost track of how many times I have been kicked off a jury.
    Since I was working for the Post Office I wanted to be on the juries.
    The one I really wanted was for five counts of murder, rape & so on.
    They said that trial could last as much as five months. I was passed over so many times I thought for sure I was in until I finally got kicked off. I've never been on a jury where they had so many challenges but it was a death penalty case. (He got four death sentences & died of natural causes a few years later.) One juror was on my postal route & gave me a lot of the details after the trial was over.
    I have been on two civil trials, one Federal trial, three criminal trials plus one murder trial. Since I have retired & don't want any more trials I can't get kicked off.
    The next time I get asked if I can be "fair" I will truthfully say, No, I am having a hard time staying awake that early in the morning & I can't be fair to either side if I am sleeping.
  • jptatumjptatum Member Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been called a number of times but only served once; however the defendant didn't show up and the judge issued a bench warrant for his arrest.
    The last time I was put in the jury pool was for a federal grand jury but they did not call me.
    The first time they called me was for a murder trial but I was not selected, I'm sure because I knew the prosecutor.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I get called every 5 or 6 years it seems. The one time I got seated on a jury it was for the first car jacking ever in Portland.

    The little crap stain sat there and gave us all the tough homey stink eye the whole time. We also got to have his mother, girlfriend, GF's mother, etc. all sit in the witness box and lie through their teeth. We knew they were lying, they knew we knew, and they just played Screw-You-Whitey-What-You-Gonna-Do-About-It?

    What we did was find him guilty on all counts, and the judge sentenced him to 37 years total, with the sentences to run consecutively. When his attorney explained to him what they meant, he looked over at us with this funny angry look, and we all waved at him. He is still in the pen 22 years later.

    He got $36 in the two robberies. But he used a gun to commit them. Bad idea.
  • woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 23,478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Called Once in 62 + years
    They Canceled me the Night before I had to Show Settled Out of Court
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,457 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got tagged once, and it was for week I had booked and paid for a cruise to Alaska. They exempted me.

    Haven't been notified since, but I'd be happy to do it as my civic responsibility.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • MFIMFI Member Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Im 50 ..went twice.. Thought it was quite interesting..
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    slow day huh dav1965

    Im 64 and been called once...told them i had to work to pay bills...

    that was 30 years ago,,,,,,thats all..no more since
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A lot of welfare people took my place..
  • Cornflk1Cornflk1 Member Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Was on jury for murder trial when I was 28 ( about 34 years ago). A drug deal gone bad where an 18 year old girl had her face taken off by a shotgun. The guy was found guilty, but we were a hung jury on the death penality. He died in prison anyway (small loss).

    Have been selected couple of times, but there always settled out of court.

    Don't really mind doing my civic duty.
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Been called a few times...

    There must be a better way![:)]
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I received a Jury Questionaire last week. I get to check the exempt box! [:D] Wife got one a few days later, she doesn't get to check the exempt box, though she'll never get to sit on a jury. She'll just waste a few hours waiting and will then be excused once they find out she's married to a cop.

    Jury trials are fairly rare, a high percentage plead guilty or work out plea deals in advance. Threat of a jury trial is effective because most defense attorneys know that a jury will give a harsher sentence than the judge. These days, atleast in this area the Prosecutors don't bring cases into court that aren't practically a slam dunk, and most criminal cases are simple. Is not like you see Perry Mason cases very often, unlike the media would lead you to believe.


    I get called up about every two years and always go. As I marked in Red, I think every tax payer, regardless of your employment, should have to serve. It is your civic duty and a privilege to serve. I also think that you are a fair and open minded person, and would do justice to anyone being tried. If you are not open minded, then ignore this remark. I would rather have someone that actually knows the law somewhat, sitting on a jury, then some knucklehead that is sleeping. This is a compliment towards you and most law enforcement officers.


    When Chris had his trial, We had two black guys and two young white guys, that actually slept through most of the trial. Our lawyer pointed this out to the judge and he said he always has a few that do this and shrugged it off.[:(!][:(!][:(!]

    Having said all this, do I trust the judicial system? HELL NO.Oakie
  • hotshoothotshoot Member Posts: 4,227
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dav1965
    I know people who have jury duty every 2 years like clock work and they never pick me in over 20 years. I wonder why?


