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Hmmm... Acquited on all counts....
CaptFun
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http://www.tribuneledgernews.com/ledger/murder-suspect-acquitted-on-all-counts/article_28efa0c4-2d2b-11e7-887f-ffae05fc76e3.html
You have to read the whole thing....
I drove by there probably 5 minutes after the shooting. There were cops everywhere and the ambulance was just behind me.
You have to read the whole thing....
I drove by there probably 5 minutes after the shooting. There were cops everywhere and the ambulance was just behind me.
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Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Alex Walkine
Interesting story. Interesting outcome.
The guys account of the scenario doesn't have any hugely-obvious holes in it, IMO.
I have no idea about the status of race relations in Kennesaw, but I've seen a lot of animosity between hispanics and black folks here in Illnoise.
well their you go, justified in some eyes
but yet the 13% goes crazy if a cop shoots an unarmed man, hell just look at the travon martin case
Don't really know what to say. It's a "He said" situation. I'm guessing there are no witnesses at all besides the two daughters?
The guys account of the scenario doesn't have any hugely-obvious holes in it, IMO.
I have no idea about the status of race relations in Kennesaw, but I've seen a lot of animosity between hispanics and black folks here in Illnoise.
The mechanics location is in Woodstock at Bells Ferry and 92. It is an odd place where independant mechanics can rent a stall in this building. It always seems to be busy. The trial would have been up in Canton, but in general this county is very conservative. There is a rather large population of Hispanics that work in the poultry industry in the northern part of the county and there used the be a HUGE mexican trailer park across the street from the site of the shooting but it was torn down about 5 years ago, there are two more large ones about a mile north of there. (on the plus side, landscapers are very affordable here!) I'm not sure where the shooter lived, but I agree there is not a lot of shared love between those 2 communities.
I would have voted to convict him.
My standard rule of thumb is you lay hands on me, all bets are off and I will kill you.
Cowards don't get a pass against an unarmed man if he hasn't touch them
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
Black beats Hispanic.
Anyone that pulls and points a 45 at me will make me rethink just how mad I am at the time.
this
The black guy had to have been a real a-hole to get kicked out of the repair shop.
But then, did the mechanic really call him "Boy" and threaten to beat his *? Who knows.
This is the reason why I am polite to strangers.
I will be driving the big truck in traffic, a car cuts ME off, then he gets mad at me and is flipping me the bird.
I don't shake my fist, I don't shoot the bird back. Just ignore the guy, pretend everything is fine.
You just don't know if somebody is a little nutty, and if they have a gun.
I would like to know the racial make up of the Jury[;)]
I have to believe that if some guy is threatening me and all I have on me is my gun, and when presented if THAT doesn't diffuse the situation, I'm going to use it and hope for the same verdict as here. I'm not going to wait til it comes to blows. That's how you end up dead.
Conversely, if a guy pulls a gun on me during an argument and all I have is a rag in my hand, I'm probably going to stop in my tracks.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
If you ask me, the prosecution went after too much. It seems there was possibly unnecessary use of force, based solely on what I read of course, and little more to go after.
I have to believe that if some guy is threatening me and all I have on me is my gun, and when presented if THAT doesn't diffuse the situation, I'm going to use it and hope for the same verdict as here. I'm not going to wait til it comes to blows. That's how you end up dead.
Conversely, if a guy pulls a gun on me during an argument and all I have is a rag in my hand, I'm probably going to stop in my tracks.
But are you going to leave when a business owner ask you to leave or remain continuing to agitate/argue ? The owner never laid hands on him, only had a rag in his hands.......I can't find any justification in the shooting.
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
If you ask me, the prosecution went after too much. It seems there was possibly unnecessary use of force, based solely on what I read of course, and little more to go after.
I have to believe that if some guy is threatening me and all I have on me is my gun, and when presented if THAT doesn't diffuse the situation, I'm going to use it and hope for the same verdict as here. I'm not going to wait til it comes to blows. That's how you end up dead.
Conversely, if a guy pulls a gun on me during an argument and all I have is a rag in my hand, I'm probably going to stop in my tracks.
But are you going to leave when a business owner ask you to leave or remain continuing to agitate/argue ? The owner never laid hands on him, only had a rag in his hands.......I can't find any justification in the shooting.
