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savage170
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http://www.businessinsider.com/us-immigration-agents-are-loading-up-on-as-many-as-450-million-new-rounds-of-ammo-2012-3
The Department Of Homeland Security Is Buying 450 Million New Bullets
US Immigration and Customs Enforcement
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office is getting an "indefinite delivery" of an "indefinite quantity" of .40 caliber bullets from defense contractor ATK.
U.S. agents will receive a maximum of 450 million rounds over five years, according to a press release on the deal.
The high performance HST bullets are designed for law enforcement and ATK says they offer "optimum penetration for terminal performance."
This refers to the the bullet's hollow-point tip that passes through barriers without getting warped out of shape.
We've also learned that the Department has an open bid for a stockpile of rifle ammo. Listed on the federal business opportunities network, they're looking for up to 175 million rounds of .233 caliber ammo to be exact. The 223 is almost exactly the same round used by NATO forces, the 5.56 x 45mm.
The deadline for earlier this month was extended because the right contractor just hadn't come along.
Looks like the Department of Homeland Security means business.
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-immigration-agents-are-loading-up-on-as-many-as-450-million-new-rounds-of-ammo-2012-3
The Department Of Homeland Security Is Buying 450 Million New Bullets
US Immigration and Customs Enforcement
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office is getting an "indefinite delivery" of an "indefinite quantity" of .40 caliber bullets from defense contractor ATK.
U.S. agents will receive a maximum of 450 million rounds over five years, according to a press release on the deal.
The high performance HST bullets are designed for law enforcement and ATK says they offer "optimum penetration for terminal performance."
This refers to the the bullet's hollow-point tip that passes through barriers without getting warped out of shape.
We've also learned that the Department has an open bid for a stockpile of rifle ammo. Listed on the federal business opportunities network, they're looking for up to 175 million rounds of .233 caliber ammo to be exact. The 223 is almost exactly the same round used by NATO forces, the 5.56 x 45mm.
The deadline for earlier this month was extended because the right contractor just hadn't come along.
Looks like the Department of Homeland Security means business.
Comments
What voodoo is this? Am I missing something?
Is it possible that this reporter is not a ballistician?
Also, since they're buying 450 million bullets, how many pounds of powder does that require? What type? Are they saving their brass? Where are they getting primers? Are they using illegal Mexican labor to run their RL550s?
Enquiring minds want to know.
How, in the bloody hell, is a handgun bullet with a "hollow tip" supposed to "pass through a barrier" without getting "warped out of shape"?
What voodoo is this? Am I missing something?
Is it possible that this reporter is not a ballistician?
Also, since they're buying 450 million bullets, how many pounds of powder does that require? What type? Are they saving their brass? Where are they getting primers? Are they using illegal Mexican labor to run their RL550s?
Enquiring minds want to know.
40 S&W 180 gr. Ranger Bonded
Product Symbol: RA40B
Description:
Rangerr Bonded handgun ammunition was specifically created to deliver maximum penetration through the toughest of barriers. This effectiveness is made possible thanks to the Winchester proprietary core/jacket bonding process-and is enhanced with a special hollow point cavity that acts in unison to control expansion, leading to maximum weight retention and deep penetration through hard and abrasive barriers including auto glass. Selected by federal law enforcement agencies for their .40 and 9mm caliber service rounds, the Ranger Bonded gives you the penetration to handle the most serious of threats.
SUPERIOR PENETRATION
IDEAL FOR AUTO GLASS OR OTHER ABRASIVE BARRIERS
PERMANENT CORE/JACKET BOND WITH SPECIAL HOLLOW POINT CAVITY
OUTSTANDING ACCURACY
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
Before Obama's next 4 year term is over some of us will probably find out who they are for.
Sad but true.
Tacticalr HSTr
The next generation in high performance duty ammunition. HSTr offers consistent expansion and optimum penetration for terminal performance. A specially designed hollow-point tip won't plug while passing through a variety of barriers and this bullet holds its jacket in the toughest conditions. HST is engineered to provide 100% weight retention through most barriers and impressive expansion.
There is one school of thought they had money left over in the budget and had to use to justify all the money they want for next year's budget.
It's too early to think. Insert pithy comment here.
quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
quote:Originally posted by 9 on the floor
How, in the bloody hell, is a handgun bullet with a "hollow tip" supposed to "pass through a barrier" without getting "warped out of shape"?
What voodoo is this? Am I missing something?
Is it possible that this reporter is not a ballistician?
Also, since they're buying 450 million bullets, how many pounds of powder does that require? What type? Are they saving their brass? Where are they getting primers? Are they using illegal Mexican labor to run their RL550s?
Enquiring minds want to know.
40 S&W 180 gr. Ranger Bonded
Product Symbol: RA40B
Description:
Rangerr Bonded handgun ammunition was specifically created to deliver maximum penetration through the toughest of barriers. This effectiveness is made possible thanks to the Winchester proprietary core/jacket bonding process-and is enhanced with a special hollow point cavity that acts in unison to control expansion, leading to maximum weight retention and deep penetration through hard and abrasive barriers including auto glass. Selected by federal law enforcement agencies for their .40 and 9mm caliber service rounds, the Ranger Bonded gives you the penetration to handle the most serious of threats.
SUPERIOR PENETRATION
IDEAL FOR AUTO GLASS OR OTHER ABRASIVE BARRIERS
PERMANENT CORE/JACKET BOND WITH SPECIAL HOLLOW POINT CAVITY
OUTSTANDING ACCURACY
Almost sounds like enough for a war, or something.[:0]
How, in the bloody hell, is a handgun bullet with a "hollow tip" supposed to "pass through a barrier" without getting "warped out of shape"?
What voodoo is this? Am I missing something?
Is it possible that this reporter is not a ballistician?
Also, since they're buying 450 million bullets, how many pounds of powder does that require? What type? Are they saving their brass? Where are they getting primers? Are they using illegal Mexican labor to run their RL550s?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Been done. Check Geco's BAT bullet. I ordered some in the 90's. On soft targets, they act like hollow points and will put a 6mm hole in tires. On hard targets, they act like AP.
Also, since they're buying 450 million bullets, how many pounds of powder does that require? What type? Are they saving their brass? Where are they getting primers? Are they using illegal Mexican labor to run their RL550s?
Note that this is a news reporter. I believe that when he/she used the term "bullets" it was meant to mean "cartridges." I could be wrong, but in reading the whole article the context appears to point to the loaded cartridges and not just the "bullet."
Johnny
What kind of protective vest does one need to defeat these rounds? What should we call them? Militia Killer Bullets?
Get you a Level IIIA and you'll be good until the head shot [:p]