    You must be on the ''do not mail list''
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,457 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A snarky answer would be that those who get picked often are mature, level-headed, intelligent people. Whereas those who don't...
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As a general rule, if you appear intelligent or you have a friend or family member who is in law enforcement (FBI, cop, etc.), defense attorneys will bump you.
    They know you'll see through their BS.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I showed up for Grand Jury Duty this past Tuesday. I was not seated because enough folks ahead of me in the alphabet were able to be seated.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,974 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I get the notice in the mail like clock work (same year as my smog notice). I think every 8 or 10 years I have to drive out to the court house and sit for the cons to plea out or take the deal. Total waste of time.

    Never got past the coral.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A guy who worked for me lived in Baltimore City. He got called up for grand jury duty. They figured out real fast that he was smart; he was named foreman his first day. He served all day, every week day, FOR TWO YEARS!

    Neal
  • pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,509 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have served several times ,last one about 16 years ago .Here they pull names from the tax register and the voting rolls .Wife has never been picked and she is 50.Did not mind serving as I worked for the state and got paid my regular salary ,just had to turn over the jury pay to them .I do believe it is part of our obligation as a citizen to serve when called .
    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Called a couple of times. First time I only had to call each evening to find out if I had to show next morning. Never had to.
    Second time the defense grilled me for about 20 minutes while the judge rolled his eyes. They knew I was an LEO, and this attorney was just using up time. He never would have seated me. And he didn't.
    Last time was a year ago. My wife and I were both called for the same week. Couldn't believe it. After my doctor sent the clerk a letter, I was given a permanent release from any jury duty, due to health conditions. My wife went on but never was seated. Only had to be there a couple days.
    Our court system is ridiculously slow and plodding, it's a wonder anything ever gets done. I guess it's just the way it is with a system that is the result of what freedoms we have left. But it seems so slanted to the suspects and against victims it confounds those who have to work in the system.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have no intention of serving on a kansas jury after the failure of the justice system to properly handle several violent rapings and killings...bleeding heart jurors that have NEVER been a victim of anything and point scoring lawyers before idiot judges that favor perps have peaked my disgust at the system..
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    I was selected for jury duty late last winter. First time for me. An interesting experience at minimum.

    As I was sitting in the "pool" I noticed a "gentleman" (for the lack of a better term) walking down the center aisle. A rather large unkempt man. I tagged him as an interesting character at minimum and within a few minutes found that he was the defendant. Charges against him were child porn and general sexual misconduct via his use of the Internet and heaven knows what else.

    When called to the "box" to answer questions put forth by the judge I was totally honest. My entire career has been in the computer and communications industry. I know how the Internet works and I had already made up my mind about this dirtbag even before I knew he was the defendant. At this stage of life I'm a fair judge of character.

    Once the judge was informed about my career he asked how many years I'd been involved in IT. When I answered (49 years) he laughed and commented that I was a dinosaur. He then asked if I could be objective about the defendant. I shared with him that I could not and was immediately dismissed.

    Fair enough, I guess. But I worry about the jury members selected. Fair and open-minded is one thing. Ignorant is another. It would seem that the ignorant were prime choices. If there was a saving grace it was that the lawyer for the defendant was a total waste of air and a birdbrain to boot.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,303 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was to show up once the night before the trial , I received a phone call it was settled and I was not needed .


    my FIL ( now deceased ) told me he was called one time in the early 1960's , he was ask questions about his feelings , he told them if the fellows hair is not too long or if there not black he could be impartial ,, he never got called again .
  • wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I was 18 I was arrested for Burglary.

    I was walking home from the Bowling alley that I used to hangout in and saw a head pop up from a window inside a boat shop that was closed for the night. I stopped and started watching and it turned out that it was two kids that I knew from the Bowling Ally.

    I started throwing small pebbles at the window from across the street just to mess with them.

    Two younger girls were walking down the street, (I had went to School with both of their brothers) and they stopped and asked what I was doing?About that time both Kids popped their heads up, the girls saw them and walked away.

    Later on in the evening, the Police showed up at my door and arrested me for Burglary! I pled not guilty and it went to trial. With both girls testimony I thought for sure that I was going to be locked up for 3 years but I had a Jury that seen through their lies. They found me Not Guilty in a matter of minutes after leaving to debate!

    I think that if I would have gotten a half assed Jury, they would have just found me guilty.

    The time that I sat as a Juror, I tried to be * fair and Impartial as I could, but that Guilty SOB was just there to waste everyone's time and we all knew it!
    There is no such thing as Liberal Men, only Liberal Women with Penises.'
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