I'm going to leave, just like it appears this guy was trying to do. Again, all I have to go on here is what is in the linked article and the knowledge of the decision of the jury.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
http://www.tribuneledgernews.com/local_news/florida-man-charged-in-september-shooting-denied-bond/article_faf789c0-23b9-5a27-8de0-e406fa8cd55d.html
so he had been involved in another shooting...hmmmmm
http://www.tribuneledgernews.com/local_news/florida-man-charged-in-september-shooting-denied-bond/article_faf789c0-23b9-5a27-8de0-e406fa8cd55d.html
only advertisements.. on that link
here it is
Florida man charged in September shooting denied bond
A judge ruled last week that a Florida man charged with killing another man outside an Acworth auto repair shop remain in jail.
Following a several-hour hearing on a motion for bond Dec. 2, Cherokee County Superior Court Judge Ellen McElyea ordered that 28-year-old Alexander Walkine remain in custody without bond ? a move that came after pleas from his family and longtime friends that he be released.
?The evidence is largely that most of his family members are in Florida and that he travels back and forth between Georgia and Florida. Because of that, the court cannot find evidence that he doesn?t pose a threat to flee,? McElyea said.
Walkine, of Tampa, Fla., was charged with murder on Sept. 16 after shooting 43-year-old Doug Eriquezzo during an argument at an automotive repair shop located at 5733 Bells Ferry Road, according to the Cherokee Sheriff?s Office.
He also was charged with possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony, two counts of cruelty to children in the third degree, aggravated battery and aggravated assault, records show.
Walkine went to the business, which rents out bays to individual mechanics, in order to have the air conditioning checked on his girlfriend?s BMW, according to the lead detective on the case.
?When he arrived, there was some disagreement over the vehicle,? Detective Carolyn Moraniec said in court. ?Doug said he wasn?t going to work on the vehicle and began walking across the parking lot. Doug held up his cell phone and the defendant asked if he was going to call 911.?
The detective said in court that three other mechanics overhead the argument, and one of those witnesses told the detective that he heard the victim asking Walkine to leave.
?The defendant went to the vehicle and Doug followed, telling him to leave,? Moraniec said.
According to information presented in court, another witness told the detective that he heard the defendant tell the victim that he ?had something for him? and then turned around and shot two times.
When the Cherokee Sheriff?s Office responded to the call about 5 p.m., authorities said they located the victim lying the parking lot of the business with two gunshot wounds. Information presented in court indicated that he was shot in the chest and hip.
Walkine was found standing next to the BMW, and, according to reports, two small children were inside the car.
Atlanta-based attorney Brian Steel, who is representing Walkine in the criminal case, said the shooting was in self-defense and that his client was walking to his car when the incident occurred. He said the victim was following his client and cursing at him.
?Mr. Walkine produced a gun and told him to get back,? he said, adding that the two were within arm?s reach of one another.
Steel also argued that the testimony presented in court last week differed from information presented at a preliminary hearing.
?Respectfully, I have not heard the actual tape. The way I heard the detective testify today was in complete contrast to what was said in the preliminary hearing. I think that is a misrepresentation of the facts,? he said.
The defendant?s attorney stated that his client should be released on bail with restricted conditions. Three family members, including his father, brother and aunt, as well as two friends testified that they would allow the defendant to stay with them and would also put up property to back the bond.
The state pushed for the denial, stating that the defendant was a flight risk and posed a threat to the community.
?When you look at this case, the fear of the witnesses and the past actions of the defendant, the state is asking that you deny bond,? Deputy Chief Assistant District Attorney Holly Varner said.
Walkine was involved in a shooting incident in Florida in the summer of 2014, information presented in court revealed. No charges were filed in the case.
?The prosecution wants the court to say that because there was a shooting in Florida and because he shot an unarmed man here, he is a danger to the community,? Steel said. ?The problem with that is that it presumes Mr. Walkine is guilty. If he were presumed innocent, he would pose no threat. There is no evidence that he poses a risk of intimidating witnesses.?
The assistant district attorney said the evidence is that the defendant has been involved in two shootings in a year-and-a-half, claiming self-defense in both.
The judge, when making her order, said she took the shooting incident in Florida into consideration.
A man kills a un-armed business owner on business property during a argument and he's found innocent ???? As a business owner I've had a few un-armed arguments with people at my business in the past but never one that justified me being shot down. I don't understand the justification on this one......at all.
Not really, he was found NOT GUILTY there is a HUGE difference. The prosecution did not prove, beyond a reasonable doubt to 12 people, the accused was guilty of the charges against him.
When you are the only one to tell the story. There is only one story.
The victor writes history